Posts by sseveninches

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How did your family react when you made it known that you did not want to be a JW anymore?

by Yondaime in

please share your experiences..

sseveninches

It was as one might expect - shocking and upsetting to everyone, but for me, it was also hilarious. I told my parents that I'm an atheist, and to confirm, they asked if I don't believe in Jehovah, Jesus, or Satan, to which I responded affirmatively. Then they asked "so all of them are fairy tales to you?" I answered yes. They then threw their hands in the air, and said "Satan has taken you", and then they were overcome by a confused frustration, saying "oh but Satan doesn't exist to you". I could see the cognitive dissonance causing a few sparks in their heads.

After they let the day's events simmer overnight, they made the decision to kick me out.

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I'm Shocked The Jehovah's Witnesses Even Allow Their Kids To Go To Mainstream Schools.

by Jehovanomics in

judging by the material that my kid brings home on a daily basis in copius amounts.

everything about everything in elementary school goes against the doctrines of the jehovah's witnesses.

how do jw's expect to make any money if all of their kids are defecting the jw's?

sseveninches

This is a thought that has crossed my mind too. A big part of going to school is learning to socialize and network, and to become a valuable member of society, while the JWs teach the exact opposite of all of that. By going to school, children are exposed to people of all backgrounds, cultures, orientations, religions, and more. As they mature and begin to think for themselves, they are bound to question a few things from their own religious background. So it makes perfect sense to me for a JW parent to decide to homeschool their children rather than send them to public/private schools.

Given that the widely known and accepted retention rate of born-ins are 33%, it seems to agree with what your saying: mainstream schools are not good for business. But don't give them any ideas...we should be discouraging homeschooling as much as possible (because JW parents are horrible at it), and let the kids go to regular schools. They need it, and it contributes to getting rid of the borg.

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Watchtower Legal Department targeting Facebook and Youtube users

by Londo111 in

from an email i received of a conversation had with people from patterson:.

it seems that the wts legal dept.

has been working with the fb [facebook] legal dept for about a year and also with youtube whoever they are, to enforce transparency.

sseveninches

This is complete and utter bullshit.

This type of information would only work on JWs, because they see the borg as an authority over their lives. However, no matter what they think, the WTS has absolutely no more legal power than any other company. They are not a governmental entity. They can't go around making people or companies do or enforce certain things. They can't get a warrant/subpoena for information. All they can do is what any other company can do, or even you or I: send a cease and desist letter (whine), and threaten to sue. But when the identity of the Facebook/Google account is unknown, who will you sue? Facebook and Google? Their legal departments will own WTS in court and take whatever money they have left.

This just shows how insecure they are about their beliefs. I wouldn't doubt the first part of this bit of info that there's a lot of Facebook posts/YouTube videos with content that denounces/disproves JW doctrine, but I think this was all made up by some angry/butthurt elder who can't handle the cognitive dissonance. He has no evidence to back his claims, so, as far as I know, he's talking out of his ass.

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KM Oct 2014 - Homosexuality (week of Oct 13th)

by Splash in

it would be interesting to have some present (stonewall?

) at these meetings to witness and record talk number three on the tms.. talk 3 - "what the bible says about homosexuality" (reasoning book p.368-369).

the reasoning book tells us in part:.

sseveninches

"Needless frustration" seemed to refer to the frustration of having to hide one's true self.

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Reading the Bible Alone "Will Lead you to Apostate Thinkings!" Stay a Watchtowerite!

by BucketShopBill in

"from time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of jehovah's people those, who, like the original satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude...they say that it is sufficient to read the bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home.

but, strangely, through such 'bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago.

the watchtower, aug. 15, 1981.. .

sseveninches

My mother once told me to be careful when reading the bible, because the devil can use it to trick me.

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I'm not gay, but

by FL_Panthers in

you ever seen a guy that you thought, " i'm not gay but hey!

i like the cut of his jib"?.

well here's the: blokes i'd like to "yenz" thread.

sseveninches

Haha, it's a username I created from back when I was still in both closets and didn't want a username that couldn't identify me at all.

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I'm not gay, but

by FL_Panthers in

you ever seen a guy that you thought, " i'm not gay but hey!

i like the cut of his jib"?.

well here's the: blokes i'd like to "yenz" thread.

sseveninches

The fact that this conversation is even happening means that we have a serious problem with insecurities when it comes to sexuality. I know I'm gay, and I know that noone or nothing can change that. I've seen women that I think are beautiful, and if it comes up in conversation, I'm not afraid to say it. I know that saying it won't magically change my sexuality, or make me any less of a person, and the same feelings should be shared by heterosexuals. I know many do, but not enough of them do.

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Any gay exJW's?

by Trapped in JW land in

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was just wondering how many gay exjw's were on this site, and how did you deal with being in this organization?

and also, how did you end up leaving?.

sseveninches

I'm gay myself. I left because I was done with school and thus it wouldn't hurt me to make my exit, although I was already mentally out for a year. I couldn't be myself and felt like a hypocrite trying to convert others. Once I realized the full-extent of the hypocrisy, I couldn't do field service for one more day. My parents and my sister hate my guts, and don't even tell me when family members die. I've since graduated, got a job, got a car, and got myself a place of my own, which so happens to be right across the street from the building my parents are in.

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Did anyone in the congregation discourage you from going to college?

by Trapped in JW land in

i remember being out on service with an elder when i was 17. he asked me what i plan on doing after high school.

i told him i was thinking of going to college to be a teacher.

he then asked me, "do you think this system is going to be around that long"?

sseveninches

A CO's wife tried to get me to quit engineering school and go to bethel to "complete" my degree. I'm sure that "completing my degree" would have included being an all fours scrubbing people's shit out of toilets for a while instead of studying. Needless to say, I didn't agree to that.

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2014 District Convention Key Talks

by EndofMysteries in

just listing all of the key talks from friday thru sunday, the program is up on jw org too.

friday.

"10:20 symposium: appreciating the thrones of divine rulership".

sseveninches

"Jehovah's Organization - 100 years of Seeking First God's Established Kingdom"

I smell a new DVD here.