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  Start A Butterfly Garden!

  by Bonsai in

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  time to take a break from debating religion.

  take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?

  how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?

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  Does this flower have a butterfly a friend?
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  Tried One Last Time In The Kingdom Hall...

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. experiences

  so last thursday was meeting day.

  my wife knows my thoughts on this religion and respects my fade and is completely ok with it (which surprised me, and also made me love her even more).

  i think she must know it's all crack-pot stuff but seeing as her whole family are all in and about 98% of them cant even explain their beleifs without a watchtower on hand i think she's just going along for the friends/family/social side of it.

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  You delivered insight in todays pharasean selfrightious behaviour in the congregation.

  I remember a similar incidence: once upon a time after I had received a public reproof and had lost all my important offices in the congregation, it was that I tried to attend the assembly happily thinking about my lost appointments and the value of this reproof, then happened a strange thing. I must have been looking depressed and shattered while I held yet the mic for some imporant answers of loving brothers, the mic-slave service I had done over the last 10 years was the only remaining job for me.

  Than one of those anointed remnant members sat in a row and could not hold back commenting about me. While i passed him, he spoke silently but obviously attention-grabbing to his wife: "He will leave us, he is not one of us". He didnot know me privately at all and we had never been in service out over all the time but judgment over me was easy.
  That was really upbuilding.
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  EXISTENTIAL topic: Why is Paradise or Heaven the solution to anything?

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  gather around the campfire, boys and girls.. i have a little journey for us all to take together.. long, long ago in this universe not so far away .

  .we were told a story.______________once in timeless nothingness, there existed a timeless being we now call god.whatever "perfection" is or was--god was.

  god was perfect.. but wait--that's not all!and here is where the story begins!.

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  TheWonderofYou

  Dear Terry, what a fortuity. I am exactly now reading about the contentment in a book written by Dalai Lama himself. For the moment I am so surprised abouth this happening that I am quite breathless. So I hope to be ably to contribute to your campfire in this evening under the stars some thoughts about a happy God in "heaven".
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  "New light" on who will put the “mark” during the “great tribulation” (Wt june 2016)

  by redpilltwice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  three days ago, we could read about a great new book on wt doctrinal changes here: .

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6217992945795072/ever-changing-teachings-jehovahs-witnesses-probably-most-comprehensive-compendium-about-watchtower-doctrinal-changes.

  this book is not the only one in its kind, but it truly kicks ass!

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  TheWonderofYou

  Now it is 102 years that we live in the kingdom. (Hooray!) Imagine how it will be if we looked back after 1000 years or millions years, as Bro. HERD encourages under this earthly kingdom. We would not recognize the "trooth" anymore as "truuth" after so much time! Instruction by implanted tools and cyber-virtual meetings with GB-indoctrinators.

  Hence "Keeping pace" is a really necessary and a good means to investigate your "doctrinal strength or weakness" in times of tribulation and in the face of growing mistrust in the Governing Body, "Jehovah-orientation and Jehovah-mindedness" are always a positive potential, with the aim to focus on any CHANGE that could abruptly appear.

  Jesus will be easily able to mark his friends nonetheless. In any case its better that Jesus does the MARKING than ANY elder in the congregation, think only of the fact how many of us have suffered through their marking-acts.
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

  1. jw
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  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  TheWonderofYou

  Hi, I believe in that that Jesus wanted to tell people something, what it was exactly is hard to explain, because we will in other times. But I believe that Jesus wanted a church and that he would accept all of us the doubters, skepctics, querists..... this was his mission to let the love shine like a bonfire. For jesus Gods love, the holy spirit" should come and live in peoples heart, that would be the kindgom of what he spoke. I believe that Jesus looked after the sense of the commandments and that we are allowed to do the same.
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  Simon: What happens when you can no longer support this site?

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  hey simon, .

  the recent closure of jwr made me realize that this site may not be eternal as well.

  a great deal of people attach a lot of importance to xjw communities and yours is the best.

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  TheWonderofYou

  

  What is this?

  Its a Google DATA CENTER

  How much data does google store?

  a) 10-15 exabytes (2014)

  b) Look up and imagine punch cards for 3 miles

  
  

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  Google holds somewhere around 10-15 exabytes of data. If you are in the majority of the population that doesn’t know what an exabyte is, no worries.An exabyte equals 1 million terabytes, a figure that may be a bit easier to relate to. Using our estimate earlier of a personal computer holding around 500 GB, that would mean 1 exabyte would equal 2 million personal computers, and Google's 15 exabytes would be around 30

  We should note that Google does not have the largest data center in the world. If you're curious to see who does, we've written another post to tell you all about who does.

  Source: "How much data does google store, by Colin Carson 18,November 2014
  https://www.cirrusinsight.com/blog/how-much-data-does-google-store___

  
  We’ve written before about how much data Google stores (it’s staggering), but Google might not store the most data, and definitely doesn’t have the biggest data center. The NSA is suspected to potentially hold the most data out of anyone, though there’s a few other top contenders. But everyone likes to cloak themselves in secrecy. Makes sense. It’s cool to have secrets.

  Source: Joshua Loomis, January 26,2016

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  Compared to the impressive total volume of stored data at Google

  How much would be the shared storage used of this forum?

  P.S.

