Posts by caves

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Questions for the Teaching of "Jehovah's Witnesses"

by Sergey Antonov in

jw
friends

it would be interesting to know what prompted you to leave the organization?

what questions did the elders fail to answer?

(maybe there is already a similar discussion, i apologize in advance)..

caves

@Sergey Antonov- What questions did the elders fail to answer?

Rev 10:9 -10 9 So I went to the angel and asked him to give me the little scroll. He said to me, “Take it and eat it. It will turn your stomach sour, but ‘in your mouth it will be as sweet as honey.’[a]” 10 I took the little scroll from the angel’s hand and ate it. It tasted as sweet as honey in my mouth,but when I had eaten it, my stomach turned sour. 11 Then I was told, “You must prophesy again about many peoples, nations, languages and kings.”

So the scripture I quoted made no sense with the question you asked. Its the same with the elders. Out of context,off topic and weird.

Sergey Antonov-It would be interesting to know what prompted you to leave the organization?

Everything.

I might have gone to a convention if they had free sandwiches again. I was going to go check it out this year to see how many changes , but once I found that they dont serve food anymore, whats the point? Certainly the 'spiritual food' offered is nothing but a "vacuum in time and space" so I would want a sandwich on their dime. I paid plenty for a sandwich and I should have one to put up with false teachings.

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Dirt Fishing - Latest Coin Finds

by cofty in

it's that time of year again when i can get back on the fields with the metal detector looking for ancient stuff.

the first field to be harvested was full of peas - ideal as it leaves no stubble and it's a two minute walk from my house.

it has given up two coins in two visits this week.. the first one is a cut-half silver penny from the reign of henry ii.

caves

So very cool ! Im looking forward to your next find.

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Comedy

by caves in

i like to watch stand up comedy and comedy clips.

do you have favorite comedians or skits ect?

https://youtu.be/5lgeiil1__s.

caves

@dubstepped, I looked up Jim Gaffigan for the first time. He is super funny.

https://youtu.be/6YDTfEhChgw

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Comedy

by caves in

i like to watch stand up comedy and comedy clips.

do you have favorite comedians or skits ect?

https://youtu.be/5lgeiil1__s.

caves

@Giordano - LOL, one of my favorites.

Heres Kurt Metzger on Comedy Central doing stand up about growing up jw.

https://youtu.be/cHjh6Dupolk

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Comedy

by caves in

i like to watch stand up comedy and comedy clips.

do you have favorite comedians or skits ect?

https://youtu.be/5lgeiil1__s.

caves

I like to watch Stand Up Comedy and Comedy Clips. Do you have favorite Comedians or skits ect?

https://youtu.be/5LGEiIL1__s

https://youtu.be/a-C9q-Na6_w

https://youtu.be/bPPqE-MA7Mo

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In a trance

by bola in

my personal experience.

i was born as jehovah's witness.. i was baptized at the age of 10.. i was reproved at the age of 10.. i later served as a regular pioneer at the age of 16.. i woke up to the truth about the truth at the age of 17.. i attended my pioneer service school at the age of 18.. i disassociated from the jehovah's witness religion at the age of 19.. i went to higher education at the age of 21..

caves

Sorry to comment straight away but I just noticed the title again "In a trance". Thats a heavy telling statement of where Bola is mentally with an equally heavy topic. Just saying.

Ive been there.

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In a trance

by bola in

my personal experience.

i was born as jehovah's witness.. i was baptized at the age of 10.. i was reproved at the age of 10.. i later served as a regular pioneer at the age of 16.. i woke up to the truth about the truth at the age of 17.. i attended my pioneer service school at the age of 18.. i disassociated from the jehovah's witness religion at the age of 19.. i went to higher education at the age of 21..

caves

I have no idea if its trolling or made up.(gut feeling...not a troll, shy I think) I am.But I may be projecting. I doubt it.

But I will share some of my experience that matches his and the reason for me personally I am hesitant about spreading it online for all to see.

I was reproved at 11, almost 12.

Baptized a few days after I turned 11.

Molested from 4-10 1/2 years old by MS grandfather. Who blamed me for wearing my underwear in a sexy way. Yep, my funky ole 'fruit of the loom'. Nothing like being in a room of three elders asking me the most inappropriate questions ever! They did NOT want to hear how I had been groomed. Just the pornographic details. I never understood why I had to pay that price. And never will. / He also molested his daughter the same age as me at the same time period. Grandmother had a very late child. Anyway nothing happened to her his daughter.

