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TheWonderofYou
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What will you be doing on the evening of the 11th ?
by Phizzy inmrs phizzy and myself will be eating out, sure in the knowledge we will not have jw's using the same restaurant.. i may have a cigar along with my brandy at the meal's end to celebrate my (our) freedom..
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Animals, Blood, Food, and JW Beliefs
by dubstepped ini'm just thinking aloud here.
i watched a show yesterday and they were talking about how the largest mammals of the sea (whales) fed on such small creatures (plankton) rather than eating some other large creatures.
anyway, it got me thinking about how as jws we thought that in paradise animals would all be herbivores, that they would no longer eat other animals.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear At The 4-9-2017 WT Study (PURPOSE)(FEBRUARY 2017)
by blondie inblondie’s comments you will not hear at the april 9, 2017 wt study (february 2017) (purpose).
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-february-2017/gods-purpose-will-be-fulfilled/.
excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .
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TheWonderofYou
What I learned this week:
---------------------------------If man was created in gods image than WHY man so fast made problems?
Answer: Because he didnt function in the role as chesspiece in the game of sovereignty.
The Creator spoke to Adam and instructed him on how to show his obedience. Adam also learned how to take care of his needs and how to care for the animals and the land.
- God " instructed him on how to show his obedience." God is in the innerst a dictatorial god
- As dictator god he leads in a dictatorial style and makes order and wants us to be submissive slaves class members.
- As dictator "god" he is interested in his "Sovereignty" on the first place, its his highest goal, its the game of the unviverse, all have to take part and are chesspieces in the game of sovereinty.
- Adam sinned so fast because he didnt understand the lession in obedience, that he was part of big game.
- The universal family needs order and obedience.
- Jehovah is the universal family head that deserves respect and honor.
- "That perfect man would need to be loyal to Jehovah and be willing to give his life in exchange for doomed humanity." - mankind is doome
- Jehovah also instruct his son Jesus how to show obedience and to function, to live up to his role in the sovereignty game.
19 Gratitude for the ransom should motivate us to do all we can to make others aware that they can benefit from that priceless gift. People need to know that the ransom is the means by which Jehovah lovingly offers all mankind the prospect of everlasting life. Still, the ransom accomplished even more than that. The next article will consider how Jesus’ sacrifice also addresses the moral issues that were raised by Satan back in the garden of Eden.
priceless gift or offer?
As without acceptance of god sovereignty the gift is worthless it remains an offer.
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WT Society Creates the Atmosphere which Spawns Child Abuse in Congregations
by flipper inbeen thinking about this lately after almost 14 years out of the jw cult myself.
when you think of the language used within the jehovah's witness organization in such a closed society environment in how the wt society promotes almost absolute " trust " in the elders , the governing body, and trust even in the " friends " in the congregation themselves- is it any wonder that unscrupulous child molesters can enter any congregation pretending to be " spiritual " and take advantage of unsuspecting children or the parents ?
think about it : an individual is judged as a " spiritual " person within the jw organization based on what wt functions or duties they are good at performing.
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In this ideological frame of a completely surrendered, open minded sheeps the disfellowshipment (DF) has a perfect fitting role in the system of funcionalized obidience.
On one hand disfellowshipment is not really so much a chastidy method for healing a weak charakter than it is useful to control „the performing of the WT-functionalism“. It doesnt play so much role in reality what kind of character-problem one admits, how fast and if one repents at all internallly, but what counts is to show publicly that everything is okay, to perform activity. Not to perform in the boundaries of this system of WT-functionalism is seen as "disobidience".
On the other hand disfellowshipment is the ideal measure that makes the ideological system of trusting a „good associtation“ complete. In fact through the complete separation of the fellows from the disfellowshipped the impression appears for the sheep of being in a safe haven in the congregation, that the good assosiation is yet more clean, yet more trustworthy if its protected by the chastidy of disfellowshipmment. The fellows so close ranks and trust only the fellows who are good association.
An offender would try to function and to remain so in good standing. The victim would funtion and try to obey and hear to the elders and not be loud but silent, because disobidience is worse than a sin.
The offender has to play the innocent because he doesnt want to loose the only power he has namely observe the funtions of those who fear him, because he has no real friends, but only functions, he doesnt want to loose his authority and functions and tries to misuse them to protect the position if necessary. He wants to remain good association and spiritual leader for the other family-substitute friends.
