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  HELPING TEENS IN TROUBLE ---WATCHTOWER STYLE COPYRIGHT VIOLATIONS

  by LDH in

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  http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2005/4/8/article_01.htm

  so i thought you would enjoy this series of articles, which tells us how evil and wicked teens are, and what exactly we can do to help them.. you might notice that the article mentions "author scott walker" a number of times.

  who, you ask, is scott walker that his views on teens should be so credible?

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  James Free said:
  
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  Sorry guys, I hate the WT as much as you do, but you just don't understand copyright law.
  
  Quotes was illegal because it was just quotes. Canadian, and US too for that matter, says a work may be quoted if part of a critical analysis. This means if Quotes had made appropriate comments between each quote it would have been legal. The WT may be deceptive in its use of quotations, but it is not double standards, it is copyright law, and that's a fact.
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  James, we could get into discussion about the "implied commentary" included with the highlighting and categorization of my site; we could talk about cited vs. non-cited fair use, etc. We could talk about how this case pushed into very new and exciting interpretation of CDN IP law, which is not clearly resolved one way or the other. However, that would just be me relating 2nd hand what some well respected IP lawyers advised me, arguing against your opinion.
  
  Now, unless you are an IP lawyer or IP legal scholar, your opinion is just that -- your (lay) opinion.
  
  Do you really think their suit would have not been launched, if I interspersed their quotes with the occasional critical sentence? I think not. But that is just my opinion.
  
  Cheers,
  
  ~Q
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  HELPING TEENS IN TROUBLE ---WATCHTOWER STYLE COPYRIGHT VIOLATIONS

  by LDH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2005/4/8/article_01.htm

  so i thought you would enjoy this series of articles, which tells us how evil and wicked teens are, and what exactly we can do to help them.. you might notice that the article mentions "author scott walker" a number of times.

  who, you ask, is scott walker that his views on teens should be so credible?

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  LDH asked:
  
  "So why was Quotes sued by the WT for citing the WT's own words?"
  
  Answer: because they have two sets of standards: one for them (which is totally unrestrictive) and a different one for everyone else. Hey! Watchtower Legal Settlement Compliance Reporting Officers who are reading this thread: Isn't there an Old Testament scripture about having two sets of scales is a sin and detestable to god?
  
  Interesting aside: my lovely wife was relating to me a telephone conversation she had with my Mom while I was at work this week. Among other things, my mother said, quite strongly, "[Quotes] broke the law! That website broke the law" I can't wait until the next time I'm talking to Mom, so I can get her to explain how, if that is true, Watchtower is breaking the law in pretty much every issue (with Mr. Scott Walker being just one of thousands of examples). Then I sit back and watch the mental gears grind and the smoke escape from Mom's ears. I love my Mom, but this is for her own good.
  
  ~Q
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  A JW wants to know where we go when we leave the society

  by Madame Quixote in

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  i told him about few things we do.

  maybe some of you could add to this at: .

  http://www.jamaat.net/jforum/viewtopic.php?p=4682#4682 .

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  In that other thread, Adonijah said:
  
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  Sunspot, you mentioned that Jehovah's Witness are leaving in droves, may I ask where they are going please ?
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  Notice how deftly s/he changes the topic; prior to this the thread was going in a completely different direction.
  
  Nice work, Adonijah.
  
  ~Q
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  Need some JW literature? Try this... :)

  by GoingGoingGone in

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  i got an email from a friend today describing some strange happenings at the meeting: .

  " my wife was in the back room with the kids today and there was this guy who my wife later described as a little "scary looking" for some reason and was carrying an empty "bowling bag" (whatever that is.

  anyway, this guy starts grabbing old literature from the library and putting it in his bag.

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  She mentioned that some people sometimes put the literature on the internet, and they go and twist around what it says.
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  Gee, if only we had a collection of non-distorted, context-preserved WTS literature quotes, available on the internet to all who asked, in order to get past these "twist around what it says" allegations. Now that sounds like a great idea... oh, never mind.
  
  ~Q
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  'Knocking' Review from East Lansing Film Festival

  by Jourles in

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  sorry folks.

  you're gonna have to wait just a little bit longer for this review.

  an announcement was made after the screening that there was going to be a party held for this film at beggars banquet in e. lansing and that all in attendance was invited to come.

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  TThanks for the review, Jourles.
  
  A thought occurred to me, regarding the JW court cases which expanded/clarified freedoms: Larry Flynt, Bob Guccione, and Hugh Hefner have also had their days in court which have resulted in the clarification and expansion of freedoms in America.
  
