Posts by Corney

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FAKE-NEWS.JW.ORG

by lastmanstanding in

the current “news” on jw.borg.

https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/.

look closely at he picture of “russian” police breaking in to what appears to be a utility shed.. first, you’d have to be a complete moron to believe anything you see.. the “police” are shown using a garden pic to open a door.

Corney

The authorities are prosecuting - and also intimidating, harassing and torturing - JWs merely for practicing their religion, not for any real, common crimes. This is a persecution. You probably shall use more all-caps and childish insults to provide a plausible justification for this state terrorism... and to prove that it obviously was a trio of elders.

peacefulpete,

Recent arrests of individuals has been explained by authorities as a result of local interpretation of anti-terrorism measures and not the intention of the central government.

I doubt they really have provided this explanation. Anyway, that persecution campaign is clearly centralized.

However, JWs have been determined to be an 'extremist group' due to the deadly consequences of its blood policy and family negation in cases of disfellowshipping. That has been the justification of seizure of property of the WT and banning of open proselytizing.

False. The main stated reason was "Oh, their literature contains bad things about other religions". There were virtually zero mentions of shunning, and very few mentions of blood transfusion. Finally, the ban isn't limited to seizure of property and prohibition of open proselytism.

JWs are supposedly permitted to identify as JWs and meet with others if the meetings are public and not secret.

False and illogical.

The Fall Guy,

R&F JW's are used as pawns & cannon fodder by the Wizards of Warwick and will be instructed to ignore the ban on the literature.

Yep, that's why the Russian branch office advised JWs - long before the ban - to destroy all the banned literature in their possession and why cops had to plant it.

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Question from yesterdays persecution article...

by JW_Rogue in

what are you resolved to do if under ban?.

i wonder how many people were thinking about how that would be a great excuse to leave!

finally, a good out, you were just too afraid of the persecution.

Corney

road to nowhere They forgot to mention the money laundering part in Russia

Yep, they forgot to mention the money laundering committed in your imagination. That's scandalous.

51

FAKE-NEWS.JW.ORG

by lastmanstanding in

the current “news” on jw.borg.

https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/.

look closely at he picture of “russian” police breaking in to what appears to be a utility shed.. first, you’d have to be a complete moron to believe anything you see.. the “police” are shown using a garden pic to open a door.

Corney

Your accusations are ridiculous and pathetic.

As to some particular claims:

- actually, you were the first one who used the word "obvious(ly)" in this thread, and the only one who used it incorrectly;

- there is a difference between hating, criticizing or disliking someone or something and being blinded by hate;

- the Russian JWs are suffering because the government persecutes them;

- the video published by police looks fake because faces are blurred? Seriously?

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FAKE-NEWS.JW.ORG

by lastmanstanding in

the current “news” on jw.borg.

https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/.

look closely at he picture of “russian” police breaking in to what appears to be a utility shed.. first, you’d have to be a complete moron to believe anything you see.. the “police” are shown using a garden pic to open a door.

Corney

You are obviously possessed by hatred. I don't know how else to explain this moronic, hysterical post.

As to the source of the picture, it's available on a government site here / alternative link (watch the second video).

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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow

by Corney in

the montana case enters the home stretch.

the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).

an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).

Corney

It's streaming now (video)!

http://stream.vision.net/MT-gov/

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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow

by Corney in

the montana case enters the home stretch.

the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).

an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).

Corney

Some updates

The hearing will start at 12 PM (not AM) NY time. Mea culpa.

It apparently will be streamed audio only.

Mark O'Donnell will be there; check his Facebook and Twitter profiles for updates.

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Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow

by Corney in

the montana case enters the home stretch.

the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).

an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).

