Is not working? I've tried just now and it's valid..
Try again:
Otherwise, try searching direct on UN site.. type Watchtower in the Search field.. It's very easy..
hello folks,.
i have other news.. i had seen in the brazilian forum that un had removed the document that speaks about the disaffiliation of the watchtower to it.. however, what really happened was the restructuring of the website, which caused the linkto got invalid... follow the official link of the document directly from the website of the un:.
http://search.un.org/smb/secf10.un.org/digilib/$/digitallibrary/dig/www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf.
Is not working? I've tried just now and it's valid..
Try again:
Otherwise, try searching direct on UN site.. type Watchtower in the Search field.. It's very easy..
hello folks,.
fortunately, i'm able to have a frank conversation with my brother and he, who was already showing some doubts about the organization, got visibly upset when he saw the videos about bulgaria and onu ... .
especially about the bulgaria case, he said that perhaps the document could not be authentic, but invented .. i was speechless, because although i'm sure, i never found any official evidence unless the note published in the jw-media or others "apostate" sites.. finally, after searching, i found the official link of the decision of the european court of human rights in bulgaria case, where the watchtower clearly says not to apply any form of control or sanction for members who opt to choose medical treatment contrary to the doctrines of jehovah's witnesses in order to obtain legal recognition as a religion in the country (prostituting like babylon the great).. linkfrom the official websiteof the european courtof human rights bellow:.
Thank you, AnnOMaly.
hello folks,.
i have other news.. i had seen in the brazilian forum that un had removed the document that speaks about the disaffiliation of the watchtower to it.. however, what really happened was the restructuring of the website, which caused the linkto got invalid... follow the official link of the document directly from the website of the un:.
http://search.un.org/smb/secf10.un.org/digilib/$/digitallibrary/dig/www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf.
kepler,
I really didn't know this.. Very interesting.. I will ask in our Brazilian forum about this matter.
Farkel,
Exactly.. Omission also is dishonesty! However if people uses blood, they may go to JC and then be DF.. i.e., this is a sanction, not automatic, but possible (VERY POSSIBLE)..
hello folks,.
i have other news.. i had seen in the brazilian forum that un had removed the document that speaks about the disaffiliation of the watchtower to it.. however, what really happened was the restructuring of the website, which caused the linkto got invalid... follow the official link of the document directly from the website of the un:.
http://search.un.org/smb/secf10.un.org/digilib/$/digitallibrary/dig/www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf.
Thank you friends..
Have you seen the official link of the Agreement between the Watchtower and Bulgaria (no sanction for members that use Blood treatment)??
Regards, TheScientist
so the local elders where i live recently had a big meeting with the hlc elders and i got a brief summary of what was said.
thought i'd share.. it seems the jws aren't capable of making a decision based on their personal conscience.
they are confused by the whole fraction thing and end up refusing the lot 'just in case' or accepting some and refusing others making them look like idiots.
Great news!
I've found the OFFICIAL link of the Agreement between the Watchtower and Bulgaria (no sanctions to members that use blood treatment):
Greetings from Brazil,
TheScientist
hello folks,.
i have other news.. i had seen in the brazilian forum that un had removed the document that speaks about the disaffiliation of the watchtower to it.. however, what really happened was the restructuring of the website, which caused the linkto got invalid... follow the official link of the document directly from the website of the un:.
http://search.un.org/smb/secf10.un.org/digilib/$/digitallibrary/dig/www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf.
Thank you Wilfried.. :-)
hello folks,.
fortunately, i'm able to have a frank conversation with my brother and he, who was already showing some doubts about the organization, got visibly upset when he saw the videos about bulgaria and onu ... .
especially about the bulgaria case, he said that perhaps the document could not be authentic, but invented .. i was speechless, because although i'm sure, i never found any official evidence unless the note published in the jw-media or others "apostate" sites.. finally, after searching, i found the official link of the decision of the european court of human rights in bulgaria case, where the watchtower clearly says not to apply any form of control or sanction for members who opt to choose medical treatment contrary to the doctrines of jehovah's witnesses in order to obtain legal recognition as a religion in the country (prostituting like babylon the great).. linkfrom the official websiteof the european courtof human rights bellow:.
(Oh man! I appologize for the joint words in the first post...... I can't fix anymore (post 30 min).. If the Moderators want to (including grammar erros.. he he), I will be thankful..)
Thank you friends,
Have you checked the desifiliation document directly from UN official website:
In Brazil when I discoved and posted these documents in the forum, they had the same reaction.. he he.