The victim likewise wants to remain within the bounders of "good association" and keeps silent not to loose its good standing or because this would be against the order or could end in disfellowshipment.
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Pretoria resident says - before high court in South Africa - he is the anointed one !
by ZAPPA-ESQUE inpretoria [ south africa] - an unusual urgent application served before the gauteng high court this week,in which a lyttelton manor resident, who said he is was known as the “anointed one” among jehovah’s witnesses, asked the court to officially swear him in as the worldwide leader of the organisation.. ernest gericke, in papers before the court, told judge bill prinsloo that the “first business of the christ is the legal establishment of the kingdom of god on earth, known as the jehovah’s kingdom.” .
gericke said this involved the the conducting of a covenant for a kingdom, which is to take place on april 11. .
“in order to effect the legal requirements for the kingdom this honourable court is requested to hear the public oath of the office of the king.
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TheWonderofYou
There is Miller who is Christ in Australia, EX-JW, since 2007
There is another Jesus in Russia, Vissarion, interview with im at 20.00, Serjey Torop
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Circuit hall for sale - Netherlands (even has a website)
by Anony Mous inhttps://congreshal.nl/.
built in 1966, renovated 4 times since last in 2011, they then built a new one for eur 8m and sold this one.. roughly translated: the foundation for building and exploitation of congregation buildings of jehovah's witnesses (department bennekom) is happy to announce the sale of the congregation hall at edesweg 147 in bennekom.. the well maintained building of approximately 5700 sq meters divided in two layers with approximately 300 parking places on included property offers great possibilities for various fits.. on the edge of the "food valley" and "knowledge axis" lays the place bennekom currently fully under development.
both the reachability and the compartments of the buildings offer the space for various fits and cooperation between interested parties.. .
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TheWonderofYou
The organisation is in a real flow, in which it applies the financial rules that are known common under bankers. Besides the professional management of assets, they forget that in economics there has always been a basic rule, to act fair with all partners.
With such exploitation of the members where the profit remains at one happy smiling side, and the donators are happy to bear the operating costs with their dontations but exclusion of profits and of co-decision, it is an unfair game perhaps comparable with even things like usury or gombeen. The members are the renters.
usury - the practice of making unethical or immoral monetary loans that unfairly enrich the lender.
The First Council of Nicaea, in 325, forbade clergy from engaging in usury[13] (canon 17). At the time, usury was interest of any kind, and the canon forbade the clergy to lend money at interest rates even as low as 1 percent per year. Later ecumenical councils applied this regulation to the laity.[13][14]
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Proof they are not a cult??
by lriddle80 inthe following is from a facebook post and..maybe i am missing something, but none of these items disprove them being in a cult.
jehovah's witnesses are often mistaken to be something else.
some say it a secret cult while others believe something else.......i'm very proud to tell you my readers that i'm one of jehovah's witnesses.. below are 17 facts that shows jehovah's witness is not a cult..... 1. there are currently about 8 million jehovah's witnesses around the world.. 2. an average of over 800 people become jehovah's witnesses daily.. 3. we keep coming to your doors even though we have regular jobs and family like you because we are admonished to do so by jesus christ.. 4. we do not participate in wars and for this reason more than 1600 jehovah's witnesses were killed by hitler.. 5. there are currently over 300 jehovah's witnesses in prison in south korea and egypt because they refused to stop preaching or enlist in the military.. 6. we don't salute the flag or say national anthems because we pledge our allegiance only to god.. 7. yes we have fun and party too so don't get that twisted.. 8. not many of us know the name of the president of our headquarters because we do not pay any reference to him he is a fellow servant of god just like the rest of us are.. 9. you earn the privilege of becoming a jehovah's witness.
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99.9 we have an internal alert system to protect victims of child abuse. other congregations are informed in lighning-speed about potential offenders, no other group has it, victims are asked if they not encouraged the offenders to avoid further stress.
