And now the chi-coms have officially stated they are happy to help rebuild. Surprise surprise surprise
Justaguy
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Afghanistan-Kabul falls to Taliban - U.S. Embassy staff evacuated by helicopter
by fulltimestudent inin a scene reminiscent of the fall of saigon, the usa embassy staff have been evacuated by helicopter.. for a third time in asia ( a fourth, if you count usa supported chiang kai shek's defeat in mainland china) usa supported forces have been defeated.
more than 1 trillion dollars wasted and a huge deathtoll (both sides) afghanistan is back to where it started,.
will the taliban behave differently this time ?
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Greetings and Request for Help
by AGuest-Again init's been awhile since i've been on this board and i am not here to stay (so stay calm, please, simon).
a good, dear friend of mine... and possible yours... outlaw needs some help and i've come back solely for the purpose of asking for that.
a couple of days ago, outlaw lost everything... and i do mean everything... to one of the wildfires burning in british columbia:.
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Justaguy
Sil,
i hope you swing back by and check the thread, you left the same link twice, meaning we cannot actually help outlaw.
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Afghanistan-Kabul falls to Taliban - U.S. Embassy staff evacuated by helicopter
by fulltimestudent inin a scene reminiscent of the fall of saigon, the usa embassy staff have been evacuated by helicopter.. for a third time in asia ( a fourth, if you count usa supported chiang kai shek's defeat in mainland china) usa supported forces have been defeated.
more than 1 trillion dollars wasted and a huge deathtoll (both sides) afghanistan is back to where it started,.
will the taliban behave differently this time ?
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Justaguy
Interesting. That 14 million is small compared to the 45 million Mao is credited with killing himself.
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Afghanistan-Kabul falls to Taliban - U.S. Embassy staff evacuated by helicopter
by fulltimestudent inin a scene reminiscent of the fall of saigon, the usa embassy staff have been evacuated by helicopter.. for a third time in asia ( a fourth, if you count usa supported chiang kai shek's defeat in mainland china) usa supported forces have been defeated.
more than 1 trillion dollars wasted and a huge deathtoll (both sides) afghanistan is back to where it started,.
will the taliban behave differently this time ?
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Justaguy
The US didn't leave victorious. They left with the world laughing at their stupidity and incompetence.
Who said anything about victory? I gave a nuanced perspective that ultimately summarized with : “ If by defeat you mean the ruskies and americans failed to change the hearts and minds of the mohammedans, absolutely correct.” So…. ?
I then said:
But defeat on the battle field? Not even close.
I still dont see the word victory nor the concept expressed. And yes the world is cheering as my many comments on this topic have noted.
No one has ever "held" Afganistan and no one ever will.
It's all about the geography.false. The Russians held it for 10 years, although it was hotly contested for the duration and the Americans held it for 20 years, for much of which there was no resistance whatsoever, our puppets rans the government and enforced the laws. We even opened schools for girls (to the shock and horror of the cabe dwellers) By definition that is “holding it”.
(NB you pushed the Japs back by nuking them. Now that is nothing to "crow" about).
In fact it is. Fat man and Little Boy were technological marvels that laid the foundation for the world of today. It could well be argued that Nukes are the only reason there have been no more world wars. But in point of fact that is not exclusively how we pushed them back. The battle of midway, the pivotal point in the war of the pacific, was all conventional arms and good old fashion boots to asses by some very heroic men.
I understand the desire to be reductionist but nuclear arms were the coffin nail not the hammer.
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Afghanistan-Kabul falls to Taliban - U.S. Embassy staff evacuated by helicopter
by fulltimestudent inin a scene reminiscent of the fall of saigon, the usa embassy staff have been evacuated by helicopter.. for a third time in asia ( a fourth, if you count usa supported chiang kai shek's defeat in mainland china) usa supported forces have been defeated.
more than 1 trillion dollars wasted and a huge deathtoll (both sides) afghanistan is back to where it started,.
will the taliban behave differently this time ?
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Justaguy
This concept that somehow the poppy growers won is strange to me. Its like ,after being knocked out in the first 30 seconds of rounds one, a boxer is revived and stands up, and seeing his opponent is gone (to the dressing room for a victory press conference), begins declare himself victor to the empty arena.
