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  Did Watchtower get any money from the Holocaust Victim Assets Litigation?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the holocaust victim assets litigation (swiss banks) cv-96-4849 is a fund to compensate people suffering from the holocaust.

  as stated at swissbankclaims.com/index.asp (3 mar 2006);.

  "this is the official information website for the holocaust victim assets litigation against swiss banks and other swiss entities.

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  shepherdless

  I can't find the report I referred to in my earlier post. It was an attachment to a post on the JW Recovery site, which no longer exists.
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  I appreciate "our" free speech.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had given serious consideration too leaving the board.

  i rationalised my views on " muslims" we're not held by the majority so i should leave.

  but this would have been wrong thinking, instead i should appreciate the platform i was given to debate with free speech.

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  shepherdless

  Hi Rebel,

  I would be disappointed if you or anyone else left because they felt their opinion was in the minority. Further, I think these pages would be pretty boring if they were merely an echo chamber of one viewpoint.
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  Did Watchtower get any money from the Holocaust Victim Assets Litigation?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the holocaust victim assets litigation (swiss banks) cv-96-4849 is a fund to compensate people suffering from the holocaust.

  as stated at swissbankclaims.com/index.asp (3 mar 2006);.

  "this is the official information website for the holocaust victim assets litigation against swiss banks and other swiss entities.

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  shepherdless

  I thought I read a report a few years ago, giving quite a bit of detail about the actual distribution to the JW's who were victims. A surprisingly high proportion of the victims were from Eastern Europe, Ukraine, etc.

  I don't recall Watchtower itself getting any money. However, there was a paragraph in the report to the effect that Watchtower would only identify a victim for compensation if the victim was still a JW at the time money was being handed out (around year 2000). In other words, if a JW victim had DA'ed or was DF'ed after 1945, the JW victim got nothing.

  I am only going by memory, but there was definitely such a report and it was in the public domain somewhere. I will see if I can find it.
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  JW Wife not listening

  by rathernotsay in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey guys, looking for some advice with what to do with my jw wife that is simply ignoring my wishes/demands.

  first a little back story, we have been married for 6 years and have 3 children together.

  she is a jw, and i am not (nor do i have any religious beliefs).

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  shepherdless

  And one last thing; tell her she can't go into your "man cave" without a tea towel on her head.
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  JW Wife not listening

  by rathernotsay in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey guys, looking for some advice with what to do with my jw wife that is simply ignoring my wishes/demands.

  first a little back story, we have been married for 6 years and have 3 children together.

  she is a jw, and i am not (nor do i have any religious beliefs).

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  shepherdless

  Hi rathernotsay

  a also have a zealous JW wife trying to indoctrinate our kids. I also have never been a JW.

  My first comment is that you seem to be mixing JW issues with other issues you are having.

  It would seem to me that the first decision you have to make is whether you are going to stick with this girl. If you are going to break up, it would be better to get that part over with a.s.a.p., rather than let it drag out. In making that decision, remember that it is unlikely she will ever change the way she is; it is either cope with that, or leave.

  If you are going to stick it out, I would suggest that you tell her that she can do as much pioneering as she wants, as long as she continues looking after the kids. Try to make it her job to take the kids to any sport or after school activities. Ie don't challenge her religious beliefs, but don't let her avoid her responsibilities either. Make sure you keep control of the finances, as well.

  In relation to the non JW issues (throwing out your stuff, kid in bed etc), I have the impression from what you write (and I could be completely wrong) that you are calm and level headed, and try reasoning to persuade others of your point of view. Sometimes the only way to get the message through is to get (or feign) vocal anger to communicate something is not okay. It shouldn't be like that in the real world, but it is.

  The other thing to do is to "know the enemy", by reading sites such as this and jwfacts and learn as much about this religion as possible. It helps for dealing with your wife's friends and also in bringing up your kids.

  Finally, you would have read that the majority of kids brought up in this religion drop it as an adult. I have a suspicion that the drop out rate is much higher, if one of the parents is worldly, involved in bringing up the kids and is demonstrably a good person.

  I hope that helps.
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  Solar power

  by pepperheart in

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  hi its been on the bbc website that in the uk they got 25% of the power that the whole country needed for friday just from solar power alone.

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  shepherdless

  I used to joke that a solar panel was a photovoltaic device the converts short wave solar radiation into government subsidies.

