Clambake

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  "Evidence" of a "smokelike pall"... This was the last straw for me back in 2008. Fade began with this:

  by DarioKehl in

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  from that nutty red book of insanity, the grand climax at hand book, chapter 22, paragraphs 7 & 8. .

  i had my doubts since childhood.

  i went along with it to please people.

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  Clambake

  So basically the core of all Jehovah witness theology just comes down to some incredibly complex ever shifting bamboozle that basically no one understands.

  I told an elder that one time and it’s all spiritual pornography. He wasn’t impressed.
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  Do you think you should have the right to decline business on Personal or Religious grounds?

  by PokerPlayerPhil in

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  2. beliefs

  should individual businesses have the right to pick and chose who they serve?

  if a muslim decides he won't bake the cake of a radical zionist that says "reclaim the temple in jerusalem" should the government be allowed to punish the muslim baker?

  maybe you can help me understand the issues more clearly because were becoming hyper-sensitive and soon your going to need a handbook what's the proper thing to say.

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  If I were that baker in Indiana , I would have said sure , for 2 million dollars.

  Honestly a little common sense would sure go along ways sometimes. If someone doesn't want your business, just don't give it to them. It is not like it was an essential service.

  Is it just me or does it seem like the Gay and Lesbian community have more of a pre-occupation with the religious right than the other way around.
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  Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

  i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

  indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.

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  Clambake

  This thread is taking on the tone of a secret elders meeting. Lots of smugness mixed with self congratulation mixed with an incredible vagueness.
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  Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

  i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

  indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.

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  Clambake

  Why ?

  Both are unanswerable questions silly.

  But of course science not today but tomorrow will figure it all for us. Progress is being made. Blah blah blah. We have big thick books with really complex answers.

  It find it funny how the pro-science crowd often seems to be bigger deists than religious people.
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  Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

  i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

  indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.

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  I see the watchtower has trained you well young Jedi. Wear down your opponent with a pointless circular argument that goes nowhere.
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  Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

  i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

  indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.

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  Asking religious people to prove the existence of god is like asking an atheist to disprove there being any intelligence in our design.

  Anyone with a sincere interest in all thing scientific wouldn’t waste their time with such a pointless endeavour.
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  Why do religious people make claims and then refuse to back them up?

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.

  i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.

  indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.

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  Clambake

  I hate when people spew philosophy and pretend they are doing it in the name of a scientific debate. This thread is nothing but pointless fluff.
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  Elders want to meet with us, help!

  by All for show in

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  2. friends

  my husband is awake,yay!

  we haven't been to meeting since february, although we attended the memorial.

  when jws have called us we say we are amazing, everything is awesome much to their shock.

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  I don’t know the exact details of how hard-ass your family are but I would blow the whole meeting out of proportion use it as an excuse to just not attend anymore.

  I had a friend who had his local BOE get involved with his marriage problems without him even asking them and felt they had really crossed the line. Both his witness and non-witness felt the same way about it. He just used it as excuse to fade away no questions asked.

  Make sure you are really petty and small. Something JWs are great at. They will understand.
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  Guess what I just got in the mail?

  by Question_Mans_interpretation in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i got an invitation from an ex mormon bishop to come learn how to witness to mormons.

  this guy is brave, he even invited the current local mormon bishop to attend.

  here's his website leebaker.4mormon.org.

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  Clambake

  As a Christian I believe Mormons are false religion and will prevent you from having a relationship with Jesus Christ.

  As a person I believe Mormons are pretty stand up people, with good values and Mormonism is pretty harmless. It is not nearly the soul sucking family destroying cult the WTS is. I really hate when the two are compared against each other.

  About every six months we get a new duo in my territory. I always love talking with them and buying them lunch. They always have some crazy stories about being mistaken as JWs, having run ins with JWs. It all pretty funny. One time they were having a house church and two JWs came to the door and were invited in the basement 20 mormons were waiting to argue.
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  The multitude that no man can number

  by SonoftheTrinity in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how can protection from destruction at armageddon be solely with the jehovah's witnesses when the great multitude is one that no man could number while the jehovah's witnesses put great effort into cooking statistics of how many jws there are worldwide?

  the unscriptural scare tactics they use are blatantly insulting to anyone who can read a bible.

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  Clambake

  I for one really find the book of revelations really interesting but find it is quite frightening how all WTS theology replies on it, with something being symbolic of this and that and up really meaning down and 1 plus 1 really meaning 3 etc etc.

  I don’t know of too many people in the secular academic community ( professor of religious studies ) that support the JWs and they don’t even have a dog in the fight either way. It is pretty scary these people go to go trying to teach the bible.

  Well, if Jew means those with the heavenly hope and 144000 is a literally number and great crowd means those who live on paradise earth.