The poppy growers and goat herders didnt win. They didnt beat the Soviets either. The USSR was failing as a nation (thanks to the brilliant tactics of the USA under Ronald Regan) and decided to pull back. They held that dirt for almost Ten years. If you get hit in the face for ten years and finally someone stops because their hand hurts, that was a win for your face I guess…?
The USA held that dirt for 20 years and could have held it for 20 more. The poppy growers and goat herders were hiding in caves. Literal cave men. They were of no threat whatsoever. The USA decided to go home. There was no forcing the USA out. There was no threat of loss or defeat. As a nation we decided to stop punching them in the face. A win for the tali’s face, i guess….?
If by defeat you mean the ruskies and americans failed to change the hearts and minds of the mohammedans, absolutely correct. That was predictable as night and day. It would take two generations of occupation to do that. But defeat on the battle field? Not even close.
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Afghanistan-Kabul falls to Taliban - U.S. Embassy staff evacuated by helicopter
by fulltimestudent inin a scene reminiscent of the fall of saigon, the usa embassy staff have been evacuated by helicopter.. for a third time in asia ( a fourth, if you count usa supported chiang kai shek's defeat in mainland china) usa supported forces have been defeated.
more than 1 trillion dollars wasted and a huge deathtoll (both sides) afghanistan is back to where it started,.
will the taliban behave differently this time ?
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Justaguy
“Japs” is simply short for Japanese, quicker to type. i cant see how thats offensive. Call me ‘merican if you’d like…
However, Because of PC culture, I restrained myself from calling the chi-coms “slopes”. I feel i deserve credit for that.
No idea who those other people are, but nice to make your acquaintance just the same.
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Afghanistan-Kabul falls to Taliban - U.S. Embassy staff evacuated by helicopter
by fulltimestudent inin a scene reminiscent of the fall of saigon, the usa embassy staff have been evacuated by helicopter.. for a third time in asia ( a fourth, if you count usa supported chiang kai shek's defeat in mainland china) usa supported forces have been defeated.
more than 1 trillion dollars wasted and a huge deathtoll (both sides) afghanistan is back to where it started,.
will the taliban behave differently this time ?
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Justaguy
And thats why the chi-coms are giggling at the US withdrawal
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Afghanistan-Kabul falls to Taliban - U.S. Embassy staff evacuated by helicopter
by fulltimestudent inin a scene reminiscent of the fall of saigon, the usa embassy staff have been evacuated by helicopter.. for a third time in asia ( a fourth, if you count usa supported chiang kai shek's defeat in mainland china) usa supported forces have been defeated.
more than 1 trillion dollars wasted and a huge deathtoll (both sides) afghanistan is back to where it started,.
will the taliban behave differently this time ?
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Justaguy
😂😂😂😂😂 slim slim slim slim slim slim slim…
the US of A Has never, ever, had colonies (Libera being an experiment and not a colony as such), but nice try. Thats your people.
If you mean “military presence” in other countries, then you can simply say “thank you”, and on behalf of America, I will accept. Without our military presence you and the rest of your European cohorts would be speaking german. Saving your ass did not equal colonizing you.
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Afghanistan-Kabul falls to Taliban - U.S. Embassy staff evacuated by helicopter
by fulltimestudent inin a scene reminiscent of the fall of saigon, the usa embassy staff have been evacuated by helicopter.. for a third time in asia ( a fourth, if you count usa supported chiang kai shek's defeat in mainland china) usa supported forces have been defeated.
more than 1 trillion dollars wasted and a huge deathtoll (both sides) afghanistan is back to where it started,.
will the taliban behave differently this time ?
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Justaguy
Bahahahahaha 😂😂😂😂
withdrawal is not defeat, but nice try. We could have held the land of goat herders indefinitely, but apparently Ole lunch bucket Joe had other ideas.
You can crow all you want about “defeats” but the Japanese showed how soft your people are and America pushed those same Japs back onto their island for good.
Let us hope the proxy war never becomes full blown war between the two real antagonists. For now even your chi-com overlords are smart enough to know a shooting war with the US of A is a losing proposition. Tragically our ruling class is too stupid and/or paid off to fight back effectively in this full blown cold war, so ultimate victory may yet belong to china.
However, until then….
USA! USA! USA!
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