  Soooo.....
  
  

  When you think of Joe Rutherford, you should also think of Larry Flynt! They share so much in common:

  
  
  

  • Both are Freedom Fighters that have taken their Freedom of Expression arguments all the way to the Supreme Court!
  
  
  • Idea logically United in their Quest for Freedom!
  
  
  • Both grew a huge Publishing business as almost a by-product of their One-True-Love (bible, and boobs, respectively)
  
  
  • Both are/were Chemical and/or Alcohol Dependent!
  
  
  • Both were once Christians, both for a short time!
  
  
  • Flynt was shot in an assassination attempt; Many People WISH that Rutherford was assassinated
  
  
  • Flynt's magazine is called "Hustler", while Rutherford's duplicity means he was a Hustler
  
  
  • Flynt's magazine is published locally Canada ("split run" is the term); Rutherford's Watchtower is likewise printed locally.

  
  
  (Disclaimer: I saw (but did not meet, darn!) Larry Flynt in Jan 2004, Gold Wheelchair and all. For those that want the tantalizing details, I will only say that on that same occasion there was plenty of... erm... "Augmentation" in the room that evening. I never met Rutherford, what with him being dead and all, but I did meet Freddie Franz when I was a kid.)
  
  ~Q
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  Wow that UN scandal really DOES work wonders

  by osmosis in

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  i'm totally amazed.

  i gave that un report to my (hardcore jw to the extreme max, but in a nice way) aunt, and she didn't speak of it for several days.

  when she said nothing, i knew i'd gotten somewhere.. today she finally spoke up.

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  Congratulations on your efforts. You are in a good position, because you know exactly what the WTS response will be, so you can pre-emptively deconstruct it before she hears it from them. If you point out the holes in the WTS defense BEFORE they proffer their defense, you're in a good position.
  
  See this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses:_Controversial_Issues#United_Nations_NGO_Association
  
  ~Q
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  Ready to be freaked out...

  by Hecklerboy in

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  go to www.webshots.com and search for jehovah witness.. all kinds of pictures from people making fun to convention pictures.

  all for your viewing pleasure ur i mean displeasure.

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  OK, I know it is not nice to make fun of Morons, but...
  
  These guys http://community.webshots.com/photo/546501493/2950665420084625892voBgUd don't even know how to spell their own religion.
  
  It is Jehovah's Witnesses, not Jehovahs' Witnesses.
  
  "Darn, Brother Steadfast, those Apostrophes are TRICKY!"
  
  This reminds me of the time I received email from a JW woman who referred to the Watch Tower Bible and Track Society. I guess she thinks her fellow JWs are all world class athletes.
  
  ~q
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  Recent misquotations

  by gringojj in

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  i am planning to address the problem of misquotations with some jws.

  i have told them before about the creation book and they said that apostates had been in the org in the past.

  anyways i am looking for some more recent ones to show them and see what they have to say.

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  chappy, you hit the nail on the head. This type of paranoia leads to the only possible conclusion that ALL WTS literature could POSSIBLY be the work of apostates. In other words, how to they know that the most recent Watchtower doesn't contain the work of apostates? If apostates could get into an enire book surely they could get something into a magazine.
  
  ~Q
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  Dubs vs. Scientology

  by seahart in

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  has anyone noticed the little scuffel with the scientologist?

  they seem to have had their feelings hurt in a cartoon.

  funny that they are not being potrayed as having crazy beliefs, and why is it being down played in the news?

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  Thanks, DanTheMan.
  
  Too bad about Isaac Hayes quitting over that episode; let's hope he changes his mind. Obviously the facts of that episode did nothing to awaken him from his Scientologist created ignorance.
  
  I saw the episode in question, and thought it was both funny and throught provoking, like all the best episodes of South Park.
  
  ~Q
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  What is Jehovah's Witness?

  by project in

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  hello.. i'm doing a religion project for a subject and i chose "jehovah's witness" as my topic.. i have no clue what this religion is about and i would really appreciate it if many people could answer some of my questions on this religion.

  please could you reply as this project is due for 23rd of march.. 1) what is jehovah's witness?.

  2) what's the difference between jehovah's witness and christianity?.

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  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_witnesses
  
  At that link, be sure not to miss the excellent chart "History of Eschatological Doctrine" which nicely summarizes the shifts and changes of their "bible based" beliefs down through the last century.
  
  Also, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses:_Controversial_Issues.
  
  ~Q