  Tour through Google data center: http://www.wired.com/2012/10/ff-inside-google-data-center/
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  Bethel "Vow of Poverty" documents scanned.

  by What-A-Coincidence in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  vow of poverty scanned from 2002 documents.

  i believe these are the latest ones unless someone has a newer one.

  i posted these in another thread but i thought it deserved its own.. ocrd with 98% accuracy.... initial cover page 1 of 4. vow of obedience and povertyto the.

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  TheWonderofYou

  What is the difference between self-sacrificing order-members and pecuniary motivation?
  

  (the vow..) "It documents the understanding through which each member of the Order provides his services, something that assists governmental agencies to understand better the self-sacrificing rather than pecuniary motivation of those who serve in special full-time service."
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  Sheep and the Goats - The Light Gets Brighter

  by nmthinker in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  perhaps some of you remember a new understanding of the sheep and the goats in the epic march 2015 wt study edition - specifically the article "loyally supporting christ's brothers".. while this article was studied many months ago, it was instrumental in helping me wake up.

  during my study of the 2015 article i recalled that we had just revised our understanding of the sheep and the goats a few years ago and this caused me to research the real progression of the jw understanding of this parable.

  i put the results of my research in an excel spreadsheet.. .

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  Shepherd, Sheep & Goats
  by Rev. Ed Visser

  "The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not be in want. He makes me lay down in green pastures, he leads me beside quiet waters, he restores my soul. He guides me in paths of righteousness for his name’s sake." Psalm 23:1-3

  We were traveling through the Judean desert toward Jerusalem when we saw it. Coming over one of the many hills, we spotted this pastoral scene, of which I quickly snapped a picture. It’s a typical scene in the land, a bedouin shepherd leading his sheep and goats to food. And yet, the scene before us was atypical of the images we hold in our mind when we read passages like Psalm 23. Admit it! You probably don’t envision “green pastures” that look like sand dunes (where’s the green?).

  After all, what’s more like real life? God plopping you down in a field of lush grass, giving you everything you need for your lifetime? Or God leading you, day-by-day, to little tufts of grass, just enough to get you through the day but demanding that you trust him for the next day (“give us this day our daily bread”)?

  What’s more like real life? God showing you a nicely paved path and reminding you not to stray off it? Or God leading you, in the midst of a maze of different paths you could choose, down the path that will allow you to live rightly and find sustenance for life (rather than the edge of a cliff)?

  You will notice that the shepherd is out in front of his flock — leading them, not driving them like cattle. God wants our relationship with Him to be one of hearing his voice & following, RATHER THAN HAVING TO BE "DRIVEN" TO HEAR AND OBEY. [bold mine ]. True sheep, as Jesus notes in John 10, hear his voice and follow.

  But sometimes we don’t follow; we go our own way. What then? Well, Jesus reminds us that a good shepherd will go out to seek and save his lost sheep, for they are precious to him. But there are limits; there will be a time when sheep & goats will be separated, and different fate will await them both. Why did Jesus differentiate between these two types of flocks? After all, in Israel you generally see sheep & goats grazing together. But look closely at this picture. The group of animals in a neat circle nearest the shepherd are sheep; the rest scattered on the hillside are goats. Apparently this is common, for while sheep are good followers, goats often have a mind of their own. Goats have an independent streak which causes them to stray.
  
  Do we?

  ..... and how does a good shepard lead?

  

  

  
  
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  Think for Yourself: Reform Judaism Uses JW Blood Issue For Shavuot

  by David_Jay in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as the jewish holy day of shavuot (pentecost) begins this weekend, the reform judaism site publishes an interesting article entitled "judaism teaches: question authority, think for yourself.".

  the article employs a jewish doctor's recollection of a jw patient who refused blood and died as an example of how both religious traditions greatly differ on how they see and apply god's law.. shavuot is the day jews recall god's giving the law to israel.

  the article is significant in that it demonstrates how jews see the giving of the law as a call to questioning authority, including divine revelation itself whereas the death of the jw patient is contrasted as a slavish interpretation that misses the point behind jewish scripture.. for more see the article at:.

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  Sorry I was not able to delete the last post. Although an"something or other" it has common with the OP.
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  The Weed AMONG the wheat ..NOT.."the weed overgrowed the wheat" Misunderstood parabel about anointed and about Gods patience

  by TheWonderofYou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  referring to tim3l0rd who posted 12 days ago following message (see below) and the postings in which the "scattered" non organised anointed from 100 ce - 1900 ce are discussed, and the parabel of the weed among the wheat, i found out that it is not necessary at all that a "slave class" of anointed does itself distincts frome the weed , founds a new separated church,declares itself clean and holy, and begins a denunciating and destructive unnecessary harvesting.

  the slave class of anointed should have better remained in the church and waited for jesus judgement.basis: .

  tim310rd wrote: this goes along with the 2013 wt that changed the definition of the fdsl.

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  My argument was that wheat and weed very well produced always fruit and that thus the faithful slave is very well 1900 years old. That was Governing Body's Brother Splane explicit declaration that there was not slave before 1919. https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/VODProgramsEvents/pub-jwbmw_201506_1_VIDEO

  Further info and summary here, thanks to Beroean Pickets!

  http://meletivivlon.com/2015/06/13/morning-worship-part-the-slave-is-not-1900-years-old/

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  Check up this interesting link:

  I came to see that 1914 has no scriptural significance whatsoever. That 1919 does not mark the appointment of the faithful steward. That there is no Scriptural basis for the Governing Body to assume the title of faithful and discreet slave.

  From "Where else can we go" by Meleti Vivlon
  http://meletivivlon.com/2015/08/02/where-else-can-we-go/