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Proof they are not a cult??
by lriddle80 inthe following is from a facebook post and..maybe i am missing something, but none of these items disprove them being in a cult.
jehovah's witnesses are often mistaken to be something else.
some say it a secret cult while others believe something else.......i'm very proud to tell you my readers that i'm one of jehovah's witnesses.. below are 17 facts that shows jehovah's witness is not a cult..... 1. there are currently about 8 million jehovah's witnesses around the world.. 2. an average of over 800 people become jehovah's witnesses daily.. 3. we keep coming to your doors even though we have regular jobs and family like you because we are admonished to do so by jesus christ.. 4. we do not participate in wars and for this reason more than 1600 jehovah's witnesses were killed by hitler.. 5. there are currently over 300 jehovah's witnesses in prison in south korea and egypt because they refused to stop preaching or enlist in the military.. 6. we don't salute the flag or say national anthems because we pledge our allegiance only to god.. 7. yes we have fun and party too so don't get that twisted.. 8. not many of us know the name of the president of our headquarters because we do not pay any reference to him he is a fellow servant of god just like the rest of us are.. 9. you earn the privilege of becoming a jehovah's witness.
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We are under the most persecuted and politically suppressed religions worldwide.
We have fought for the religious rights and human rights for all people at countless supreme courts
We went volunterily to the concentration camps for conscientious objection.
We protect our children from influeneces of negative moral like pornography.
We protect our children from dangerous cults and traditions like the grampus or woodo
Our modest outfit and reasonablenees as well as education in the magazins protects our young ones from being victims of abuse
our assemblies are the most secure places in the world
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Proof they are not a cult??
by lriddle80 inthe following is from a facebook post and..maybe i am missing something, but none of these items disprove them being in a cult.
jehovah's witnesses are often mistaken to be something else.
some say it a secret cult while others believe something else.......i'm very proud to tell you my readers that i'm one of jehovah's witnesses.. below are 17 facts that shows jehovah's witness is not a cult..... 1. there are currently about 8 million jehovah's witnesses around the world.. 2. an average of over 800 people become jehovah's witnesses daily.. 3. we keep coming to your doors even though we have regular jobs and family like you because we are admonished to do so by jesus christ.. 4. we do not participate in wars and for this reason more than 1600 jehovah's witnesses were killed by hitler.. 5. there are currently over 300 jehovah's witnesses in prison in south korea and egypt because they refused to stop preaching or enlist in the military.. 6. we don't salute the flag or say national anthems because we pledge our allegiance only to god.. 7. yes we have fun and party too so don't get that twisted.. 8. not many of us know the name of the president of our headquarters because we do not pay any reference to him he is a fellow servant of god just like the rest of us are.. 9. you earn the privilege of becoming a jehovah's witness.
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18. We are preaching the good news with the latest multimedia techniques and possess the coolest bible study aids like JW bread-cast, WOLibraray, specialized educational tools in Braille and for minority languages as well as our conventions, with which we finance a lot.
19. Although we are also imperfect and err we try to apologize and always correct our ways and teachings as soon we learn that something doesnt fit.
20. We have an theorically unmanageable large number of legal entities who nevertheless all follow one direction under one lord and one faith.
21. We have the best renovations program for halls and place of worship.
22. We have relief programs and are able to organise fast international help.
23. We have the most beautiful religious headquarter of all religions, it was built although it looked like the town government wouldnt give the allowance for the project, because it was unbelievable what we tried.
24. We are supporting a health system that protects peoples right to avoid blood that is dangerous.
25. Our education of children is the best because it relies on principle that are proofed by the bible. Our mothers are mostly with the children and dont work because they have part time job.
26. Going from house to house and in the street service we try to help people if they need help.
27. Our leaders are not idle and proud but take themselves part in the preaching and donate money from the little compensation that they receive for their service for others who need help.
28. We have a worldwide network of lawyers with which we are able to support implementation of human rights for religious minorites. We are assisting the UN-Human rights activities and the European OSCE work for peace and security because we are the best citizens one can imagine.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Knocking at my Front Door
by Richlist ini have jw's knocking on my door about 4 times a year.
they walk along the whole street knocking on all the properties trying to hand out leaflets about god.. i always engage them in conversation.
my street has a very large number of oap's who could really do with some extra help.....grass cutting, shopping, cleaning, help around the house, gardening, diy etc.. never once have i been able to persuade any jw's to do something worthwhile for these residents.. i'm left with the thought that jw's don't want to do anything really worthwhile for these people.......why ?.
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TheWonderofYou
"the good news is proclaimed to the poor".
How it works: If you come to us you get many friends and you will really enjoy your life, by living much simplier and much poor than now and then you will get an appointement to serve voluntarily and unpaid to proclaim this message to other poor. The poor are ready to give from what the dont have, thats the strength of the poor.