Posts by Deleteandrestart

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"Bethelites told they weren’t doing enough, hadn’t reached their potential so about half of them walked out of the talk"

by oppostate in

this was news to me, it's from a year and a half ago,.

from joe emerson at http://www.christianwitnesses.com.

bethelites told they weren’t doing enough, hadn’t reached their potential so about half of them walked out of the talk; efforts made to get names of those who walked out but didn’t get them all.

Deleteandrestart

As much as I'd like that to be all true, I'm afraid most of it doesn't ring true to me, not yet anyway, and if it had got to that stage I think we'd all know that the wtbts was very near its end . But something soon has got to break and like a contagion in the Old Testament it will probably break out across the board.... I think a lot of it will be to do with the power of the Internet to inform,

some years ago a fine outstanding elder or so everyone in the congregation thought, all of a sudden gave up the " truth " and left , seems like he was having major doubts about the " truth" and, while he looks fine on the outside, inside his doubts were eating him away until his faith just collapsed........ That was in the 90s when the Internet was taking off and coincidentally he worked in IT .

Now everyone is able to look on the net so what damage is being done overall to the faithful?

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The battle lines are being drawn

by hillfy333 in

with the new rc conventions making their rounds, much has been leaked in regards to their loyalty videos.

disturbing is the ramping up of hatred and shunning towards those who have faded, especially if such ones according to the watchtower are living in sin, but have not been found guilty as yet by the judicial process.

certainly of the criteria of guilt, is talking against the gb, which i personally come under.

Deleteandrestart

I think that watchtower has spotted the obvious loophole in their quest for total mind control and is doing its best to close it ..... There must must be many thousands who know how to play the system and are living two separate lives quite successfully without bringing upon themselves the ire of the organisation. in my view they are peeved about this and wish to make someone say like myself who has no problems with the individual brothers and sisters but who disagrees with the policies of the organisation and who only attends once a month, into 3rd class citizens,

such a peevish and spiteful religion at times. There's really no need for it .

It will only drive people away in the end.

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"The Bunker" WT Conventions 2016 (Gag Me)

by Poztate in

in the very near future the gang will be down in a bunker,cellar awaiting the police,military to break in and take them away to camps or executions .

(paranoid much) this is the foretold "prophecy" of the governments turning on religion and saving them for last.since the couple portrayed as simplifying their life by getting rid of a lot of material things is shown to be (about) the same age in the bunker we know it must be any minute now that it will happen.

i have been out for over 35 years and things seem to be getting more bizarre each year.. when did this doctrine really become main stream?

Deleteandrestart

This Bunker mentality thing is a well known ploy to reinforce the " Them and us situation ",

frighten them and they will all stick tighter together...... It's all been done before, wasn't the go bag a similar thing ?

I think the idea is " well the gb must know something we don't "

i keep thinking you can only cry wolf so often, about once a decade seems about the norm , the R and F never seem to catch on , I'm just so glad of this forum is here and at least here people can see the lunacy for what it is ...... Plain old simple scaremongering.

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Jehovahs witnesses investing in stocks involving pornography, alcohol distribution and military war weapons??

by Ghiagirl in

why is this the first time i have come across this?

my husband showed me a video about how the jws invest in stock like cinemax, disney, companies producing war weapons, alcohol and much much more.

if this is true, there are tax records to show for it right?

Deleteandrestart

I think that they are the named Benificiaries of the Henrietta Reily trust and as such have no say in that , in other words someone has named them to take the money when dividends are due , they still take the money though and must know the source of it . I think this is so but anyone correct me if I'm wrong please.

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Meet Joy Grant - Struggles of Jehovah's Witness Women

by JT-LadyC in

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Deleteandrestart

Joy has been there and done it all, this interview is well worth listening to , it really does reinforce a lot of the opinions on this board , I would definitely recommend it, especially the part where joy says that the organisation has no loyalty for anything you do for them, I would concur with that entirely.

