What a cynical name of the Gun shop "Armaggedon Gun Shop". Even this name could activate in disturbed minds a need to do something. Either that person hides itself in a bunker and hopes to survive the coming war or it plans an attack because it sees in Armageddon the pattern of a final solution to destroy all enemies.
TheWonderofYou
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JANESVILLE WI HI-POWERED GUNS STOLEN, FBI SAYS DANGEROUS, MANIFESTO SENT TO WHITE HOUSE
by blondie inhttp://www.wisn.com/article/officials-janesville-man-subject-of-manhunt-sent-threatening-manifesto-to-trump/9245932.
http://madison365.com/21587-2/.
besides sweden and syria news..
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RUSSIA: (7 April 2017) Day 3 - Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way
by Drearyweather inin moscow, a soft rain drizzles.
along the facade of the supreme court stretched a large queue of those who came to the process as listeners.
a large bus is parked at the courthouse on povarskaya street, full of obviously bored police officers.
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TheWonderofYou
I also hope very much that an amicable solution will be found. There are good example in other countries how religious law was established succesfully without any bans or false accusations. But everyside has to play with open cards and not hide behind legal structures. Confrontation is not the solution. Errors have to be admitted, problematic procedures in the JW internal law have to mentioned and discussed. Errors of the Ministry of Justice are obviously. The Russian ministry of Justice should engage more with the Jehovahs witness faith. Its obvious that the they are not good prepared.
This world needs more love and not unneccesary confronfations.
Perhaps an amicable solution in this case with Jehovahs witnesses will encourage Russian authorities and publicity to think unbiased and to begin a process of consolidation of civil rights in this and in other areas, what Russia really needs. Even Turkey has found a way to live with the witnesses why should not Russia find a way too.
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RUSSIA: (7 April 2017) Day 3 - Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way
by Drearyweather inin moscow, a soft rain drizzles.
along the facade of the supreme court stretched a large queue of those who came to the process as listeners.
a large bus is parked at the courthouse on povarskaya street, full of obviously bored police officers.
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TheWonderofYou
Perhaps helpful as analogy:
Canon law (Wikipedia) is the body of laws and regulations made by ecclesiastical authority (Church leadership), for the government of a Christian organization or church and its members. It is the internal ecclesiastical law, or operational policy, governing the Catholic Church (both the Latin Church and the Eastern Catholic Churches), the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox churches, and the individual national churches within the Anglican Communion.[1] The way that such church law is legislated, interpreted and at times adjudicated varies widely among these three bodies of churches. In all three traditions, a canon was originally a rule adopted by a church council; these canons formed the foundation of canon law.Likewise members of the JW local organisations are treated according to ecclesiastial law, authority and jurisdiction. In this Jehovahs Witnesses' "canon law" they have to follow the rules and policy of the governing body and the Russian branch office, which is the ecclesiastical authority.
This JW-own "canon law" and its jurisdiction - rights and responsibilites - are therefore different from the rights and responsibiliites of the legal registered MPOs mentioned in the hearing.
Although there might be no legal connection according to Civil right between the branch office and the local congregation and they are founded idependently, and members are not obliged to report each other, there is a absolute canonic responsibiliity to report anything, the money, the hours of service, the sins, child abuse to the branch office, to follow the ecclesiasticl instructions of the branch office.
The branch office even appoints the overseers of the local congregations. There is no democratic process of idependent congregations. Here is existant an absolute canon law of a the JW-church that says, the local congregation has to report to the headquarter. The central office decides also about selling of assets.
The "ecclesiastical authorities" in the local congregation, the elders, are very much depending on the decision of the "branch office" and are deciding few things indepentently. E.g. in cases of child abuse it is the elders duty to contact the legal desk of the "branch office".
These instructions are regulated in a guide "Shepherding the flock", which are part of the "canonic law" of JW together with letters by the branch or GB of JW, which has to be obeyed absolutely.
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RUSSIA: (7 April 2017) Day 3 - Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way
by Drearyweather inin moscow, a soft rain drizzles.
along the facade of the supreme court stretched a large queue of those who came to the process as listeners.
a large bus is parked at the courthouse on povarskaya street, full of obviously bored police officers.
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TheWonderofYou
Dont make angry the Russian Bear! The bear knows what extremism is.
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RUSSIA: (7 April 2017) Day 3 - Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way
by Drearyweather inin moscow, a soft rain drizzles.
along the facade of the supreme court stretched a large queue of those who came to the process as listeners.
a large bus is parked at the courthouse on povarskaya street, full of obviously bored police officers.