Our site (it is in Portuguese, but you can use Google Translator):
hello folks,.
fortunately, i'm able to have a frank conversation with my brother and he, who was already showing some doubts about the organization, got visibly upset when he saw the videos about bulgaria and onu ... .
especially about the bulgaria case, he said that perhaps the document could not be authentic, but invented .. i was speechless, because although i'm sure, i never found any official evidence unless the note published in the jw-media or others "apostate" sites.. finally, after searching, i found the official link of the decision of the european court of human rights in bulgaria case, where the watchtower clearly says not to apply any form of control or sanction for members who opt to choose medical treatment contrary to the doctrines of jehovah's witnesses in order to obtain legal recognition as a religion in the country (prostituting like babylon the great).. linkfrom the official websiteof the european courtof human rights bellow:.
Hi puffthedragon,
That this arrangement was known , is not new. However , we just found this document on the websites of JW dissent.
Now you can read it and show to your friends directly from the official website of the European Court . Is not great?!
The Brazilian dissent got very happy with this discovery and asked me to post here as well.
Kind regards, TheScientist
PS: Folks, we might exchange information (Brazil dissident and English speakers dissident). Do you know about Sebastian case?
hello folks,.
i have other news.. i had seen in the brazilian forum that un had removed the document that speaks about the disaffiliation of the watchtower to it.. however, what really happened was the restructuring of the website, which caused the linkto got invalid... follow the official link of the document directly from the website of the un:.
http://search.un.org/smb/secf10.un.org/digilib/$/digitallibrary/dig/www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf.
Hello Folks ,
I have other news .. I had seen in the Brazilian forum that UN had removed the document that speaks about the disaffiliation of the Watchtower to it .. However, what really happened was the restructuring of the web site , which caused the link to got invalid ..
Follow the official link of the document directly from the website of the UN:
And if the link get invalid again ?
Simple, do it:
- Just click in: http://www.un.org/en/search/index.shtml or http://www.un.org and click in Advanced Search
- T ype in " all words with ": Watchtower Bible and Tract Society
This will list all documents related to PROSTITUTE who maintains relations with the beast directly from UN website...
More proof of that? Impossible!
Greetings from Brazil dissent.
Regards,
TheScientist
PS: Sorry for my bad, bad English..
hello folks,.
fortunately, i'm able to have a frank conversation with my brother and he, who was already showing some doubts about the organization, got visibly upset when he saw the videos about bulgaria and onu ... .
especially about the bulgaria case, he said that perhaps the document could not be authentic, but invented .. i was speechless, because although i'm sure, i never found any official evidence unless the note published in the jw-media or others "apostate" sites.. finally, after searching, i found the official link of the decision of the european court of human rights in bulgaria case, where the watchtower clearly says not to apply any form of control or sanction for members who opt to choose medical treatment contrary to the doctrines of jehovah's witnesses in order to obtain legal recognition as a religion in the country (prostituting like babylon the great).. linkfrom the official websiteof the european courtof human rights bellow:.
Hello Folks,
Fortunately, I'm able to have a frank conversation with my brother and he, who was already showing some doubts about the organization, got visibly upset when he saw the videos about Bulgaria and Onu ..
Especially about the Bulgaria case, he said that perhaps the document could not be authentic, but invented .. I was speechless, because although I'm sure, I never found any official evidence unless the note published in the jw-media or others "apostate" sites.. Finally, after searching, I found the official link of the decision of the European Court of Human Rights in Bulgaria case, where the Watchtower clearly says not to apply any form of control or sanction for members who opt to choose medical treatment contrary to the doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses in order to obtain legal recognition as a religion in the country (prostituting like Babylon the Great).
L ink from the official website of the European Court of Human Rights bellow:
More proof of that? Impossible!
Do you prefer to search yourself where is the information? See how to get to the link follow ing a step by step :
STEP 1:
- Go to the search portal of the official website of the European Court of Human Rights.
- Click on the address : http://www.echr.coe.int/echr/en/hudoc/
STEP 2
- Given the above image, click " HUDOC database ."
- As a result , will open the page below. And, as shown in the figure, fill the form like this :
1 . Click HUDDOC Collection
2. In the Application Number field , type " 28626/95 " (put the quotation marks )
3. Click Search
STEP 3
- As a result , will open the page shown below.
Then click the second link.
As a result , the page opens with the resolution.
Sorry for my English..