The Bible also says that "Faith without works is dead" so this is one of those cases were the Bible "clearly doesn't contradict itself."
Saethydd
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So according to the bible, "believing" is enough to have everlasting life.
by NikL ini am certain this has been brought up many times before.
according to john 6.... 44 no man can come to me unless the father, who sent me, draws him,+ and i will resurrect him on the last day.+ 45 it is written in the prophets: ‘they will all be taught by jehovah.+ everyone who has listened to the father and has learned comes to me.
46 not that any man has seen the father,+ except the one who is from god; this one has seen the father.+ 47 most truly i say to you, whoever believes has everlasting life.+.
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Were You Ever Disfellowshipped or Judicially Reproved?
by minimus ini never got into trouble with the elders.
i served on judicial committees too many times.
i am happy that i no longer have to "judge" whether someone is a "sinner" any longer!
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Saethydd
I've been before two, the first time I was reproved, the second I was disfellowshipped even though I came to the brothers of my own accord after all probability of being caught had passed. Guess that isn't considered a sign of true repentance.
Funnilly enough, the disfellowshiping did help me have a change of heart, just not the one they were banking on.
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Pretend to honour principles, but make laws instead!
by doubtfull1799 inthis from the latest watchtower question from readers:.
"how a christian chooses to protect him- self, his family, or his possessions is, of course, largely a personal matter, as is his choice of employment.
that said, bible principles reflect god’s wisdom and his love for us.
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Saethydd
Also, judiciary committees are given a long detailed list of what a person can be disfellowshipped for, and what they can be reproved for, effectively creating their own law book. A book which rank and file Witnesses aren't allowed to read even upon request.
So they have essentially done the same thing Jesus faulted the Pharisees for doing. They have taken it upon themselves to take simple principles and rigorously define what behavior does and does not conform to those principles, and then they've gone even further outside their rights and started disciplining their fellow Christians for not living up to their defined standards for what it means to live by those principles.
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Writing a "Thesis on Doubting the Watchtower"
by Saethydd ini'm currently writing what i've decided to call a "thesis on doubting the watchtower," and was wondering if you guys could help me out a bit with the research.
my plan is to use it as a sort of personal reference.
if any of you could help me find the publications i'm looking for i would appreciate it.. as things stand i need:.
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Saethydd
Have you not got anything more interesting to do?
Seriously, life and spare time are short - use it to do something interesting!
That is a valid question. I suppose my best answer would be that I'm doing this for my own peace of mind. This way I can know that my current beliefs are based on facts, I can satisfy my own skeptical outlook and never be rightfully accused of not fairly weighing my own beliefs.
That to me is worth the time I spend on this project.
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Amazing Video, modern-day miracle: "Chairs for Thousands"
by neat blue dog ingod provides.
https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodourorganization/pub-jwb_201703_4_video.
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Saethydd
I'd love to see Cedars do a piece on this on Youtube
It was part of the March Broadcast so he put it in his video about that.
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No screenshots of jw.org?
by charity7 inhey guys!
saw this posted on social media and was wondering (super curious) what this was about?
i was reading the comments and many people were saying that we need to be obedient because the end is coming?
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Saethydd
I'm not sure what they are referencing, but if it's real I would say it's probably a copyright measure meant to keep "apostates" from using the Watchtower's words against them.
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Writing a "Thesis on Doubting the Watchtower"
by Saethydd ini'm currently writing what i've decided to call a "thesis on doubting the watchtower," and was wondering if you guys could help me out a bit with the research.
my plan is to use it as a sort of personal reference.
if any of you could help me find the publications i'm looking for i would appreciate it.. as things stand i need:.
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Saethydd
Hi,
Send me an email and I can help you with your #1 request.
You will find my email at:
http://www.jwstudies.com/contact_me.html
Two of the versions I have cite the dates of the elders' letters.
Doug
Okay, sent you an email.
I have and read copies of the transcripts from some of the court cases that were settled in USA, and some mention something like that, though they are court cases, so I guess that they did in fact speak up. Will that help?
Sure, can you send me a copy or a link to the copies? Also, do they have any sort of authentic seal so I can be fairly sure the transcripts weren't just made up?
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Atheism = self defeating.
by towerwatchman inatheism = self defeating.
first may we define our terms.
the word atheism comes literally from the greek, alpha the negative and theos [for god], therefore “negative god” or there is no god.
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Saethydd
Theism is guilty of what you are accusing Atheism of doing. Theists tend to argue that God is necessary because intelligent life must have an innate purpose and/or creator. However, God, if he existed, would be an intelligent being which has no innate purpose and/or creator, rather, he is to have decided his own purpose after spending an eternity doing... something. Talking to himself perhaps.
How can you know that humans aren't simply the first intelligent beings in this chain of purpose? At least humans can be proven to exist with a relative degree of certainty.
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Is time moving faster?
by Fisherman indo you get the feeling that time is moving faster?
what do you think?.
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Saethydd
As we get older each second, minute, hour, day, month, year, and decade becomes a smaller and smaller fraction of our entire experienced life, so yes, in a way, the speed of time relative to your personal perception is constantly getting faster.
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Writing a "Thesis on Doubting the Watchtower"
by Saethydd ini'm currently writing what i've decided to call a "thesis on doubting the watchtower," and was wondering if you guys could help me out a bit with the research.
my plan is to use it as a sort of personal reference.
if any of you could help me find the publications i'm looking for i would appreciate it.. as things stand i need:.
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Saethydd
I'm currently writing what I've decided to call a "Thesis on Doubting the Watchtower," and was wondering if you guys could help me out a bit with the research. My plan is to use it as a sort of personal reference. If any of you could help me find the publications I'm looking for I would appreciate it.
As things stand I need:
1. PDF of "Shepherd the Flock of God" 2010 (And if anyone has the knowledge necessary to vouch for the authenticity of the PDF I'd appreciate that too.)
2. The Elder's letter that accompanied the above book.
3. I have heard many stories of child abuse cases in which the victim was discouraged from reporting the crime to the authorities, is anyone aware any previously written instruction to this effect?
4. An article in which Watchtower denounces another religion for its hierarchy.(Found it, "g76 9/8 27 Are Clergy-Laity Distinctions Scriptural?")5. An article in which they directly criticize another religion for mishandling child sex abuse cases.
All right, those are the only ones I have come to at the moment. A shall continue to post anything that I'm having trouble finding as my thesis progresses.