Posts by caves

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A Cult Tactic: Removing Guilt By Dehumanising Others

by pale.emperor in

in the real world, very few parents would disown their own children simply because they read a magazine that told them to do it.

very few people would forever completely ignore their own parents because an elder got up on a platform one day and announced that they no longer follow the same religion as you.. in the real world it just doesn't happen.

and yet, for 8 million jehovah's witnesses it's very a normal part of their world to treat "other people" differently than they'd treat each other.

caves

oneeyedjoe- I'm really confused by your post. You're the last person I would've expected to have such a drastic misunderstanding of what PE was trying to do with his post that I find it difficult not to think that you either didn't read it or that you're intentionally trolling.

Well Simon cant cuddle and burp us all.

I found his comment off putting but also count it as a guard against sensationalism. Where this post could easily go. (or might still go)

I agree with just about everything everyone has said here viewing it through multiple lenses. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

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What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

by flipper in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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caves

https://youtu.be/6FJ7F6trvBc

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"Psychiatrist is an Admission of Defeat"

by new boy in

jw
friends

“the christian witnesses of jehovah are the best oriented, happiest and most contended group of people on the face of the earth.

so why on earth would any good follower need the help of a mental health professional?” the society tells about the evils of seeking help from outside their organization.

"as a rule, for a christian to go to a worldly psychiatrist is an admission of defeat.

caves

One of the reasons I hardly ever brought it up in therapy. When I have, they have not 'gotten it'. Why bother.

Ive been the one educating the therapist on it. I should get paid , not the other way around.

New therapy coming.

Also I have made leaps and bounds in my mind in 4-5 months on this site than a decade of therapy.

Much thanks to the owner of this site and many many others here. You have all done what no therapist I have seen has been able to do. YOU ROCK!

144

Asylum Caravan

by dubstepped in

alright, so what is the deal with the thousands coming to the states right at election time seeking asylum?

i'm not up on this, usually try not to be, but how can this not be manipulative?

it's either manipulative in the size of the group and pressure that creates, or in where it started or who started this, etc.

caves

Hyped up media bullsh#@.

On both sides.

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A Cult Tactic: Removing Guilt By Dehumanising Others

by pale.emperor in

in the real world, very few parents would disown their own children simply because they read a magazine that told them to do it.

very few people would forever completely ignore their own parents because an elder got up on a platform one day and announced that they no longer follow the same religion as you.. in the real world it just doesn't happen.

and yet, for 8 million jehovah's witnesses it's very a normal part of their world to treat "other people" differently than they'd treat each other.

caves

Simon- It doesn't really come anywhere close to the barbarism that has happened in history.

Considering that the number of disfellowshipped per year is around 30,000 or abouts since the 80's thats over a million people, Id say its comparable.

I highly doubt an ex jdubs life would be completely destroyed over not being invited to family bbq.

Edit: comparable was a bad choice of wording on my part. It doesnt compare to mass killing off of entire lots of people.

Am grumpy this morning.

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What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

by flipper in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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caves

https://youtu.be/JRWox-i6aAk

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Funny ex-jw memes

by Apostate Anonymous in

backstory:.

so my born-in cousin who recently left the org is looking to start an ex-jw / group instagram based in socal.

he asked me if i had any ideas for a photo that can used for the instagram page and this is what i made for him:.

caves

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Funny ex-jw memes

by Apostate Anonymous in

backstory:.

so my born-in cousin who recently left the org is looking to start an ex-jw / group instagram based in socal.

he asked me if i had any ideas for a photo that can used for the instagram page and this is what i made for him:.

caves

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Wacky Baccy Eh! Cannabis Now Legal in Canada

by Simon in

so canada has legalized pot / marijuana / cannabis and you can go to stores today and buy some.

the local news is covering it here in calgary with crowds of thousands expected at one of only 2 stores licensed in the city but last i saw, there were only 7 people in the line so who knows how popular it will be.

i imagine all the people who really wanted to get it could already get it easily so this is more about expanding the market to new users who will be less inclined to queue for hours on day 1.. apparently you'll also be able to purchase online with discreet delivery by canada post.

caves

I'm in favor.

I live in a state were it is legal. I have heard SO many stories from folks that have kicked pharmaceuticals because of Cannabis.

The dealers- I knew (past tense) several marijuana dealers when it was illegal. Its cheaper at the dispensary now than it was when it was illegal here. Much to my own amusement because this one dude I knew thought he was big stuff until it was legalized. Then he had to get a real job because he couldn't compete.

The town Im closest to has a population of 18,000 people. There are 24 dispensaries in that small town. The only thing that really changed here was the local marijuana dealers went out of business.

I cant believe how many grandmas I see going into the dispensaries. That is a funny site to me.

It ought to be interesting to see how it goes for Canada.

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Epiphany #2

by Solzhenitsyn in

so after much emotional struggle out into the open comes why my dear wife continues to want to stay with the wt organization.. i simply couldn't understand why someone so intelligent would suffer from such confusion wether to stay active or fade away when she has faced and accepted the anti-jw facts.

simply put: she was raised with such sick instability that jw life was the only thing that provided stability, the only thing she felt she could count on.

to this day this remains the primary reason she stays "in".

caves

Solzhenitsyn- She was raised with such sick instability that JW life was the only thing that provided stability, the only thing she felt she could count on.

Hmm.... thats a tough one.

Professional counseling if she is willing.

Find things you both can do together that is fun and fill your time with that.

Surprise her with something awesome that requires you to go somewhere on a meeting night, just every so often to start. Perhaps that might make your wife feel even more 'safe and stable' with you, and 'stable' within her own skin.

Find books on childhood trauma and abandonment issues ect, read them and leave them laying around.

Perhaps, patience and sticking to your guns in a way that is loving will accelerate the process.