Posts by apostatethunder

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What Gilead Taught ME

by AllTimeJeff in

they mean the leadership.

all of this is code for: one who is not ready to really study and accept how the leadership of jehovah's witnesses use the bible to their own self serving means.

but to be fair, jw's teach that most all of these characters refer to the leadership of jehovah's witnesses, the governing body.

apostatethunder

Thanks for bumping this information, very telling. The Bible does mention them, but not as Christ's brothers.

“Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to you in sheep’s covering but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them.”

“Then if anyone says to you, look! Here is the Christ, or there! Do not believe it, for false Christ and prophets will arise…”

“For I say to you, if your righteousness does not abound more than that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter into the kingdom of the heavens.”

“By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.”

I am glad to hear you are doing well now.

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Preaching the good news in Africa . . . WTS's future?

by sizemik in

there's been a few threads and comments on where wts will concentrate their efforts to maintain membership.

it has been suggested that the advent and growth of the net, among other things, has significantly slowed growth in most developed lands.

some of the new style of literature has added to the speculation that less devloped lands present a better opportunity.. .

apostatethunder

Last year’s new releases at the convention were for people with limited reading. A clear declaration of intentions.

If they want to learn about the Bible, there are many other religions that wouldn’t be so costly for them in terms of freedom and personal development.

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spirituality and religion - what are the differences?

by soft+gentle in

trying to understand the differences.

started this topic on the xjwsforchrist forum as well and would like to ask jwn posters the same question.

apostatethunder

Religion is the social and public expression of spirituality.

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WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

by SnowQueen in

i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

apostatethunder

Mp, none of us are truly free, that’s the reality of it. Now, do you prefer not being free in the Christian part of the world, or in the non Christian part of the world?

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Why didn't God disfellowship Jesus for breaking the laws of the Talmud?

by I_love_Jeff in

jesus loathed the talmud and broke as many of its laws as he could on any occasion that presented itself.

so if jesus broke the laws of the talmud, wouldn't he have been disfellowshipped if he did the same thing to the watchtower.

a jehovah's witness can be disfellowshipped or disassociated if he/she breaks this rule in the elder's manual: rebellion against jehovah's organization.. what say you?.

apostatethunder

Mp, this is a debate I don’t want to start.

Everything about Jesus character is in the Bible.

You see him as a traitor and a collaborator with the Romans, racist at the same time, promoting slavery, and not helping anyone….that’s your reading of it, sorry can not help you.

It is all there.

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WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

by SnowQueen in

i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

apostatethunder

Nothing wrong with having secrets, but no need to abuse other people.

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WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

by SnowQueen in

i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

apostatethunder

True Christianity frees people and some have a problem with that.

The WT is damaging to people and societies on many different levels. If they practice occultism that would be the ultimate insult to their followers that can not even have a Sparlock.

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Why didn't God disfellowship Jesus for breaking the laws of the Talmud?

by I_love_Jeff in

jesus loathed the talmud and broke as many of its laws as he could on any occasion that presented itself.

so if jesus broke the laws of the talmud, wouldn't he have been disfellowshipped if he did the same thing to the watchtower.

a jehovah's witness can be disfellowshipped or disassociated if he/she breaks this rule in the elder's manual: rebellion against jehovah's organization.. what say you?.

apostatethunder

Jesus was no traitor. He just denounced the Pharisees because they were exploiting their own people.

He did not promote anyone being the pawn of anyone, his message is a message of freedom actually, that’s why Christians started being persecuted.

If you give someone a very valuable present and they reject it, how do you feel? He did help everyone that came his way.

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In Your Estimation What Percentage Of Witnesses Actually Believe They Have The "Truth"?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i think 60% think or hope it's all what it's cracked up to be and the others are just there for different reasons.. what do you think?.

apostatethunder

Were it not for the fear of being disfellowshipped, a big number of them would just leave immediately, others just a bit later.

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The WT likes to point out faults of Papacy

by bobld in

the wt will do endless research on the r.c.c and the faults of popes.as can be.

seen in their publication.. are not the popes and the r.cc.

humans and will make mistakes.. is it any different from god's choosen nation and all the kings and .

apostatethunder

There are many different Christian religions, and the vast majority of them don’t make a point of antagonizing the other ones. They just go about their own business.