Here is a question, if "not one of them is missing" how does the Org explain Super Nova's, the destruction of a star at the end of it's life cycle? Because by definition it is missing, I have never heard of any explanation from the Org to explain this contradiction.
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Not One of them is missing
by pandorasbox1914 in.
here is a question, if "not one of them is missing" how does the org explain super nova's, the destruction of a star at the end of it's life cycle?
because by definition it is missing, i have never heard of any explanation from the org to explain this contradiction..
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What could the R&F theme tune be?
by pandorasbox1914 ini started this topic "what could the fds theme tune be?
", there has been some great ideas with this so how about one for the r&f in, fading or out.. to get the ball rolling how about these:.
slade, mama weer all crazy now.
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pandorasbox1914
I started this topic "What could the FDS theme tune be?", there has been some great ideas with this so how about one for the R&F In, Fading or Out.
To get the ball rolling how about these:
Slade, Mama Weer All Crazy Now
Queen, I Want To Break Free
Rihanna, Fading
Anyone else?
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What could the FDS theme tune be?
by pandorasbox1914 inwhat do think guy's?for me it would have to be jimi hendrix "all along the watchtower" and when they end their earthly course, led zeppelin's "stairway to heaven"any other good songs?
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pandorasbox1914
Hey guys like all the responses lets have some fun with this and keep it going.
How about The Who "My Overlapping Generation", oops sorry, bit of a Splane moment, I meant "My Generation" look at some of the lyrics:
People try to put us d-down
Remember the ARC last summer, how about Black Sabbath, Paranoid.
I hope I die before I get old
Why don't you all f-fade away
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What could the FDS theme tune be?
by pandorasbox1914 inwhat do think guy's?for me it would have to be jimi hendrix "all along the watchtower" and when they end their earthly course, led zeppelin's "stairway to heaven"any other good songs?
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pandorasbox1914
What do think guy's?
For me it would have to be Jimi Hendrix "All Along the Watchtower"
And when they end their earthly course, Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven"
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My experience with the people in my hall
by Freeandclear ini've been awake now for about 6 months i'd guess and a member here for a couple of weeks.
it's been eye opening to read other peoples experiences on here and i appreciate all of you.
i've noticed in many, seemingly most, of your comments that you were not treated well at your hall or you have had very negative experiences in the "org" so i thought i'd like to share mine.. in all my time as a jw i have to say for the most part i always loved the people.
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pandorasbox1914
Freeandclear
Welcome to your freedom, I also have been lurking for some time and took the plunge 4 days ago on here. I am envious of your experiences with JW's and that it went well for you.
Sadly for me like so many others it was anything but. I will not go into detail here, but briefly as a MS, I was told by an elder that "...no MS tells me what to do", I uncovered an anomaly with the accounts to do with missing money, the elder made my life hell so that I had to move congregations. But it did not end there he made sure that a bad report was sent to my new congregation, the result no reappointment as I was deemed a bad influence on the congregation. They then proceeded to shun me, my family and friends for the next 20 years, in the end we all had enough and we are all out!
Our experience is by no means unique, I have heard of much worse in other congregations. So Freeandclear you have been very fortunate and I am pleased that you have not suffered the same as so many others.
At least now you have seen the light on new light.
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Omg New Borg Kingdumb Song, they went all Lion King theme Lol
by MrsR-Awaken inthe borg is turning into a disney music making machine check out their new kingdumb song (caution it might make your ears bleed).
https://youtu.be/goj1vbvqvhq.
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pandorasbox1914
What next, guitar strumming on the platform, Yeh I am going back, I can't wait to do my Jimi Hendrix solo "All Along The Watchtower"
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Pandora’s Box, Why?
by pandorasbox1914 ini posted my intro 3 days ago and would like to say thanks to everyone for the welcome shown to a new poster.
a lot more than i have ever received from my so called brothers and sisters over 25+ years..
this is my third post today, so way too much time on my hands apparently..
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pandorasbox1914
I posted my intro 3 days ago and would like to say thanks to everyone for the welcome shown to a new poster. A lot more than I have ever received from my so called brothers and sisters over 25+ years.
This is my third post today, so way too much time on my hands apparently.
First of all I may have given the impression that I was a girl because of the use of Pandora, but I am a guy.
Pandora’s Box was used as a means to illuminate all that is wrong with the ORG, and I thought it was cool and different.
