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  Bewildering Background revealing who stopped slavery in the world

  by Terry in

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  bewildering background.

  even among the greatest religious thinkers and moral philosophers of civilizations around the world for 1000’s of years slavery was not considered a moral issue.. only one civilization developed a “moral revulsion” against it very late in its history:western civilization.. abraham lincoln said:if slavery is not considered wrong; nothing can be considered as wrong.. but why did not even the leading moralists among other nations and civilizations reject slavery at all?.

  there is no evidence that slavery came under attack in any other part of the world before the 18th century.

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  apostatethunder

  Terry

  We are talking about the world in the 16th Century. Not sure what were protestant countries in Feudal Europe doing against slavery at the time. All we know is that slavery is very much alive in the 21st Century.

  Jesuits were also a Spanish Catholic Order that nowadays have been replaced by the Opus Dei, which looks more like a protestant joke than anything else.

  And no need to get so heat up about the Spanish being the first to do something against slavery. Americans can actually be the ones freeing the world from it once and for all. Hopefully this time for real.
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  Bewildering Background revealing who stopped slavery in the world

  by Terry in

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  bewildering background.

  even among the greatest religious thinkers and moral philosophers of civilizations around the world for 1000’s of years slavery was not considered a moral issue.. only one civilization developed a “moral revulsion” against it very late in its history:western civilization.. abraham lincoln said:if slavery is not considered wrong; nothing can be considered as wrong.. but why did not even the leading moralists among other nations and civilizations reject slavery at all?.

  there is no evidence that slavery came under attack in any other part of the world before the 18th century.

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  apostatethunder

  I'm afraid Thomas Sowell had the wrong information. Slavery was forbidden in the 16th Century by Catholic Spain.

  Not sure what happened afterwards or why there are more slaves nowadays than ever before in history.

  Maybe we should ask Thomas Sowell.
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  Did you feel contempt for Non Witnesses

  by Steel in

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  the other day i went to this farm owned by this jw lady with my wife being a jw and my mother being a non witness.

  later taking to my mother she noticed this vibe like this jw lady really hated her.

  she just had these little slags like when we tried to pay for the fruit we picked , she looked directly at my wife and said " don't worry about it, i only charge wordly people ".. i also have this aunt who is a jw we are estranged from.

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  The terms worldly people, worldly friends, worldly attitudes... were widely used in all congregations I've been. There was even worldly nail polish and worldly hair cuts.
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  Does Anybody Here Sympathize With The Looters That Cause Destruction?

  by minimus in

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  i realize some here are diehard democrats.

  whether you are democrat, republican or independent, do you support any of these looters that cause mayhem and destruction for their cause?

  i have heard some people sympathize with these law breakers saying they understand why they do what they do and leave it at that.. of course i wonder how they would feel if their own property was burnt or stolen or destroyed..

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  Mobs are very dangerous, who would encourage a mass of people to solve ANYTHING?

  People are not numbers, but they are treated as if they were and they behave accordingly.
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  Did you feel contempt for Non Witnesses

  by Steel in

  1. watchtower
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  the other day i went to this farm owned by this jw lady with my wife being a jw and my mother being a non witness.

  later taking to my mother she noticed this vibe like this jw lady really hated her.

  she just had these little slags like when we tried to pay for the fruit we picked , she looked directly at my wife and said " don't worry about it, i only charge wordly people ".. i also have this aunt who is a jw we are estranged from.

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  Never, and I never saw it either. Only once I heard from a not so exemplarly brother that worldly people were the dead men walking, and it was quite shocking.

  They hate "the world" as a whole, not the individuals living in it, and they also look down on witnesses doing something they dissaprove of, like starting a relationship with a worldly person, dressing worldly or displaying any other worldly behaviour.

  Not mixing with the world can be missundertstood as contempt but it's not. They truly want to help those people they keep their distance from.
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  I don't get it - Marriage in WT world

  by menrov in

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  in wt world, a marriage is only seen (considered) as legal if it is registered in the municipality (or similar governmental organisation).

  now, if you look at the scriptures, there was no requirement to have a marriage legally registered in order to be considered married.

  is it not strange that the wt subjects themselves to and adopts an worldly arrangement setup but governments rules by satan when it comes to a marital status?.

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  The Supreme Court says marriage is a constitutional right. Thus there is no need for a license or permit. If preaching is a right and we don't need a permit, then same with marriage.

  I think is very romantic to be married in the eyes of God and also in the eyes of Satan, like Jehovah's Witnesses do without giving much thought to it.
  
  
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  I don't get it - Marriage in WT world

  by menrov in

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  2. beliefs

  in wt world, a marriage is only seen (considered) as legal if it is registered in the municipality (or similar governmental organisation).

  now, if you look at the scriptures, there was no requirement to have a marriage legally registered in order to be considered married.

  is it not strange that the wt subjects themselves to and adopts an worldly arrangement setup but governments rules by satan when it comes to a marital status?.

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  The most honorable way to start a family is still getting legally married. Of course if you believe the State is in the hands of the Devil, it doesn't make any sense to do it.

  And they say Feminism is destroying families, not alegal practices like prostitution, concubinate, poligamy or marrying for fiscal purposes.
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  Watchtower Study 23rd August

  by BluesBrother in

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  the subject is searching for lost sheep.

  how do the congregation view the inactive ones who no longer associate?

  not with disdain, we are told but as lost sheep “still our brothers “ it is said that god loves them and they too must do what they can to help them.. why have we strayed ?

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  I've been there. I've been that sister in the bus thinking to myself: they look so much better from the distance.
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  I don't get it - Praying before eating while ...

  by menrov in

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  i noticed recently.

  there was an item in the news on some terrible / horrific child pornography in germany.

  really disgusting to hear what these people were doing with children as young as a few months.

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  Thanking god for the food he's provided for you is also saying that he is responsible for NOT providing food for the millions who are malnourished or starving.

  Maybe you are the one feeding yourself, which is also saying you are doing it at their expense.
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  Was It Designed? (My head hurts)

  by Cadellin in

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  i know i shouldn't--i tell myself this over and over--but i can't help peeking at these silly articles.

  and then i see this and my head really starts hurting: so the gannet, if you don't know (and why would you?

  ) is a seabird that feeds on fish.

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  apostatethunder

  Animals eat meat as they are all part of a natural circular ecosystem. If they were all vegetarian, what would happen to dead corpses?
  

  Humans probably started eating meat in extreme conditions, as the human being doesn't need to do the job of any animal and eating meat is quite disgusting if you think about it.

  Unless you believe that humans are just evolved piranhas, termites, sharks or vultures.

  There's a theory that humans are not the last link in the food chain and humans have an invisible predator.