  However, I don't think like that any more. Although technology has not changed much, if any, in at least thirty years, the costs of panels has dropped dramatically. The economics are complicated, but there is not much a need for artificial subsidy any more to make it worthwhile.
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  Church turns out to be sex club

  by oppostate in

  1. social
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  most churches can be thought of as social meeting places, a structure where congregations come together and share a common bond.

  a “church” in tennessee, though, has taken togetherness to a whole new level.

  nashville authorities say a building registered as a church has actually been hosting late-night swingers parties, where lewd acts have been taking place,.

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  shepherdless

  Feel the love!
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  The New terroists That The World have To Confront What is the Answer ?

  by smiddy in

  1. social
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  this latest attack in manchester u.k. targeting a venue attended by mainly children and teenagers who go to a concert by their favorite singer and then to be attacked by a terroist has to be the last straw... surely ?

  22 dead at last count mainly young girls enjoying a concert of their favourite singer ?

  and at least 50 others suffering injuries ?.

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  Freemindfade: Anti-ISIS is not = to anti-jihad

  Well, I don't want to oversimplify things, but basically the only groups doing or encouraging violent random attacks on Western civilians (essentially ISIS and Al Qaida) are Wahabbi Sunnis.

  There are Shiite groups on international terror lists, such as Hezbollah, but they don't attack Western civilians (except Israelis). They have used suicide bombers in the past, against military targets, but to my knowledge, not in the last couple of decades.

  I am only mentioning this, because it is a mistake to lump them all together. ISIS would absolutely LOVE it if we were to tar all Muslims the same, and make over a billion people our enemy.
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  The New terroists That The World have To Confront What is the Answer ?

  by smiddy in

  1. social
  2. current

  this latest attack in manchester u.k. targeting a venue attended by mainly children and teenagers who go to a concert by their favorite singer and then to be attacked by a terroist has to be the last straw... surely ?

  22 dead at last count mainly young girls enjoying a concert of their favourite singer ?

  and at least 50 others suffering injuries ?.

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  Thisismein1972: Yemen, being bombed on a daily basis by Saudi Arabia by the bombs Britain and the US have provided.

  I partially agree with some of your post, but that first part is wrong. To the extent ISIS would care, ISIS would be cheering each bomb KSA dropped on Shiite "infidels". The war in Yemen is to a large extent a war between Sunni and Shiite. Similarly, the war in Syria is primarily a war between Shiites and Alawites on one side, and various Sunni groups including ISIS on the other (with Kurds taking the opportunity to carve out some territory for themselves).
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  The New terroists That The World have To Confront What is the Answer ?

  by smiddy in

  1. social
  2. current

  this latest attack in manchester u.k. targeting a venue attended by mainly children and teenagers who go to a concert by their favorite singer and then to be attacked by a terroist has to be the last straw... surely ?

  22 dead at last count mainly young girls enjoying a concert of their favourite singer ?

  and at least 50 others suffering injuries ?.

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  shepherdless

  On page one of this thread:

  Stan livedeath: bearing in mind most islamist terrorists in the UK are " home grown", can anyone tell me what they are trying to achieve ?

  It doesn't seem anyone answered Stan's question. This is also what I struggle to understand.

  Some terror campaigns are successful in persuading an occupier of a region to leave, or a minority in a region to leave where that minority has somewhere else to go. There is no hope of this terror campaign achieving anything like that. It can only harden resolve against the terrorists.

  If there is any logic to why they do it (beyond the logic of the individual who believes he is going to get rewards in heaven), I think it is more a political statement to the world, that they exist and that they are powerful and frightening.

  As for the answer? I don't have a simple one at the moment. A lot of terrorist movements in the past have eventually just petered out. For example, in the 1970's there were a few Marxist terror groups around, all of who have disappeared, and some Arab nationalist terror groups that disappeared. (The only ones that lasted were ones that were also acting like mafia, using their network make financial gain.) So maybe continued thorough law enforcement will wear it down; I don't know.

  The other thing I notice is that virtually all recent Islamist terror seems to be from one sect of one branch of Islam. The second biggest branch of Islam (Shia) is every bit as anti-ISIS as the west is. Same could be said for other groups (Ibadi, Kurdish, etc). It is worth bearing that in mind.