Parents are indeed tough to deal with. I think the best way is to exploit their weaknesses/current doubts (if any)/golden opportunities. Otherwise, get ready for the shunning and reporting (or lectures!).
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Facing the elders - The right way to do it?
by mrbunyrabit inso now you have it in your mind, that the wts are not what they say they are, they lie and what have you.. nowwwww, next time you dont go out in fieldservice, and the next time, and the next time people start to wonder.. well, time comes and you have to explain yourself to who ever.
your mom, your dad, an elder, who ever.
now you cant just go about saying, "well, one of the things is that new light is a bunch of crap, because russel predicted this in 1914 and that in 1918 and that in.....".
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by sseveninches inhi guys,.
i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.
i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.
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This Sunday is our family study...I'm planning to bring up the increasing partakers issue, just by saying that I noticed an increase going through the yearbooks, while the watchtowers say they're supposed to be dwindling.
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by sseveninches inhi guys,.
i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.
i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.
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Thanks again for the welcome, everyone.
Sd-7 - very good advice...thanks for that. I agree on the woman part, they have their way of extracting information from people.
outsmartthesystem - I'm not denying that it's what I was referring to (I needed a username that no one could recognize me with), but what if I was referring to something else?
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by sseveninches inhi guys,.
i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.
i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.
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Thanks jam, and trust me, I'm going really slow on this one.
Factfinder - I tried to rationalize it too, but it didn't work. Eventually I got the thought of how Watchtower didn't even try to apologize or explain how this makes them look, considering that they've demonized the UN since its inception. To me, using UN libraries can be put on the same level as walking into a porn shop. Just think if an uber JW caught one of the recognizable GB members walking into a UN facility nonchalantly. It wouldn't matter if he was there "just for the library" or something more (the person wouldn't know). That person would be in indescribable shock.
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by sseveninches inhi guys,.
i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.
i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.
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Hey, Billy (I've been reading your posts over the last few days...you seem like an interesting guy!)
The "holy spirit" part is exactly what I was thinking about just yesterday...it doesn't make sense to me.
I actually planned to stay here after I graduate, because I really love it here. There are some other places I'd like to live in though, so I haven't ruled them out yet.
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by sseveninches inhi guys,.
i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.
i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.
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J dubb - yes, I've just been appointed MS while still being a college student. It took me by surprise, because I make no attempt to hide from the congregation that I'm a college student. I'm very close to some of the elders (particularly the ones that would be in charge of recommending me to the CO), and I honestly thought they were waiting for me to graduate first.
Not only that, but with all this talk of college being evil and it being a reason to have privileges being reviewed, I didn't think it would have happened, at least not now.
Quandry - that's exactly how I plan to do it. My mom is one of the sweetest human beings on earth, but at the same time a true zealot when it comes to JW affairs, so I need to go especially slow with her. Despite that fact, she'll hear me out whenever I have concerns. My dad is really into reading up on current events on the internet, although he is still somewhat computer illiterate. I don't know how I could get him to "find" that Guardian article that talks about the Watchtower/UN, but I'll somehow get him to read it without looking suspicious. Another thing about my dad - although he is a "good" JW, he's been very open about his opposition towards the Watchtower's view on higher education. Maybe I could exploit that in the near future...I don't know yet. He's also very curious (not in a naughty way) - he discovered YouTube recently, and he's been parked on it for the last few days, watching things like from Bob Marley videos, conspiracy theory videos, documentaries, and people saying why they don't like JWs (!). He might actually be easier to approach...but not yet.
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by sseveninches inhi guys,.
i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.
i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.
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To Jemba - so far I've been telling myself to continue with my "regularly scheduled programming" as in continue as if nothing happened, because I know that the moves I want to make each have their own time to be done. I'm just waiting for perfect opportunites to let out little snippets of information at a time to my family. I know that if I make a move too quickly or early, my family will just think I have been reading apostate websites (which isn't true, I haven't been reading YORWW or Six Circles or whatever it's called), and then the congregation will just dismiss me as a bad result of going to college (which I don't regret - I started college right after I finished high school and now I just remain a year until I graduate). [On a side note, I feel bad for everyone who was lied to in the 1960s/1970s and didn't go to college or didn't finish high school because of it...]
I just don't want anyone to suspect anything...at least not yet. I've been acting just like you for the past few days...I've been spending hours reading threads every day, and looking into the UN scandal (both the 2001 and 2005 appearances). Since I've only just discovered all these things, I'm still in sort of a shock phase...it's so tempting to say something to someone, but I've been holding back. Right now I'm at the edge of the cliff, waiting to be pushed off.
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by sseveninches inhi guys,.
i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.
i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.
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And Iamallcool, the answer is yes
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by sseveninches inhi guys,.
i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.
i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.
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Thanks for the welcome, guys. In this internet age, there's no way that all the computer-literate people (especially the younger ones) still in the organization don't know about these things. I'm only in my early 20s, and it was only a matter of time before I found out.
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by sseveninches inhi guys,.
i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.
i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.
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Hi guys,
I call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since I've known about this site...it's only been five days. I discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it. Since then, I've been reading all the threads of interest that have been posted between last year and now, and have found some really good (and shocking) stuff. I mention this because although I've been what you might call a "good" JW for the past few years, I've had my doubts on certain things, the most prominent ones being higher education (I'm on my senior year in college now studying engineering) and masturbation, since there's no biblical basis to speak against those two things.
So while reading the threads, I happened upon one that mentioned the Watchtower being affliated with the UN. I thought that there was no way it could be true, but I'm not one to denounce or quickly believe anything without researching on it first, and sure enough, I found the Guardian article on it, as well as the UN documentation proving it. Right then, my image of the Watchtower being a genuine, spirit-directed organization came crashing down. Since Friday I've been hooked reading past threads to see what more I could find, and I've been in awe, like reading all of the BOE letters, finding out about the secret elder's book, 607/587, 1914, and the "new light" controversy.
Just as I was finding out about all this information and wondering what to do and whether I should share this information with my family, I was appointed as an MS in my congregation. Couldn't have come at a better time...
Anyway, I just wanted to share my story, and I find it very comforting that there's a whole community of people who share my feelings. One thing that really surprised me is the fact that there are barely any heated arguments on here, despite this being a community of both active and inactive JWs, among others.
I'm a confused, newly appointed MS, and have no idea on what I should do, because of my family. If I come across anything new that is plain hyprocritical or just glaring deceit, I'm definitely making my exit though, no matter how my family reacts.