i was just thinking about something someone said on another thread.
to paraphrase, 'jw beliefs like there being no hellfire, immortal soul, the condition at death...have the ring of truth.'.
i realized, atheists believe these things too!.
It's funny how when a jehovah witness talks about dying for god over a blood transfusion, it's quite sad how the whole belief could change in a heart beat over seven magical men having a vision or some shit like that.
I think when you have a faith that values obedience to human leadership over everything and salvation though works , you are not really dealing with the supernatural diests you think.
Thus the reason there are so many athiest in wts.
how credible are nwt's critiques?
: allin and john 8:58.a few weeks ago we had a discussion surrounding john 8.58. the posters in this forum offered various views in regards to jesus' divine role in scripture.
occasionally, some scholars publish articles where they voice their opinion against the nwt theological renderings.
Read the entire the book and chapter . If you can't figure out the author intent you are absolutely retarded.
Christian theology isn't based on fighting over single verses or arguing over indefinite articles etc etc.
i was just thinking about something someone said on another thread.
to paraphrase, 'jw beliefs like there being no hellfire, immortal soul, the condition at death...have the ring of truth.'.
i realized, atheists believe these things too!.
"This may surprise you, but most atheists don't give two-shits about what you believe. All they want is for you to keep it to yourself."
Yet you are here making threads. Do you see the irony ?
i was just thinking about something someone said on another thread.
to paraphrase, 'jw beliefs like there being no hellfire, immortal soul, the condition at death...have the ring of truth.'.
i realized, atheists believe these things too!.
JW
-Puts faith in complex bamboozles that they don’t really understand.
-Idol worships men
-Mocks anyone who doesn’t believe in exactly what they believe
-Never misses an opportunity to tell someone how they feel about religion.
-Both make mockery of god and bible.
-Both for long of day when everyone is exactly the same( paradise earth). There will be peace
Militant Atheist
- Puts faith in complex bamboozles that they don’t really understand.
-Idol worships men
-Mocks anyone who doesn’t believe in exactly what they believe
-Never misses an opportunity to tell someone how they feel about religion.
-Both make mockery of god and bible.
-Both for long of day when everyone is exactly the same( no one believes in the bible). There will be peace.
i was just thinking about something someone said on another thread.
to paraphrase, 'jw beliefs like there being no hellfire, immortal soul, the condition at death...have the ring of truth.'.
i realized, atheists believe these things too!.
I have often thought that jehovah witnesses on the surface appear christian but when you dig deeper it seems to be this incredibly complex bamboozle to disprove all the basic tenents of the Christian faith.
I think once you finally see though the stupidity of it it leaves incredibly hurt and frustrated. It's almost like it was designed to make you an athiest right from the beginning.
there was a recent thread on the "quality" of converts to jws in recent years.
it wasn't a pretty picture, based on the thread contents.. well, the lack of depth isn't restricted to new converts.. in our clam this week, one of the principal points for review was this:.
ne 1:1; 2:1—why can we conclude that “the 20thyear” mentioned at nehemiah 1:1 and 2:1 is countedfrom the same starting point?
The WTS is literally the only organization on earth that doesn’t reward success, intelligence or education. All it takes lots of hours and a total lack of class as a human being.
What a fucked up model.
yes friends it is too late for most of you to return to jehovah's org.
based on the new garlic bread parable in this month's broadcast with the illustration using loaves of bread.
it is obvious that the doors of the arc has been closed shut by jehovah's hand for some of us.. according to the new parable that can be found on jw tv.
The idea of sinning against god’s spirit or the holy spirit is the idea we are all given a moral compass and know the difference between right and wrong. Of course there are sin’s that are more awful than others and in reality we know in our hearts the things you can’t go back on. For example you couldn’t kill a child for fun because had some kind of mental malfunction and ever be truly repentant in gods eyes.
I had a chat with a real Christian about how awful I felt about going to the KH with my wife. He told me the reason I felt awful is because god was calling me out. You can’t ignore god and expect to ever see his kingdom.
Every time a JW tries to teach that bullshit overlapping generation or teach that gods plan for humanity was to give us seven magical men in New York and only though our works and obedience can we be saved etc etc etc ……………that is called sinning against gods spirit.
This is just another WTS mockery piece. This clown is a dead man.
I was renting a room for a while to my wives JW in-laws. It was a husband, wife and 5 year old child.
One evening two elders showed up ( childless also) to do a shepherding call because the 5 year old looked get this……………. uninterested during the meetings. Basically they told him he wasn’t a good child and they were bad parents for not making their child love Jehovah.
I had to leave the house it was so disgusting.
As a whole I can stand the women. For the majority of them it is just a club. Of course there are some real biggest dog in the yard bitches but that just isn’t a JW thing. Plus there are some shunning Gestapo females I have met I can’t stand.
There are some elders though I truly dislike. Narcissistic, arrogant, dishonest, delusional sense of self- importance, uneducated. My current hall it just seems the biggest loser automatically gets the job.
Something that really bothers me and there is a certain elder in my hall who likes to make the stupidest over the top comments just in an attempt make people roll their eyes so he can spot the ones who haven’t bought it lock stock and sinker.
on a previous post mamacita29 pointed up the low quality of new jw converts.. is the quality falling even more as the society use lower than low meeting, talks, broadcasts etc.. when i was active initially the organisation and standards seemed totally different today.
i have seen hard working intelligent elders fall by death or exhaustion.
the younger generation that came along never really grasped responsibility hence shortage of good elders, never mind the watered down to almost nothing quality of meetings.
We use to have a guy come to the hall in Sweat Pants and a Hockey Jersey. He looked like a wrestling jobber from the WWF of the 80s.
He obviously was mentally ill. No one would talk to him but he kept coming for about 4 months.
If go around knocking on doors , what do you expect ?
