i was thinking how the jw's are no doubt going to point to this as a show of jehovah's hand in the matter.. however i think it may also have a negative impact and lead others to learn the truth about the truth.. this ruling does nothing to remove the fact that child abusers were among 'god's people' and the elders did nothing to protect the flock.
regardless of the fine, i think any publicity is good publicity for helping others wake up.
that's just my 2 cents.... and i could be totally wrong as well, but that is what this board is for right :-).
I'm not a betting man but if I were I'd bet that:
There have been countless meetings at Warwick to decide wether or not to capitalize on the verdict and the decision is NOT to post it to the breaking news or anywhere on JW.org. They know they would look like D-bags either way.
Unless of course the WT Spin Team pulls something pretty amazing out of the hat.
this is from a recent article about malawi, and the caption calls the man "brother welosi mbendera".. .
"...why even some elders have beards..."
have you ever reinstate somebody even if they are not that repentant?.
My old standby was to ask, "if you had it to do all over again, what would you do differently." Their answer usually sealed the deal one way or the other for me. As a young elder though I was more into the dog and pony show combined with if i liked them or not to produce the decision.
it has happened somewhere i know.
what is it and what does it mean.
There is no HQ provision for this and the times it has happened without BOE repercussions could probably be counted on zero fingers.
as jw elders what were the biggest frustrations we personally had?.
i hated rank and file members who i couldn't humble..
As JW Elders what were the biggest frustrations we personally had?
I hated rank and file members who I couldn't humble.
some people on this forum have said that they never really believed any aspect of wt teaching, that they couldn't wait to get free of it all.. others seems to have been really gung ho, believing it all until something happened that got you questioning "the truth.".
i would say my own high water mark was about 50%, which put me squarely on the fence, trying to decide if i should be in or out.. how about you?.
Multi Generational Born In = Believed Everything. Lock, stock, & barrel.
i was recently informed that the new jw bible was reviewed by some academic type person who rated it as one of the best translations available.. has anyone heard of this person and if so what is his reasoning for giving it such a compliment?.
Bingo TD.
Look at all the other opinions that have been expressed by Jason BeDuhn. Helps put into perspective what he says about the DubBible.
just looking at the pictures in tomorrow's wt study makes me think of the nightmares i used to have as a child.
and nowadays the pictures are sometimes more realistic, so for any who are truly mentally in, this has a terrible effect on them and even their life choices.
looking in as a pimo or pomo it seems almost comical that adults would believe in this sci-fi bible fan-fiction, but it's not funny when we remember that all ages of the r&f are being manipulated by the gb by these cheap and evil means.. .
It almost seems like a cult.
i was a jw from infancy.
we had a melting pot type of congregation.
i grew up with all types of witnesses , all with different backgrounds.
And for those of us elders who served for years think back to meeting time rotations!
We never asked the Spanish if they wanted to rotate into Sundays. We (white privileged men) were #1 too coward to have to deal with the backlash after announcing to the cong that they would have to endure Saturday meetings, #2 were unwilling give up Sunday football, #3 assumed the Spanish "love their Saturday slot" so why even ask them.
i was a jw from infancy.
we had a melting pot type of congregation.
i grew up with all types of witnesses , all with different backgrounds.
A black brother gave a public talk at our all white KH one Sunday, had his son turn the lights off at a predetermined point, and made the statement loudly into the microphone..."turn the lights off and we're all black".
Yeah, um, JWs are generally racists. Both from what he said and the backlash over his "stunt" that led to me having to give a local needs several weeks later from all the nasty gossip.
