Posts by rabotnik

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What did you do?

by StiLLinTruth in

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to all those who have in some way left the organization (be it disfellowshipping, disassociating, dis-whatever):.

come now, i know the amount of people who "realized that wt doctrine was in serious error" and politely handed in their letter of resignation has to be very small.

the level of bitterness and hostility towards the closest-to-what's-biblical organization has to develop some other way.. what did you do?

rabotnik

Dear Mr. StiLLinTruth:

I'm intrigued by your assembly illustration of "getting on the bus" with the "fat woman." I think therein lies the answer to your metaphysical quandry!

the fat woman sitting next to you with two kids on her lap proceeds to have her picnic, and spreads her stuff all over the seat, with her children annoying you

What is this woman eating? Is it fried chicken by any chance? Are you annoyed because she's fat? Would you be less annoyed if she were skinny? Is this bus equipped with a toilet? Why do the kids bother you? Do you hate kids? Is the fat woman eating potato salad? Did she offer to share? Can you be happy that she and her children are happy to have a picnic on a bus seat amidst unfriendly passengers?

OK, Mr. StiLLinTruth --this is what I want to know!

Mental38

PS: Why the two capital "L's" in the middle of your name? Did you do it just for the 'ell of it?

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I can fool everybody with my religion!

by mensa163 in

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whether i am a lutheran, catholic, jehovahs witness, mormon jew or any other religion i can play the part quite well.

as a matter of fact most of us can.

i can be regular at my places of worship, give generously , teach sunday school, read my.

rabotnik

Welcome Mensa163 -- glad you're on board.

But man am I a bloody mess! I thought you were writing Menses163! Call me Mental38.

Hey Trevor,

I've been buying old folk music records and recently bought a Buffy Sainte-Marie album that must be paleolithic. Anyway, it had your quote on it:

'I was an oak, now I'm a willow I can bend.'

It's from a song called "Until It's Time For Me To Go." Is that the original source or was she quoting or alluding to some previous text?

The best to all,
r.

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Official Intro/My Story....

by Sunchild in

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anyway, my name's rochelle.

i posted on h2o (and now here) as sunchild, everyone's favorite witness-turned-wiccan.

i think that i was looking for a surrogate family.

rabotnik

Hey! Soleil-Enfant,

Recovery? Is it really possible? Good for you, SC. True, you didn’t grow up daily indoctrinated with that post-Russell hustle -- so you have a connection to other realities. For me, leaving that narcotic apocalyptic nipple, finding my name on god’s S&M hit-list, jumping naked into the dark miasmic realities of the 21st Century -- well, I‘m still reeling. OK, maybe I’m just crazy and it has nothing to do with mind-numbing theology, bad haircuts and a briefcase full of religious tracts. It could happen.

You write very well. To write concisely and clearly is a gift. ...and writing a novel? Wow! I envy your enthusiastic industry! (I’ve finished a first draft of a novel titled: "Cockroach!") I understand your relief at being able to freely create without guilt. That can be hard for some non-JWs to understand -- they can’t fathom the self-suspicion and censorship that arises from anything "heartfelt," passionate or original. Yeah, I like reading fantasy -- since reality seems to be such a bummer. But my favorite writer-du jour is James Baldwin -- who is very "real." I guess I identify with his marginalized, gay, angry artist, outraged-by-injustice-but-enjoying-the-abundant-brittle-cutting-shards-of -beauty angst.

Hey, I wasn’t putting your "religion/magic" down -- nor was I pursuing any iconoclastic "prize." I’m just burned out on ALL religious/spiritual brain-bangs. ...and, no, I’m not an atheist or agnostic. You could say I’m currently in a metaphysical coma. But if you’ve found something that illuminates the eternal night -- honey, go for it. Like yourself, I too am leery of proselytizing relig-o-holics. Maybe it’s just being stark-raving post JW -- but I’m reluctant to hand over my brain for a re-tooling, just yet.

Btw, I came across the name of a mental illness called "parousiamania" -- no kidding! It’s used for people who are "ill" with the obsession of the second coming of Christ. (Jesus Crisco, is that a knock on the front door, or what! Met a few of those myself.)

Re: the name "rabotnik." It’s Russian for "worker." I always felt like an automaton when I was a witness. Then, I was influenced by Anthony Burgess’s "A Clockwork Orange." It’s kind of Nadsat speak.

Gotta go, SC, the wild day is calling. Hope you’re healthy, celebrating life, and finding joy amidst the "noise"! May you always be drowning in a wet, yeasty, creative milieu!

r.

