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  What was the weirdest thing ever said to you as a JW?

  by falseprophet in

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  i was about 8-10 years old and twice i had people tell me that i should not pioneer but to go to bethel because i "was governing body material".. one was a co and another a do.. i didn't even believe in god, never have so that makes it weird!.

  what wierd things were told?.

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  What was the weirdest thing ever said to you as a JW?

  by falseprophet in

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  i was about 8-10 years old and twice i had people tell me that i should not pioneer but to go to bethel because i "was governing body material".. one was a co and another a do.. i didn't even believe in god, never have so that makes it weird!.

  what wierd things were told?.

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  One of the sisters and husband at our cong was invited to a bbq by their study, 'Come round have a munch and I will play guitar for you" So they went round had a great lunch and after he put on a range of records and proceeded to play AIR GUITAR for over an hour I think they listed that time as feild service.

  Another mate of mine who I still see and love to bits but was always a bit naughty said to me one day "Jehovahs too busy to see all our cockups, he's only worried about the big stuff"
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  Young and angry

  by d in

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  since i left the jw's in 2008. i have since struggled with feelings of anger at people in power and religous leaders.i feel that in this world you just can not trust anybody.i have given up trying to see the good in people and i just feel deattached from people..

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  So true OGD, I especially agree with the last 2 paragraphs no one hes the right to make us feel unworthy yet many try to.

  d- have some patience know you are not alone, we all feel ripped off (by the looks of what I have read) after leaving the watchtower err Jehovahs Witnesses, its normal to be weary after that, but you left for a reason like so many others- a reason good enough to make you walk away from their teachings and beliefs, so start chalking up a few of your own ideas in regard to life, read, investigate and discuss with open-minded people.

  Not all people are going to crap on you,some may yesbut try to remember what you have been taught, in regard to the JW beliefs has come from a very limited almost tunnel visioned view of the world and its people it does not have to define you though. Try to kick the anger to the curb or at least allow it minimal 'stage presence daily' its a shitty soul sucking emotion to carry and is capable of making us detach, I know I have been there. I watched this DVD on Louise Hay not long ago 'You can heal your life' sounds brokenarse I know but the main point was mind over matter, changing your mindset, thinking positive and re-affirming those positive thoughts on a daily basis. Give it a try.

  As far as people in power go theres bugger all people that can handle those roles, they nearly always lose it, get puffed up with pride,ego's stroked or even got to their postion through lies/dodgy deals, but just occasionally we find a real gem that inspires the multitudes, practices what they preach and is concerned for the greater good, now thats the shit that leaves me with goosebumps.

  Don't give up I do believe its our right after walking away from that organisation to make ourselves fully functioning, interactive, and at peace with ourselves as human beings.

  Have a great day x
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  What it takes to become an atheist.

  by dontplaceliterature in

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  i was pondering this today during lunch, and to me it seems that it comes down to whether or not you can accept that you will one day be permanantly gone and anyone you have lost in death will never be alive again.

  once a person becomes comfortable with these two ideas, there isn't really any incentive to believe.

  maybe it's an over simplification, but it seems to me that this is the heart of the matter.

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  Thanks Interested One I have heard of the God Delusion and I think I will give it crack.

  I'm glad others have spoken out to 'hearing stuff' to be honest it makes me feel less like a freak,and yes I have wondered about the ol intuition, it just felt like being a bit presumptuos/ unthankful to believe it may just be me and not Jah.

  One day I will put my story on a thread, its still a little raw for me so I'll give it some time.

  Sorry DPL getting off topic a bit
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  What it takes to become an atheist.

  by dontplaceliterature in

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  i was pondering this today during lunch, and to me it seems that it comes down to whether or not you can accept that you will one day be permanantly gone and anyone you have lost in death will never be alive again.

  once a person becomes comfortable with these two ideas, there isn't really any incentive to believe.

  maybe it's an over simplification, but it seems to me that this is the heart of the matter.

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  Please do.

  Have a good one!
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  What it takes to become an atheist.

  by dontplaceliterature in

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  i was pondering this today during lunch, and to me it seems that it comes down to whether or not you can accept that you will one day be permanantly gone and anyone you have lost in death will never be alive again.

  once a person becomes comfortable with these two ideas, there isn't really any incentive to believe.

  maybe it's an over simplification, but it seems to me that this is the heart of the matter.

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  Thanks Tammy faith is a strange thing, it cannot be seen but is undeniably felt.

  Thanks Sizemilk, its funny because it was reading yours and coftys comments especially that made me want to sign up on JWN about 2 months ago now. The way you both expressed your viewwith intelligence but not haughtyness- I found very appealing.

  Do you really think its self delusion? sorry to ask but the obligatoryguilt to some higher power can weigh me down somedays, if you have any suggested reading let me know please as I am still pretty new at all this......

  All this being --- thinking for myself
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  What it takes to become an atheist.

  by dontplaceliterature in

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  i was pondering this today during lunch, and to me it seems that it comes down to whether or not you can accept that you will one day be permanantly gone and anyone you have lost in death will never be alive again.

  once a person becomes comfortable with these two ideas, there isn't really any incentive to believe.

  maybe it's an over simplification, but it seems to me that this is the heart of the matter.

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  Not all people go Gods way for the prizes. I never wanted anything except to feel like he -God was ok with me, I had spent so much of my life wishing I was never born, and never really feeling part of anything or anyone when I did learn in regard to Jehovah his ways I felt so ungrateful not wanting this paradise earth, live forever etc etc, I just felt it was the right thing to do, and I did truly believe it, I was one of thoses glazed over robots that was 100% SURE it was real.

  I am really trying to work out what I believe now, the thought of totally not believing makes me feel like I have let go of something indescribably satisfying, maybe it was the peace in the words read and digested, maybe it was feeling like Jah actually got me, and knew me, and still liked me just for me. To me the 'atheist' term always conjured up pity or they were missing something- Poor Dears! but now I guess I am wondering where this new found 'awakening' about it all will lead me, as the gaps are getting harder to fill in.

  Tammy I do get what you mean in regard to faith I have had things happen to me -saved from a burning house, saved from a car accident, and also a schizophrenic flatmate, all by the same calm male voice- and no I was not off my face on drugs at any of thoses times.

  This is why its so hard for me to completely turn my back on the belief of Jah, because it was not learnt in some book, or brought up with it, it personally happened to me, and even though elders have said to me Jehovah does not speak to people, well that voice saved my ass a few times. I dunno somedays it really does my head in, and yes now I can shoot holes in the JW teachings and would never set foot in a k hall again, I just don't know what to do with these very real personal experiences.

  Sorry to ramble, I too have wondered what it would take to become an atheist.
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  Family pic taken Friday

  by JeffT in

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  monika (future daughter in law, also just graduated from uw) wife debbie, son alex, and some old dude who claims to be me.

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  Congratulations
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  How many here smoke?

  by cantleave in

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  i don't and am very unlikely to after seeing my father dying of a smoking related lung disease (even though i would like to try a high quality cigar).. but i am curious to see how many people take up smoking after leaving the org.. .

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  Its Tuesday the 12th here in Oz, and for me its 1 year today smoke free,

  well tabacco free anyway!
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  I have to brag about my kid

  by JeffT in

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  alex, our youngest graduated cum laude from the university of washington today with a bachelor's in environmental science and a minor in quantitative analysis.

  he has a job in his field.

  he and his fiance, who also graduated today (biology) are getting married july 1. she's starting a phd program at berkeley in august, so they're moving.

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  good on them, and good on you!