Posts by Clambake

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Stupid Organization!

by stillin in

a while back, a local witness lost their home in a fire.

an announcement was made at the meeting that if anybody wanted to contribute, they could do so through their service group overseer.

my guess is that this arrangement is meant to bring tears of joy to the eyes of the impoverished one, and thankfulness to "jehovah's organization.

Clambake

There is a reason the false religions of Christendom actually pass the plate. I am not even sure if it got him a tank of gas to get to the next hall.

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the scientific method begins with a faith statement called a hypothesis, and then goes on to look for evidence, for or against support of the faith statement.. secular materialists often change their ideas on exactly how things have made themselves, but never whether they did.. the manifesto for this self imposed mental ban seems to be summed up by geneticist richard lewontin:.

‘our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural.

we take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.. it is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated.

Clambake

Hey Cofty

See how annoying it is when people pretend to be scientists. I hope he ends up doing an entire series on the subject.

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Stupid Organization!

by stillin in

a while back, a local witness lost their home in a fire.

an announcement was made at the meeting that if anybody wanted to contribute, they could do so through their service group overseer.

my guess is that this arrangement is meant to bring tears of joy to the eyes of the impoverished one, and thankfulness to "jehovah's organization.

Clambake

I remember one time we had a CO visit and we took a special collection for the visit and about 30 dubs gave him a grand total of 52 dollars.

I laughed hard when I found that out.

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Death of a loved one and faith

by ilikecheese in

jw
friends

hey all.

i haven't posted in forever and a day, but i feel like this is a great place to ask this question because of so many people who are unsure of their beliefs.

my mom was diagnosed with stage four breast cancer about four years ago.

Clambake

I know this isn't a very popular thing to say I do like to study NDEs. I know a lot of it is fake but man there sure seems to be a lot of weird things going on out there.

Maybe I just want to believe but it gives me hope in a strange way.

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Relative going full retard JW.org

by biometrics in

jw
friends

a relative has gone full-retard with jw.org on facebook.

every post is something to do with going to bethel or pioneering overseas.. the catalyst for this full-retard behavior seems to be a recent marriage breakdown (both jw's).

and the fact he was caught trying to embezzle an elderly relative's live savings.

Clambake

I find it odd the Jehovah Witnesses I know don't have any trace of even being on a JW on their FB pages.

Man, the ones who go full retard with it.................LOL. Watch out

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Theism is a Fact #1

by cofty in

nope sorry i got nothing.. wouldn't it be really interesting though if somewhere there was a theist who could challenge unbelievers with facts and evidence?.

Clambake

The self-congratulatory tone of this thread has me thinking more than a few of you might be missing the old KH.

LOL

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Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

by paul from cleveland in

is it just me?

Clambake

So you think 6000 to 10000 years is a long period of time now ?

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Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

by paul from cleveland in

is it just me?

Clambake

Do you know what Alchemy is ?

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Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

by paul from cleveland in

is it just me?

Clambake

You just basically repeated exactly what I said and how I find that an unsatisfactory answer.

Dawkins believes all the mysteries of the universe with enough time will be solved and prove there is no such thing as god. Its a leap of faith. His is a science theist.

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Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

by paul from cleveland in

is it just me?

Clambake

I have listened to some of Richard Dawkins debates and when asked about the qualities that make us as human (creativity, personality, abstract thinking, and moral judgment) he always turns into a theist.

“Just because we don’t know today doesn’t mean science won’t figure it out in the future “.

I have that answer quite unsettling. No amount of copy and paste about our DNA or common ancestor and whatever which change the fact in a relatively short period of time or milli-second in evolutionary terms can explain who one species went from cave paintings to putting a man on the moon.