Corney

The Montana case enters the home stretch. The state Supreme Court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 September, at the Northern Hotel in Billings during the State Bar of Montana’s Annual Meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2). An introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. UTC, 9 a.m. SF time, 12 a.m. NY time, 5 p.m. London time, 2 a.m. Saturday Sydney time). The hearing will be streamed online here: http://stream.vision.net/MT-gov/

Background (according to the Court's site):

In 2004, two congregants informed the Elders of the Thompson Falls Congregation that congregant Maximo Reyes had sexually abused them when they were children. The Thompson Falls Elders contacted the Elders at the Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses and the legal department at Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. (Watchtower) for advice. Per the advice they received, the Thompson Falls Elders kept the matter confidential and did not report it to authorities.
Beginning in 2002, Reyes began to sexually abuse his step-granddaughter, who also attended services at the Thompson Falls Kingdom Hall, often accompanied by Reyes. In 2016, Reyes’ step-granddaughter filed this complaint, alleging Defendants had failed to report abuse as mandated by § 41-3-201(2)(h), and that Defendants were liable for the harm she suffered from Reyes’ abuse after they were told of Reyes abusing other children. The District Court found the Defendants liable for her harm as a matter of law. A jury awarded her compensatory damages of $4 million and punitive damages of $31 million. The District Court upheld the punitive damages award upon review.
On appeal, Defendants argue that: the District Court erred in finding Defendants liable as a matter of law; the jury’s award of punitive damages is not justified; the District Court erred in upholding punitive damages in excess of the statutory cap; and the punitive damages against Defendant Watchtower violates the U.S. Constitution.

Case page: https://courts.mt.gov/Portals/189/orders/caseInfo.html?id=DA%2019-0077

Watchtower's opening brief: https://juddocumentservice.mt.gov/getDocByCTrackId?DocId=274396

Plaintiff's response brief: https://juddocumentservice.mt.gov/getDocByCTrackId?DocId=280757

Watchtower's reply brief: https://juddocumentservice.mt.gov/getDocByCTrackId?DocId=284155

Montana Attorney General's brief (defending constitutionality of the state's $10 million punitive damages cap): https://juddocumentservice.mt.gov/getDocByCTrackId?DocId=285206

Trial transript: http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/nunezvwatchtower.pdf

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Criminal Investigation of Australian Bethel Underway?

by Room 215 in

the italian language ex-jw site testimoni di geova consapevoli published an article reporting that the aussie bethel is under investigation by the same team that brought down the catholic cardinal pell (currently in prison).

the site's editor, eliseo, occasionally posts here.. has anyone down under heard of this?

.

Corney

So, this Italian guy claims he has a source in Australian law enforcement. And according to that source, Victoria Police (that investigated and prosecuted cardinal Pell) is investigating Watchtower and it will raid the Bethel - that is located in New South Wales - this Friday. How plausible is it?

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Watchtower reveals some property stats - incomplete but interesting

by Corney in

interesting screenshots of internal wt databases appear in the 2018 coordinators' committee report video (that's in fact a presentation of their hub software) at 6:34-6:50. they contain, among others, the following information:.

there are 61,349 kingdom halls and 841 assembly halls;.

4,308 properties are held for sale, including 2,925 khs;.

Corney

Nowhere does the Watchtower say that the screenshots of the HuB database is accurate or just a mock presentation, so there is no representation to say these are real figures.

Agree

The figure for USA is 8,196 congregations, 861,575 publishers 116,629 pioneers
The figure for Canada is 962 congregations, 84,831 publishers, 7,945 pioneers

There are 13,016 congregations in the US and 1,402 ones in Canada. I think the data you cited are incomplete. I guess only, say, English-speaking congregations are included in those numbers. How else to explain incredibly low numbers for Haiti (1 congregation and 48 publishers), Dominican Republic (7 and 351) and Puerto Rico (14 and 906)?

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Watchtower reveals some property stats - incomplete but interesting

by Corney in

interesting screenshots of internal wt databases appear in the 2018 coordinators' committee report video (that's in fact a presentation of their hub software) at 6:34-6:50. they contain, among others, the following information:.

there are 61,349 kingdom halls and 841 assembly halls;.

4,308 properties are held for sale, including 2,925 khs;.

Corney

Interesting screenshots of internal WT databases appear in the 2018 Coordinators' Committee Report video (that's in fact a presentation of their HuB software) at 6:34-6:50. They contain, among others, the following information:

there are 61,349 Kingdom Halls and 841 Assembly Halls;

4,308 properties are held for sale, including 2,925 KHs;

1,473 properties have been sold in 2017 and 2018 service years;

784 KH property purchases and 1,130 new KH projects are in progress.

Two things need to be mentioned:

I found this info here;

of course, it should be taken with a grain of salt.