Thanks and take care .
Maybe in time we can all enjoy Petra's coffee and cakes again .
you are what she wanted to be!please, let us remove any blame to anyone right up front.
what happened to petra was not the fault of mark o'donnell, listener, corney, mike and kim, or anyone else.. constant rejection and shunning even at an early age, the depression was storing up inside of her.
she was shunned inside the hall and outside the hall.
Thanks and take care .
Maybe in time we can all enjoy Petra's coffee and cakes again .
volcano eruptions and tsunamis kill at large scale and very often, without warning.
how do believers explain these away?
jehovah's witnesses say that humans die and suffer due to the original sin, but what do volcano's and tsunamis have to do with it?
Because of man's sin and their continue rebellious attitude leading to the flood ,god withdrawal of his protection regarding the earth (even though he declared his creation as good) and that's why we now get earthquake etc .
That how I recall it being explained might be old light now .
hello all interested persons,.
whilst driving to work this morning listening to the radio, my ears pricked when the presenter began talking about jws.
it was on a programme which airs between 8.00 and 8.30 entitled am, and broadcast on the abc national radio.
We also have to remember the victims and survivors of this terrible situation and how this must be affecting their mental health because the org wouldn't join and the Australian government has given them extra time to join the redress scheme .
A kind and loving organisation NOT.
in a recent feel-good instagram post about the 2019 international convention, a jw remarked, "was it the last convention we will have?".
there is no doubt jw's feel they are truly special and that world events revolve around them directly.
there is also no doubt that whether we get a vaccine for covid or not, and at the moment, its looking very certain that we will, that the world will continue to spin and life will go on, regardless of the beliefs of the jw's.. once the pandemic is over i'm wondering if some jw's will realise that even though they lived through a notable period of time, life kept sailing on, and maybe they aren't that special after all?
As ALIVE said
And then the celebrity 8 and their helpers can do all the online talks etc and get all the praise and glory and then they can get dressed up and put their badges on in their own homes and have the best convention ever .
i`m thinking of times when the jw organization has been hypocritical in their beliefs / practices .
they make sure they are no part of christendom in any way shape or form ,the understanding the r&f have of the organization.. the r&f members are not to have any dealings with christendoms religions in business or otherwise.. but what does the jw organization do ?
they sell watchtower property to christendoms churches for profit .. the r&f are to be separate from the world and call the league of nations and it`s successor the united nations the counterfeit kingdom of god ,the abhorrent thing standing in the place of god ?.
The disfellowshiping policy they were critical of the Catholic church for their policy of excommunication and that it was a practice of Pagans , yet now it's part of the way of life to JWs.
That they expect the human rights of JWs to be upheld that they can practice their religion with freedom of abuse and persecution .
But they ignore the human rights of those who choose not to be part of their religion and they are happy to shun and disfellowshiped ones who make that choice.
the following institutions named in the royal commission and/or an application have not yet joined or signified their intent to join the scheme:.
jehovah’s witnesses .
among others i have not named as i`m only concerned about the jw`s on this forum .
Compensate the victims and survivors and have them make a public apology in the media and on JW.org .
Has ARC and all the media coverage has it affected the number of active JWs in Australia ?
they finally sold the kingdom hall in sedona az.. the funny thing is the unity church of sedona bought it.
i like the unity people, they believe in loving everyone no matter what.
whatever you want to believe is fine by them.. is the planet changing?
And a kingdom song being allowed on a interfaith album and to be toured next year to Babylon the great churches in the UK .
this topics get a great deal of discussion here.
what i find interesting is even some of my pimi family is embracing the reality that all is not well with jw.org and that many current jws are just going through the motions due to not having a good way out of the org.
wondering what could realistically lead to the collapse of jw.org in the not distant future?
It will be a slow decline ,Cong's I have been in about 1/3 are 65 + in age so in the next 10-15 the number will decline because of natural course and as born ins are leaving in their droves and others wake up because of the internet and the exposure of the falsehoods and lawsuit's the numbers will probably half in the next 10-15 years.
Then only half the money or those that are left will have to pay double.
the pure worship book will be 'studied' at the weekly jw 'congregation bible study' starting next week.
anyone 'lucky' enough to attend might like to consider my review of the book for some salient points in the coming weeks.... .
Many thanks started to read it very well reasoned and the effort you have put into finding the facts.
Should be called "Gaslighting worship " Ezekiel . with all lies and exaggerate of what really did take place and the timeline's.
Thanks again
we had a letter read in our cong.
last week that said the public wt and awake would be delayed during the beginning of 2021. meaning we would just use the 2020 version into 2021 and there would be no new ones at the beginning of 2021 until an undetermined time sometime during the 1st half of 2021. at least that is the gist that i remember.
it was in what atlantis provided but there was no further detail....very brief.. any more intel or speculation on this?
Armageddon coming early next spring so shouldn't have bought those longlife battery's .