Posts by TheWonderofYou

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Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape

by Formerbrother in

http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.

its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.

it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.

TheWonderofYou

I compared the map of the project plan ( http://www.templefarmdevelopment.co.uk/current) with the areal photo in Google you can clearly see that the project area is indeed a "one piece - compound" on which a body shop (R.P. Autos- Temple Farm Ind Est/Ship Rd,Chelmsford CM2 , car scrap heap, vehicle dismantlers, small workshop garages an other things are residing. This body shop would now already be closed.

From above you see further that the other surrounding grounds belong to farmers because the grounds are farmed, what makes this rumour implausible

What remains is satire ...Imagine these farmers would have become suddenly rich and now be making holidays together with the owner of the body shop on a distinct island which will soon not exist because of the climatic change everywhere and rise of the sea level. They would not envy the witnesses who donated for their holidays and gave their last money and not envy those poor bethelites that would soon be jobbing at Temple farm for the slave, at sweat jobs for slave salaires but in beautiful landscape. "We have drawn the better lots anyway".

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Plans for huge Jehovah's HQ take shape

by Formerbrother in

http://www.chelmsfordweeklynews.co.uk/news/11227290.plans_for_huge_jehovah_s_hq_take_shape/.

its going to be a real beautiful place when its finished.. they are going for quality over quantity.

it used to be accommodation for a few thousand permanent residents, now its looking like less than a thousand permanent with the possibility of a few thousand more in temporary accommodation should the need arise.. some say the plans are going to be like a garden of eden in england :) i mean they had farming in london over the years but this is going to be epic what they are planning for temple farm at chelmsford.. they are planting thousands (literally) of fruit trees, including tropical fruits in huge green houses, huge vines yards and then the same basic farming activities as before.

TheWonderofYou

Just doing google earth flight over the terrain.

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Morning all! Just here to say hi and join in the discussion

by park ave boy in

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i'm happy to join every ex-jw.borg site i can and support in whatever way i can.

i now regularly donate to these sites when available.

i'm bitter but i don't hate jws because they were brainwashed like we all were.

TheWonderofYou

Good morning.

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How did you feel when you found out "the truth about the truth"?

by stuckinarut2 in

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so when you first found out specific facts about the organisation, how did you feel??.

the un membership.

the way 1914 was calculated from pyramid measurements.

TheWonderofYou

All the issues mentioned in your post I was not aware of when I faded. That was 1990. Only after access to the internet I got these informations. While "active" (terrible word) I never knew of a pyramid story, the only thing I heard of in the 80's was 1975 but from a brainwashed "whitewashed" Wt perspective.

And the more I read about ever more latest "scandals" I was convinced that the whole "system" has to be changed and not only some minor points, some directives.

In my case a constant feeling of depression and loneliness in different forms as result of the JW lifestyle as single male combined with feeling of senselessness in face of the terrifyging outlook for forthcoming Armagedoon, as well as feeling of senseless efforts in service with parttimejob were the triggers that slowly opened my inner reasons and warnings bells. I stopped to believe in every word, while further playing happiness. I was in the age when a man should establish a family but was desilusioned and unsure, cause I couldnot see how I would ever really like live in JW family pattern situation, teaching children something aweful that I was not really convinced of, I appreciated only the love message of the bible. Sacrificing a child for the blood issue was not in my intention. After I undersigned the "blood card", I hided it and didnt even carry it with me.

When I realized that I could not speak really openely about difficult questions that I had about the blood issue or overexegerated usage of armagedon, i knew that I was trapped. I looked up the "blood" subject in a public library and found out what jewish and catolic thought about, and found the explanation more convincining, fortunately I began to read other things than watchtowers. For me these other books were an "aha-experience". The news since internet are even more convincing.

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Update on everything going on in JW Land - Insider Information

by thedepressedsoul in

i'd like to start off by saying that i will be very vague in everything i say.

i am fairly "high up" in jw land and have to be somewhat careful how i word and say stuff.

sorry in advance if any specific details are left out.

TheWonderofYou

I hope you find ways to cheer up, ways out of this depressive situation,avoid ruminating. How fine that you help others and are cool, do you have friends to talk with about.? Instead of merry chrismas gift I send you this link

http://www.wikihow.com/Cheer-Up

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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

by Daniel1555 in

the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

TheWonderofYou

If a need- to-be-disfellowshipped would be really so devian and dangerous for the congregation to deserve to be shunned....why the elders then follow the disfellowed-subject, trace the lost sheep, go behind it, speak with it and invite it to return to the congregation with words like "we really miss you"?

In most cases the disfellowshipped are not harrassers, professional whores and professional malesluts but only week and doubters of some doctrines, inexperienced, to much inobiedient, immature ?.

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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

by Daniel1555 in

the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

TheWonderofYou

What is most shocking is that these policies and practices are not subliminal taught but taught from the stage, even in interview form, as model conversation e.g. on conventions, a public demonstration to all how JW treat offender .

This makes the JW shunning not a personal decision but is a organisational guilt.

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35 Years Ago Today - John Lennon - Peace Advocate was Murdered

by flipper in

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in this age of violence with the san bernardino and france massacres sometimes it's good to reflect on the wise words of the peace advocates among us who proposed a better solution in bringing a more civil society to our universe.

john lennon, martin luther king jr. - people who stood up for equal rights and world peace and denounced violence and war - no matter how that violence occurs.

please feel free to comment on stories of john lennon on this thread and feel free to post any you tubes of his music that you may have enjoyed through the years.

TheWonderofYou

Peace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUW6nJQuDqM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7v3llJ0_5M

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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)

by Daniel1555 in

the following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".

7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.

for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.

TheWonderofYou

..hence she self-evidently turned down her future inheritance alike - own guilt - and leaves for the org to solicit for it. But anyway these excommunicated should have besides that furthermore a guilty conscience if after loosing inhertance they would not help the aged witnesses financially.

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THE OAF and the ONE-LEGGED MAN

by Terry in

the oaf and the one-legged man.

spatters of rain dribbled into unsettled silence.. the man with the prosthetic leg dropped the umbrella from his shoulder and shook it onto the sidewalk in front of the bookstore.

his scooter chair roosted nearby like a guide dog for a blind man.. steadying himself, he exchanged tattered raingear for his cane and wobbled uneasily toward the door handle.a tall man with a van dyke beard held the door open for him with a neighborly grin.. "you get caught in this downpour on that thing?

TheWonderofYou

Wonderful self reflexio? contemplation? enriched with so many vivid details of Dubs daily struggle. The details made me laugh more than once...how he handles the seemingly endless series of difficulties. The whole situations is a little bit funny and sarcastic at once, but never base rather lovely personalities apear, like yours.

Some passages like ."played appreciation towards clients"

" the temperature was fifteen degrees too cold "

"As he speaks he deliberately speeds up his work" have drawn my attention.

It was interesting how you describe persons and objects (like the cup) interact and become part of the adventure, on a little spot in a corner of a bookshop.

Terry, Have it been experiences like those that made you to an author?