It got me thinking, I wonder how many people might know the story of Pandora’s Box, so here goes.
Zeus, the King of the God’s hid fire from mankind.
Prometheus a Titan did not agree with this and so stole fire from Zeus and gave it to mankind. This so enraged Zeus that he ordered Hephaestus to create a beautiful woman in the image of a goddess out of revenge, she was to be a punishment for mankind. All the god’s gave her gifts, Hermes however, gave her a deceitful nature and the name Pandora (“Pan” meaning “All” and “Dora” meaning “Gifts”), because 'all her gifts' had been given her by the gods, showing her to be a parody of the only true Giver of All Gifts, who was Gaia, Mother Goddess Earth.
Pandora was given a box (“Pithos” originally a jar in earlier texts), she was instructed never to open the box. Zeus knew that Pandora was not malicious but was curious and that curiosity would eventually get the better of her. This of course was Zeus’s objective as he wanted mankind to suffer in order to understand that they should not disobey their god’s.
The box contained the evils of sicknesses by day and night, old age, harsh toil, death, but also hope. Pandora opened the box and all the evils poured out into the world but Zeus would not allow her to close it. But just as hope was about to come out, Zeus allowed Pandora to close the box, so trapping hope inside. Prior to the box being opened, mankind lived in peace from the sufferings now plaguing them.
This got me thinking of a slightly different application.
Zeus has been related to Satan the Devil, if so this creates some interesting connotations, Pandora could represent the ORG, after all the ORG has used such terms as mother, bride etc., it has had many gifts bestowed upon it, Holy Spirit, FDS etc. It too has its box, the NWT which interestingly has also dispensed many evils upon mankind, 1914, two witness rule with regards to child abuse, shunning, false predictions etc. Coincidentally it to has locked up hope just like Pandora’s Box, as a result many JW’s suffer more in the Truth than before they were converted.
Anyway, just some musings on why I chose pandorasbox1914.
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They're now asking people to clean at Bethel?
by onightdivine ini heard from a "friend" that a letter was read aloud during the midweek meeting asking people to volunteer to do cleaning work in bethel.
lol.
i really can't think of anything else to say if this is true.. they get more free labor, and they still ask for more more more money!!
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pandorasbox1914
It's funny how everything in the ORG is a privilege, and that includes cleaning. Yet when I did go to hall cleaning many years ago the outstanding thing that stood out was that no elder actually involved themselves in the privilege of cleaning. At most they might use the hoover or a bit of dusting, but generally it was only supervising. Another thing about the privilege of cleaning was that no one would clean the toilets, that was always left to my wife and her best friend.
It seems to me that cleaning is a privilege only for the R&F, it does not apply to those in charge.
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Queued for Processing ....
by cofty inif a new topic hangs for ages with spinning icon at "queued for processing " should you give up and post a new copy of the thread or will the eventually result in two threads?.
if it has cleared the first tick "uploading post" can you safely click away from the page?.
servers seem a bit slow recently?.
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pandorasbox1914
Hi Simon,
I am also suffering from this problem, I am a new poster, I have posted some new topics and some replies, but the post I am trying to do now is continually stuck. I have tried posting it a number of times all with the same outcome, I have even tried changing it but that makes no difference either.
The first time I posted I wrote directly to the post form and of course it was lost, I have since written it on a word document so I at least have it saved. But it is becoming annoying, what am I doing wrong? How can I overcome this?
P.S. This has posted with no problems, very strange.
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2016-1-12-BOE--Mentioning Donation Arrangement to Householder!
by Atlantis in2016-1-12-boe.
"apply yourself to the field ministry," the "initial call" assignmentdirects the student to mention the donation arrangement..http://postimg.org/image/tayz8pawn/..atlantis!
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pandorasbox1914
I remember when it changed from charging to not charging and it was continually stressed that the literature was not free because it cost money to print.
We were always told to say to the householder that it was without charge, that statement implied at a subconscious level that a contribution should be made!
Well guess what, to me without charge was the same as free, so not once did I ever say that to someone. If they wanted to contribute that was fine, if not that was also fine.
Then there was the other statement that always angered me, even if the householder contributes we should contribute as well. Hell no, there was no way I was going to help pay twice, I only paid for my stuff and after a while even that stopped!
They treated me as if I did not exist, so strangely my money did not exist!