continued from part 1 (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5097191899136000/john-1-1-colossians-1-16-all-other-things):.
the nw translation and some of its unique renderings, like john 1.1- "a god," and colossians 1.16 - "all other things," have been consistently at the top of the most debated topics here in this forum and elsewhere from the beginning.
the anger felt by detractors of the nwt rendering of john 1.1 (a god) has diminished considerably if compared to the furious debates surrounding the verse that raged on during the 1950 thru 1970s.
If Colossians is a reference to god creating an angel that intern created the world , you would think the story of the creation of Jesus would be found in the old testament.
Kind one of the missing links of Jehovah witness theology.
What was Paul thinking when he wrote that ? What else has Paul written on the subject ? Calling Jesus the viable image of the invisible god? or “ all the deity rested in bodily form “
continued from part 1 (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5097191899136000/john-1-1-colossians-1-16-all-other-things):.
the nw translation and some of its unique renderings, like john 1.1- "a god," and colossians 1.16 - "all other things," have been consistently at the top of the most debated topics here in this forum and elsewhere from the beginning.
the anger felt by detractors of the nwt rendering of john 1.1 (a god) has diminished considerably if compared to the furious debates surrounding the verse that raged on during the 1950 thru 1970s.
Ever heard the expression “ can’t see the forest because of all the trees “ ?
The book of John is making reference to Jesus being “ the angel of lord “ from the old testament. The figure that was identified as being with god and god at the same time. The how never seeing the face of god and being able to live but people seeing god and living. “ No one has seen the father only the son “.
Now how does that work ?? Well, I don’t know ( this is where a JW feel morality superior to you ) .
I think it is quite arrogant to think we have figured out the nature of god.
are we near the end of days, is this a sign of the end????
i'm surprise they are not out.
in full force, they love this kind of stuff..
I have asked my wife if there was been any mention of isis or what is happening in the middle east and she says not a word.
My theory is you would hate draw any attention to false christians dying for their faith. Only a jw is capable of doing that.
Also you would hate to think the word Israel or Jerusalem actually means Israel or Jerusalem. Remember it is all the dubs . That is reason they are always in the news.
Oh wait. It child raping instead.
in this age of violence with the san bernardino and france massacres sometimes it's good to reflect on the wise words of the peace advocates among us who proposed a better solution in bringing a more civil society to our universe.
john lennon, martin luther king jr. - people who stood up for equal rights and world peace and denounced violence and war - no matter how that violence occurs.
please feel free to comment on stories of john lennon on this thread and feel free to post any you tubes of his music that you may have enjoyed through the years.
John Lennon basically abandoned his first son and was known to beat women up. Julian Lennon says his father was so full of shit, like most hippies he was politically unaware and was more into for the sex and drugs.
in this age of violence with the san bernardino and france massacres sometimes it's good to reflect on the wise words of the peace advocates among us who proposed a better solution in bringing a more civil society to our universe.
john lennon, martin luther king jr. - people who stood up for equal rights and world peace and denounced violence and war - no matter how that violence occurs.
please feel free to comment on stories of john lennon on this thread and feel free to post any you tubes of his music that you may have enjoyed through the years.
John Lennon wasn’t really that good a person on a personal level. I have always thought that was kind of Ironic.
i know many jws that state that the watchtower corporation is the 'closest to the truth'.
thus they quiet their cognitive dissonance.. i don't have access to a corporation library any more.
is this a stance that the watchtower corporation has actually claimed?.
I have always found it funny that average JW feels this superiority to the average Christian because they believe they have figure out all the prophetic books of the bible but in no way shape or form could they even start to explain the bamboozle.
When you entire faith becomes about trying to find codes and prove the bible was changed, it becomes silly.
this is not meant to be a controversial discussion, but just mentioning what has happened to my daughter.. i personally started my fade early this year 2015, it has resulted in my losing all my so called jw friends and the brake-up of my marriage.
when i split up with my wife, she asked our daughter who she would like to live with, my daughter decided to live with me, and also abandoned the cult.. recently my daughter told me that she is very disappointed with the congregation of jehovah's witnesses because she thought she had friends there, but now she has realized that it was all conditional, not a single one of them has even remotely tried to keep contact with my daughter, she is 15, not baptized and never a publisher.. now yesterday she met up with a jehovah's witness friend who is in another congregation.
this friend is also 15, baptized since she was 14, a very dominant elder father, and has virtually no association outside jw circles, and also internet access is banned at home.
I think being becoming a JW is kind of like becoming a smoker. If they haven’t got you by the time you are 18, they just aren’t going to get you.
Please get her involved in something. Playing sports, playing music, going to another church etc etc . You are so close to having her free. She will make other friends.
this question is for the ladies out there, but if you are a man and you'd like to share your thoughts on the following topic you are welcomed to do so.
given the wt society's view on women, did any of you ladies gave up on the idea of getting married "in the truth".
in such case, did you sometimes feel that you were missing out?
Marry whoever you want. They will get over it in time.
Plus it also puts some distance between you and the ubers.
I think secretly my wife is glad I am not in. It protects my son from the blood issue. Some elder isn't going to talk him into being a pioneer/janitor the rest of his wife. I am not going to beat the crap out of her and pull the headship card either and accuse her of not being a good dub.
so the elders keep bugging me and pestering me about having a meeting with them to "introduce me to my new congregation" for some reason (do any ex elders know what that even means??).
i keep postponing and making excuses and they are getting more and more aggressive.
i finally agreed for them to come over today, but really don't want to..should i hide from them again?
The biggest busy body in our hall is a pioneering elder who runs his own cleaning service. The funny thing I don’t actually know if he has any contracts. I am pretty sure he would starve to death if it wasn’t for his wife. I don’t even think he makes 10,000 dollars a year.
I think my wife has somewhat woken up to the stupidity of how some of these people live. Nearly 50 years old, still renting, no children, no retirement savings.
It is really easy to always be in everyone’s shit when you absolutely nothing else going on in your life.
it was always boring, and i was afraid that i was gonna get attacked by a dog.
i actually almost got attacked by a rottweiler once.
i didnt get paid for it, nobody listened to us, i actually had guys make passes at me while i was out doing street corner, i was always afraid i would get grouped and raped.
I asked my wife in her 20 plus years of fs if she ever got into some odd or deep theological debates or discussions.
She said no.
I found that depressing.