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Official Intro/My Story....

by Sunchild in

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anyway, my name's rochelle.

i posted on h2o (and now here) as sunchild, everyone's favorite witness-turned-wiccan.

i think that i was looking for a surrogate family.

rabotnik

Here comes the Sun:

Checked out your web page -- you are a very creative person! It amazes me that any truly creative person can survive inside the black hole called the WTBST without their alpha-waves getting all twisted in the wrong direction forever.

I'm not into any New Age "bored-again" stuff. Or any wiccan stuff. Or any Jesus-crazed, holy-roller, god-loves-you-but-he's still-gonna-kill-you religion for that matter. I'm just a machine -- I have no "soul."

But I am a musician, writer and artist. No, I don't have any web site. But I had a recent show of my "pornographic" neo-Saint paintings.

Here's a quote from poet Rainer Maria Rilke: "Have patience with everything unresolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves ... the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps then, you will gradually without even noticing it, live your way into the answer."

Create!

r.

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GWM seeking LTR

by rabotnik in

hairy hunchback, covered with boils, seeking ricky martin clone who appreciates a fine hump.

must be willing to mop up sputum and empty chamber pot.

romamtic evenings riding the bus and wandering the aisles of wal-mart.

rabotnik

Hairy hunchback, covered with boils, seeking Ricky Martin clone who appreciates a fine hump. Must be willing to mop up sputum and empty chamber pot. Romamtic evenings riding the bus and wandering the aisles of Wal-Mart. Call Bruno.

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Photos at churches

by Undecided in

back in the sixties i was into photography.

i took pictures at several weddings.

some were in churches.

rabotnik

Take the equipment out of the attic -- and see what develops!

r.

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Okay .... my turn

by RR in

all this talk about the gb, and it being all white, well herd is a black man, so you afro-americans happy?

huh?

what i want to know is when is there going to be a puerto rican on the governing body, what, they afraid bethel will be serving rice and beans all day?

rabotnik

Hey RR:

"Hey, just read today in the paper, that hispanics are the number one ethnic group in California, seems that the white man has been bumped to number two!"

I hate to burst your bubble but you misread that. I have right in front of me the SF Chronicle. While it says that Hispanics make up nearly a third of the population of the state at 32.4 percent; "non-Hispanic whites" are 46.7 percent of the population -- so, "whites" are no longer the majority but are still the largest "group." Asians are 10.8 percent; black or African American make up 6.4 percent; and other races 3.7 percent.

Maybe next year!

r.

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What about those who commit suicide???

by nogs in

the wts say that those who commit suicide commit a grave act toward god and will be everlastingly cut-off.

where does that idea come from and where is the compassion of ones when the person just could not go on living anymore????.

i felt like ending it alot of times, the jws made me feel ugly, stupid and unworthy individual, i lost all my confidence and never felt that anyone would want to marry me as i was so flawed.

rabotnik

Hi waiting,

I'm curious. You wrote:

"I had a very close friend commit suicide in '77, and his funeral was standing room only with jw's.

Did they have the funeral at the kingdom hall? Back in the late '80s there was an elder who committed suicide and they wouldn't let the family have a memorial at the KH. I can remember being out in service and some were discussing his death as if he were a criminal. I just kept thinking he must have been in a lot of pain to do that -- also he must have been very alone. Then there was a young sister who committed suicide -- she jumped in front of a train. Everybody was in such denial saying it was an accident (? ... as if one could trip off an overpass as a train was coming?). She'd just been in a psychiatric hospital, been very despondent, and the police report said "suicide." Again, no memorial at the KH.

r.

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Now Foot and Mouth Hits My Families Farm.

by Englishman in

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friends

i thought that maybe i would keep everyone up to date re the foot and mouth epidemic that is sweeping the uk.. my wifes brother bob has a farm in dumfries, which is just across the scotland border.

yesterday tony blair visited the area and commended the farmers for their courage in keeping going in the face of almost insurmountable odds.. this morning bob received a letter from the ministry of agriculture.

his animals are within 5 miles of an outbreak of f & m, and as such they are to be slaughtered in an effort at containment.

rabotnik

Thanks for the post, Englishman. It's hard to imagine how devastating this scourge is ... I hope your family and you will soon be beyond all of this.

Hang in there,
r.

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A very bad day

by RedhorseWoman in

today i arrived at work thinking that this would be a day like any other.

has been a combination of joy, sorrow, and relief.. my niece in new mexico left me a message this morning.

my sister died yesterday.

rabotnik

So sorry RedHorseWoman -- I hope feelings and relationships get better soon.Trust in moving forward.

r.