All what we know about Christianty whe heritated from Catolic Church, without CC we had no Christian faith today, without CC we had no Bible, because they were the copyists, we would be perhaps Actec, inkas, native americans, ethnic germans, celts and so on and would have our own old religion. Some cults remained, but the most have been dishonoured by exegeratted fanatism of christians similar to the JW fanatism who war saying that catolic church is the most evil in the world, together with christianity. and will be innihilated within short time in armageddon, the clery first as the current Watchtowers write. The Watchtower all full with that sh*t.
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David Splane: The Catholic Church brought the Gospel into China!
by FusionTheism inquotes from the new david splane "1900 years" video:.
"the catholic church took the preaching work more seriously than the reformers... who brought the gospel into china?
... it was the catholic church.".
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The Bible is NOT Error-Free
by FusionTheism infor many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.
but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?
why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?
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The Bible is NOT Error-Free
by FusionTheism infor many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.
but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?
why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?
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Viviane, hi.i read that greek was the lingua franca, like english today in the region, some type of aramean was spoken as daily language, hebrew was only used in the worship.... so jesus must have spoken greek .. i think. -
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The Bible is NOT Error-Free
by FusionTheism infor many christians, the bible is viewed as the 100% error-free, perfect book straight from god, where every single word was carefully chosen by god for a reason.
but, usually, when you have a discussion on the topic, these christians will end up saying that only the original copies written directly from the hands of the prophets and apostles were error-free, and all manuscript copies since then are subject to copyist mistakes and other errors.. since zero original copies are in existence, how do we know the originals were error-free?
why should we think the originals should be error-free to begin with?
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According to the best cholars the variations in the text that are appearing in manuscripts, payri or pergament or later codices have many reasons and are a wonderful tool to study the history of "new testament" /greek scriptures history. The variations can be idfentified and are absolutely not destorying the text undertanding.
Why are you citing words of jesus if you are not sure about errors at all? Which variations are basis of the todays bible text has been studied by hundreds of bible scholars in the history, the todays translations are reliable enough to understand the text. -
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David Splane address bethelites
by rosesinbloom ini did not write this piece.
i enjoyed the simple and understandable reasoning.
hope some of you enjoy it too.
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TheWonderofYou
Listener : I like your comment2 days ago
Thanks for the links. It provided the link to Splane's morning worship talk.
The GB still believe that there were anointed on earth throughout the last 1900 years but if they were not qualified to provide spiritual food then how did they become anointed? This means that during those 1900 years the anointed did not need to know bible truths, including the requirement to preach to others. On what basis did God select them in order to anoint them?
Surely, if those individuals were anointed by God during this period of time without the need to receive or pass on spiritual food or the need to be part of an earthly organization (or God's earthly organization) then there is no such requirement today for one to be selected to be anointed.
By giving this speech Splane is including Charles T Russel as being disqualified to be appointed as the FDS.
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David Splane: The Catholic Church brought the Gospel into China!
by FusionTheism inquotes from the new david splane "1900 years" video:.
"the catholic church took the preaching work more seriously than the reformers... who brought the gospel into china?
... it was the catholic church.".
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TheWonderofYou
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David Splane: The Catholic Church brought the Gospel into China!
by FusionTheism inquotes from the new david splane "1900 years" video:.
"the catholic church took the preaching work more seriously than the reformers... who brought the gospel into china?
... it was the catholic church.".
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http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/334910002/governing-body-appointed-1971-1919Prologos: David Splane always had a habit of taken off on a tangent on subjects he must have nursed for a while. now it is official.
Prologos: I dont understand your english wordplay here: taken off on a tangent of subjects. does it mean go off on a tangent, and must have nursed ...sorry i am not native speakers.
But obviously the moste important fact is, as other commentators already said in other threads, who say that the goal of the whole action is to make place for the growing numbers of memorial partakers. So 1919 FDS in action, 1971 GB freed itself from WT-Society and acts as independent body that is not reporting to the watchtower, whereas Brother Gerrit Loesch himself is a part of FDS and GB not reporting to the watchtower. Most shocking fact is for me that we cannot identify the 144000 but our life depends on them, without connection to this anonymous secret brothers of christ class we can get eternal life, they are the Co-mediators of christ in JW-Belief. Whereas the Bible says only through Christ himself, no mediators, you get eternal life. -
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David Splane: The Catholic Church brought the Gospel into China!
by FusionTheism inquotes from the new david splane "1900 years" video:.
"the catholic church took the preaching work more seriously than the reformers... who brought the gospel into china?
... it was the catholic church.".
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TheWonderofYou
How do we call the gospel.... the gospel according to mattew and so on....or good news... what is tje gospel at all.. interesting -
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David Splane: The Catholic Church brought the Gospel into China!
by FusionTheism inquotes from the new david splane "1900 years" video:.
"the catholic church took the preaching work more seriously than the reformers... who brought the gospel into china?
... it was the catholic church.".
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The JW heaven is a distinct place, real place in the material cosmos!, the catholic heaven is a symbol for a place near Gods heart, and our heaven is open for prayers to our saints , cool. Do the 144000 now live somewhere and enjoy the 100 year festival? Why are they not reporting to the watchtower about the already deleted false prophesy by jesus on the throne? Why not comforting the GB or the remnant bros if they live and already sit on their thrones..by a call or tweet.....or are they dead and waiting for their kingdom job yet because a new light had established? What eccactly is the job of the remainig members of the remnant slave class... while they are confusing the whole mankind about their identity? Do the remaining remnants have a voive at all? -
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David Splane: The Catholic Church brought the Gospel into China!
by FusionTheism inquotes from the new david splane "1900 years" video:.
"the catholic church took the preaching work more seriously than the reformers... who brought the gospel into china?
... it was the catholic church.".
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TheWonderofYou
Hey prologos: The catolic Saints are not anointed for a special service in the kingdom... they are only models, they represent each of us, you and me.. you are sanctified by god himself, All saints means lately all who are loved by jesus, this is celebrated at all saints day, all hallow, that all christians are sanctified and able to get divine blessings, they are ecamples not ....kings not arrogant, they can be named, identified, the 144ooo can not be identified, thats the difference! We can ask the saints to help us to find our way in our life, the 144000 dont help us really, how could they if we dont know them.so the anonym 144000 class or antitype can be misused by the watchtowe, because only they know who they arewritte in their secret scrolls.. hahahs... in old watvchtowers. Perhsps the 14400 will help us more in the millenium, but we cannot ask them for help because they are not identified and unreachable in jw heaven, far away of our daily sorrows.