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TheWonderofYou
"proven" harm of psychological oppression of the own members, of course no physical harm of members or others except the nearly inforcement of members to not accept any blood products.
http://watchtowerdocuments.org/why-it-is-dangerous-to-associate-with-jehovahs-witnesses-speech/
http://watchtowerdocuments.org/woman-allowed-assisted-suicide-why/
protecting offenders of child abuse more than the victims, victims must tell intime details at a cult-own judicial hearing and furhter have contact with the offender in the same local organisation.
cutting of family ties if you want change religion, depression, suicides possible
strategic method in education of avoiding higher education of children of JW
ad criticizing other religions: The "extreme" criticizing attitude or even denunciation of the catolic and orthodox churches in the literature is well known, naming all other religions "harlot babylon", speaking of the soon coming innihalation of firstly the old churches and the clergy-class by the actually the United Nations-allied troups was and is long the recipe of distinction or fantasy of the JW-writers, a unbearable dogma in the 21 century.
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RUSSIA: (7 April 2017) Day 3 - Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way
by Drearyweather inin moscow, a soft rain drizzles.
along the facade of the supreme court stretched a large queue of those who came to the process as listeners.
a large bus is parked at the courthouse on povarskaya street, full of obviously bored police officers.
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TheWonderofYou
Суд пытается понять - the court is trying to understand
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Circuit hall for sale - Netherlands (even has a website)
by Anony Mous inhttps://congreshal.nl/.
built in 1966, renovated 4 times since last in 2011, they then built a new one for eur 8m and sold this one.. roughly translated: the foundation for building and exploitation of congregation buildings of jehovah's witnesses (department bennekom) is happy to announce the sale of the congregation hall at edesweg 147 in bennekom.. the well maintained building of approximately 5700 sq meters divided in two layers with approximately 300 parking places on included property offers great possibilities for various fits.. on the edge of the "food valley" and "knowledge axis" lays the place bennekom currently fully under development.
both the reachability and the compartments of the buildings offer the space for various fits and cooperation between interested parties.. .
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TheWonderofYou
Its getting a bit long in the tooth although so much people worked here voluntary and for the only true and real kingdom that exists, tearing down and building the new one here was here no alternative.
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RUSSIA: (7 April 2017) Day 3 - Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way
by Drearyweather inin moscow, a soft rain drizzles.
along the facade of the supreme court stretched a large queue of those who came to the process as listeners.
a large bus is parked at the courthouse on povarskaya street, full of obviously bored police officers.
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TheWonderofYou
FSEM - What exactly? If only this list of literature is a basis of an accusation for "extremism" then really each piece of literature (or passage in the literature) which is included should be at the moment of inclusiion ben notarially documented and a accompanied by a serious argument by the ministry of justice and not only ad-hoc.
LRO - Local regional organisations - the legal entities - hundreds of congregations and otther entities, right?
MPO ....
...legal certainty .. interesting.
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RUSSIA: (7 April 2017) Day 3 - Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way
by Drearyweather inin moscow, a soft rain drizzles.
along the facade of the supreme court stretched a large queue of those who came to the process as listeners.
a large bus is parked at the courthouse on povarskaya street, full of obviously bored police officers.
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TheWonderofYou
Thanks. I like the short summaries.
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Circuit hall for sale - Netherlands (even has a website)
by Anony Mous inhttps://congreshal.nl/.
built in 1966, renovated 4 times since last in 2011, they then built a new one for eur 8m and sold this one.. roughly translated: the foundation for building and exploitation of congregation buildings of jehovah's witnesses (department bennekom) is happy to announce the sale of the congregation hall at edesweg 147 in bennekom.. the well maintained building of approximately 5700 sq meters divided in two layers with approximately 300 parking places on included property offers great possibilities for various fits.. on the edge of the "food valley" and "knowledge axis" lays the place bennekom currently fully under development.
both the reachability and the compartments of the buildings offer the space for various fits and cooperation between interested parties.. .
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TheWonderofYou
Good morning
Here as info a Google Street view 360 surround shot.
The place is located ideal at the motorway. A good place for an educational institution, a private college or a shopping mall.
Thats funny:
You translated "The Foundation for Building and Exploitation of Congregation", whereas the
object of investments' homepage says "the foundation of construction and operation of meeting places".