There is ALOT more to the story ,but 2 things about being hesitant to open and share. At early 20 something I read CoC and I was so traumatized by EVERYTHING if this site was around then I would not have been able to share my story. No way. To fast, to embarrassing and some of us have to work out a great deal of cult indoctrinated paranoia. Not only that but sometimes stigmatized by exjws if they had a decent upbringing except learning TTATT, and "waking up" based on those facts and not being Jolted awake and slammed on the floor with the ground then ripped away and free floating. With NO ONE.

The second thing is if Im going into the nitty gritty details that will fully make everything connect and be crystal clear with all the details, that will take awhile. If you demand I do then I demand you give me money for my horrible story that Im the one that gets to sit there with all the emotional mess and emotional clean up whilst others sit and read it or listen.

Frankly I would have disappeared after I posted something like the OP did and was scared and got the validity of my story questioned straight out the gate. In fact its a little triggering to type this due to that fact.

After being invalidated at such a young age, learning TTATT then go online for support and get the "are you for real , treatment would send me away."

Also what if OP does not have constant internet access. So many variable and things to consider.

At the end of it, I hope Bola is well. I hope he comes to terms with what looks like to me to be fear and confusion. I know a thing or two about that when it comes to this seemly more common story than I ever wanted to know.

@bola if your reading, we just wanted to understand more. Thats really all it was. Take your time. Go at your own pace. You dont have to answer anything you dont feel comfortable with.

To others here from me- I joined an ex jwsite ten years ago(cant even remember the name of it and I was horrible at computers) and was run off (by accident) in near the exact same manner. It scared me back then so I never went back.

I wish I would have stayed. Maybe my life would be further along. Whos to say.

Also Love for family will make people do strange desperate things.

Pardon my soap box.

just trying to help someone maybe.

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Zombie dubs

by lastmanstanding in

i recently was on a job with the cobe and i would like to relate this experience.

it goes to show how unthink these zombies have become.. during working, the cobe asks me “did you see that couple that died in the eritrean prison, the brother and his wife?”.

i replied that i had not seen anything like that.

caves

"It was completely obvious that he had not read the story but was just trying to sound smart and spiritual and holy."

It seems the higher up you go in the borg the more this happens. I wonder why?

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What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

by flipper in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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caves

https://youtu.be/Ayyy-03ITDg

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A Fantasy I Have To Protest Cart Witnessing

by Wild_Thing in

jw
friends

i am not a protester and i hate confrontation, but i have always thought it would be hilarious to set up a kool-aid stand right next to the jw carts and sell purple kool-aid.

i wonder how many would get the joke?.

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caves

I would be down to set up with someone else near them and satirically copy them( slight change in spelling/ meaning and pics). I would want "our cart" to mimic almost every thing verbatim except have funny, dry, satirical articles in what was in our cart. Pick an emotional topic like "why do we die?' . Inside the "The LightTower" and "Aware" it would address the topic on the front page in the articles with lots of quick easy to grasp scientific data (verified data) of how everything does die. Use the similar bible verses to show how "faithful" people have died with gods approval for 1000s of years. And in a funny, dry humor way, describe how our bodies being forced to stay perfect forever would be horrific. Fun with the names of 'Publications'... "What the bible can't and can teach us"...."An introduction to Gods word, Our way"...."When someone you love is sexually abused in the hall" (picturing an actual hallway) ... "Youths- What will you do with your life? McDonalds or Wendys"... "Lasting Peace and Cognitive Dissonance, How to find them? ..."My Book of Governing Body Storys"...."Examining the Governing Body- Daily"... Videos and movies- "Remember the Daughters of Lot" ... "Keep the Pace- by standing still at your cart"...

I would want to dress in a suit. Be very calm and nice never acknowledging that the jws were there.

And of course they'd come over when they see you because you'd look just like them...with a cart and very similar looking literature. Could make a loudish phone call if not , pretending to call my local 'elder' asking if I was sent to the wrong spot "as it seems other "Cart" members are here. Without ever going to talk/ nor engaging in talk, to them or making eye contact.

That would freak their shit out. lol.

It would be hard for me to not laugh. Or vomit. Both LOL.