Posts by apostatethunder

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I Believe Catholicism And Its Trappings Are Silly, Strange & Weird!!!

by minimus in

jw
friends

my italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.

these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".

they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.

apostatethunder

Diest, we are not living in the middle ages now. People that want to bring the Church down nowadays don’t do so for whatever happened 500 years ago, they do it because they have a political agenda and the Church is an obstacle for that agenda. It is as simple as this.

The Vatican is not a corporation, sorry, it is a State, and it holds the culture, history and traditions of Europe and therefore of our Western society. What they stand for is human rights, charity, education, and individual freedoms.

The WT does not even compute in a barometer against it.

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WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

by SnowQueen in

i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

apostatethunder

Is there a Pope hugging a politician in the cover of this Watchtower? A couple of years ago they had one with a priest holding a gun…

And they have the chick to ask: Religion and politics, should they mix?

The Pope meets with people, politicians included, at daylight, he has nothing to hide, they were members of the UN (the wild beast, if I remember well) in secret. Hypocrites!

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I Believe Catholicism And Its Trappings Are Silly, Strange & Weird!!!

by minimus in

jw
friends

my italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.

these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".

they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.

apostatethunder

The WT is not a religion, it’s a corporation. They do a good job in destroying people’s spirituality.

Not all religions are like that, and not all religions control your life the way the WT does.

Religion is the external representation of our spiritual beliefs. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Is going from the JWs to another Religion just a "Rebound?"

by braincleaned in

jw
friends

*a rebound is the need to fill a void with something we partly had confort in; whether in romance or faith.... .

i posted the following in another thread, and i welcome your feedback - especially if you disagree with my logic.

"as per one of my notes, my biggest fear is my, our, natural tendency for confirmation bias.

apostatethunder

I will never join another high control group in my life, religious or not. My religion does not manipulate me in any way these days. And I like to be part of the ceremonies, and traditions, plus they are helping many people in different ways that I support.

For me not believing in God is illogical, and I find atheist are in general not very respectful and some of them even totalitarian, which I don’t like.

Personally I have no interest whatsoever in debating with any atheist about our respective beliefs, a lot of atheist though are very similar to the witnesses in that they want to debate with people that has no interest.

Ex-jws that were dogmatic and judgemental when they were in the WT will continue to be so even if they leave, their beliefs will change, but not their character. A dogmatic atheist is a fanatic, because if I can not prove God exists, he can not prove He doesn’t. So the best option is live and let live.

It saddens me that people don’t seem to realize that you don’t need to join another religion to be manipulated. You just have to believe everything you hear in the news without questioning it, or support a political party without understanding what they really stand for.

King Solomon, about the Illuminate, you seem very determined to prove they don’t exist, and I start to believe you may be part of the conspiracy.

The signs are there. Look at Lady Gaga calling people “idiots” at every opportunity. Same for the WT publications, maybe somebody in HQ is really p****d off, or maybe they are laughing out loud about it, or maybe they just want apostates to spend their valuable time analyzing their worthless publications.

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Is going from the JWs to another Religion just a "Rebound?"

by braincleaned in

jw
friends

*a rebound is the need to fill a void with something we partly had confort in; whether in romance or faith.... .

i posted the following in another thread, and i welcome your feedback - especially if you disagree with my logic.

"as per one of my notes, my biggest fear is my, our, natural tendency for confirmation bias.

apostatethunder

I can not speak for others, in my case I was raised as a Catholic, and after a few wasted years in the WT, I decided to come back.

Believing in God or not is a personal decision, that should be respected.

I do not try to convert anyone to Catholicism, but don’t like it when people insult it either.

We as human beings are spiritual beings, and not recognizing this part of ourselves cripples us in a way that no amount of logic can make up for.

There are many mysteries in the universe, and humans have always wondered about them. So, no I don’t think it is a rebound to look for another religion to fill you spiritually.

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Do you think our society is on the verge of collapsing?

by jam in

not to sound like the gloom and doom cult we were apart,.

but are we heading for an collapse in our society?.

iam sure we all are familiar with the signs that bring about.

apostatethunder

You can protest as much as you want, if you can not afford the cost of living, you are not free.Economic oppression will lead to all types of oppression.

Expecting to be able to pay your bills and live a decent life after an 8hr shift is not being spoiled, specially when your banker earns 50 times your salary.

I wonder why psychos like Stalin and others like him wanted so much to bring America down. Individual freedom is threatening yes, specially if you are surrounded by nuts.

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

apostatethunder

Nc, I find you too dumb to even begin to explain the meaning of pure to you, sorry.

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spirituality and religion - what are the differences?

by soft+gentle in

trying to understand the differences.

started this topic on the xjwsforchrist forum as well and would like to ask jwn posters the same question.

apostatethunder

The only people that don’t feel any guilt are psychos. If you are doing something that harms others you should feel some guilt, don’t you think?

The problem is some people only see what is in front of them and don’t realize their actions have consequences for others.

Religions have abused this power over people, but the principle of right and wrong still remains.

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

apostatethunder

Whatever works for you nc. Same as with western society being more evolved than others, and you finding that thought repulsive, whatever works for you.

There are plenty of other very interesting cultures in the world with a lot to offer in terms of personal freedom and progress. Maybe you should consider a move.

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The Truth About Bible Principles: Chastity and Abstinence

by sabastious in

jehovah's witnesses have a vast array of buzzterms that are fed into them on a regular basis, not the least of which is the term "bible principles.

" for most of my life i was convinced that only members of the watchtower bible and tract society were applying bible principles in the correct way.

this was mainly because we believed we had the correct translation of the holy scriptures which was largely rejected by "satan's world.

apostatethunder

Chasteness is purity. Sex can be pure. Abstinence doesn’t guarantee chasteness. Hypocrisy even less so.

The OT has two standards for men and women, Jesus treated both equally. The WT took the story of the woman that was going to be stoned out of the Bible. Very telling as to how they view things.