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Similar but not the same

by Deleteandrestart in

after watching ceders you tube video on muslim and jw shunning, i thought i'd look at some other ex religious you tubers, so i looked at the mormon ones, .

theres a lot of them but what struck me was the very similar mindsets and the way the internet made them start to question from a critical thinking point of view their own faith , it was just like another brand of the exact same thing and these people were experiencing the same thoughts as we get when we start to leave/question the "truth ",.

the main difference seems t be that jw shunning is totally merciless and never ending, and no real forgiveness takes place unless you cave in .

Deleteandrestart

After watching ceders you tube video on Muslim and jw shunning, I thought I'd look at some other ex religious you tubers, so I looked at the Mormon ones,

Theres a lot of them but what struck me was the very similar mindsets and the way the Internet made them start to question from a critical thinking point of view their own faith , it was just like another brand of the exact same thing and these people were experiencing the same thoughts as we get when we start to leave/question the "truth ",

The main difference seems t be that jw shunning is totally merciless and never ending, and no real forgiveness takes place unless you cave in .

If God was truly amongst the jw congregation, do you think he would really treat vulnerable people, misguided or lost people in this harsh and inhuman manner? And furthermore if he was among them and backing them is he apparently approving it ?

Jesus allowed people to walk away if they so desired ,as time moves forward it's becoming more and more clear that this practice is very very wrong.

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RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

by wifibandit in

in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

now, on with the leaks & releases!

first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

Deleteandrestart

Give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves in the end.... Regardless of what we say ,

its just the poor dubs who are taken in with it that I fear for because I know very many decent people who really are trying to conform. All to no avail

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Artificial Intelligence Is Here "Google's Deep Mind Explained! - Self Learning A.I. "

by Brokeback Watchtower in

jw
friends

our world is about to change big time.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnuyctuzjpm.

Deleteandrestart

When the deep mind project starts to disobey we'll have to protect ourselves and make sure it can only live /function so long and then it will have to be dependent on us to renew its " life "

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Artificial Intelligence Is Here "Google's Deep Mind Explained! - Self Learning A.I. "

by Brokeback Watchtower in

jw
friends

our world is about to change big time.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnuyctuzjpm.

Deleteandrestart

Maybe we ourselves we're an AI project and decided to go it alone without our creator,After all a large part of our own intelligence is built in and the rest is learned in the university of life.

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Where did Jehovah go ?

by Deleteandrestart in

for the many years i was mentally " in " the congregation, i equated the organisation as interchangeable with the persona of jehovah, in effect whatever the organisation said or thought, that was what jehovah thought and that was what jehovah said.... it was that simple.

so when i found out the ttatt and the cynical moves of the organisation over the years,including 1975 , the donation arrangements, the united nations, etc i was devastated and thought " where's jehovah in all of this?".

the god who i'd poured my heart out to on many occasions and who i thought was silently listening and hearing my pleas ..... was not there , .

Deleteandrestart

For the many years I was mentally " in " the congregation, I equated the organisation as interchangeable with the persona of Jehovah, in effect whatever the organisation said or thought, that was what Jehovah thought and that was what Jehovah said.... It was that simple.

So when I found out the TTATT and the cynical moves of the organisation over the years,including 1975 , the donation arrangements, the United Nations, etc I was devastated and thought " where's Jehovah in all of this?"

The God who I'd poured my heart out to on many occasions and who I thought was silently listening and hearing my pleas ..... Was not there ,

I found that people had hijacked the idea of God to control other people .

if there was a God he would not back this organisation because of what it's doing to people, otherwise he would be as culpable as they are .

So the kind God who would listen to you and the wise God who always knew best was vacant.

The point is where did this leave my belief system and my hopes.... Basically in ruins, and furthermore it's left a kind of scorched earth scene behind it , where if you can't rely on the one true God then nothing else will cut it .

Result .... Like many I suspect on here , a life full of unanswered questions and uncertainty, a hollow feeling, that you could at one time fix by praying to Jehovah, an annoying confusion that you once had all the answers and now you know you didn't really have any, it was all just an illusion and the reality of it all has left you confounded and alone,

all I can do is try to Delete and restart ,

How do some of you cope with the reality of once having everything and now left alone and having to rebuild?