Posts by TheWonderofYou

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Sanderson's hate speech

by Listener in

gb member sanderson has given a hate speech in response to the recent russian ban.

it was given as a morning worship rant.

sanderson sports his usual smirk.. he opens up quoting matthew 10:22, 23 about persecution.

TheWonderofYou

He claims that Russian Brothers have reports of inactive ones, former Bible studies and relatives contacting JWs because of what they see in Russia - they know the end is close at hand.

Oddly enough again Jehovah uses inactive ones and former studies to reveal the next HYPE, that the end is close. We give not dates about the end but inactive ones and former studies know it for sure. Also JW dont want to get into the next speculation, to avoid the big disappointments and frustrations as well as adjustements afterwards, but if now already non-believers and inactive ones forecast the end, okay, perhaps it is more certain than if Watchtower predicts it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzQHfzwbpc0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKp_qTHb19w

Lession.

Merkel calls on Putin to support GAYS and Jehovahs witnesses.

Merkel is helping JW (like counterimage Rahab) and at the same time inactive ones KNOW and reveal that the end is close (Rahabs inactive and doubting household). This help and assistance of Merkel and inactive ones they can use as cord in the window to survive the coming armagedonnic re-war-d, survival is the prize in this war.

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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

TheWonderofYou

most of those who had the wrong expectations made the needed adjustments and they stayed.

Casestudy:

If grandpa was one of those who simplyfied life and pioneered as exemplary christians: He was frustrated, and the needed adjustment for him was to ignore the doubts and to keep silent with the purpose to remain in good standing, simplyfing life is anyhow the best way to serve J even if it is perverted by a date. Yeah, in the green bible is no date Adjustment: "Change your view of dates and accept the fact that we changed and adjusted too"!!

If grandpa was however not coming over his frustration and would have questioned the society deeper and over a longer period and would have not aggreed to "the adjustment" he would have lost his good standing and so even his family. Adjustment: "Think of your children and remain faithful. "!

If grandpa was one of the minority who not believed in the date, he was certainly not a pioneer perhaps a rebel, he would have anyhow had to adjust any rebelious gossips about what was written and expected and keep silent as well to remain in good standing. Adjustment: "Dont stumble your weakened frustrated brother by unnecessary talking about 1975"!

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The young ones present at this years convention will not realise what really happened, because the older will not tell them the truth anyhow. 1975 and dates exist in a fog of negative image. Talking about it would stop any conservation. Or will the olders now being proud about what they lived through, "Happy us who we lived in 1975!" Those good old times when we could endure some speculation and how much it helped us to love Jehova more and prepare for the coming end. And will all grandpas now begin to tell of these old times, how they wondered why so many believed in dates or men (Franz) and not really in Jehova and went away. Oh how it was thrilling and dramatic in 1975.

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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

TheWonderofYou

ENDURANCE meant for granpa after 1975 in reality:

Forget your former friends, who left because they did believe in dates or have been excommunicated because they stumbled and accused the society that it had provoked such hopes with the chronology, forget them, dont speak with them if they blame the society, they became apostates, they are not our friends, those date-believing apostates. Now believe in the new explanation that we got from the slave, namely that "some JW believed in dates and were not true christians". Dont speak with those who make a charge with the society what we have written or said at conventions. Dont be sad about your former sister and brothers who left us. Endure and listen, obey to what the elders now tell you.

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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

TheWonderofYou

Awake 1968 The increase of lawlessness,,, the 1968 generation was a rebellious one.

1968 protests .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_of_1968

This is my assumption: JW interpreted this lawlessness of the 1968 as a certain sign of the nearing of the end besides the chronology. So JW again are only reacting on the world events

like also Rutherford reacted on the great depression 1919 and the release of prison of WT-direcots, the fear facists, the fear of communists and the cooperation between dictators and the church.
all his thelogy are reaction on the world events. ikewise the 1914 theology was seen true after the world war - a reaction on world events. Each horrible world event was interpreted as sign of end.

ENDURANCE meant for granpa in reality: forget your former friends, who left because they did believe in dates or have been excommunicated because they stumbled, forget them, dont speak with them, they became apostates, they are not our friends, those date-believing apostates. Now believe in the new explanation that we got from the slave, namely that "some JW believed in dates and were not true christians".

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Is this the end of blood donation? Scientists close to unlimited supply from stem cells

by TTaTT4U in

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/05/17/end-blood-donationscientists-close-unlimited-supply-stem-cells/.

sarah knapton, science editor .

17 may 2017 • 6:00pmblood donors may no longer be needed in the future after scientists showed it was possible to create blood from stem cells.. the 20 year project could pave the way for an unlimited number of blood and immune cells for transplants, simply by reprogramming a patient’s own skin cells.. the research, reported in the journal nature, holds out enormous promise for developing personalised treatments for blood disorders, drug-screening and reducing shortages of donated blood.. dr ryohichi sugimura, of boston children's hospital, said: "this gives us the potential to have a limitless supply of blood stem cells and blood by taking cells from universal donors.

TheWonderofYou

This may be a similar or competitive research on red blood cells from stem cells

http://www.haematologica.org/content/early/2014/10/14/haematol.2014.108068

Isabel Dorn, Katharina Klich, Marcos J. Arauzo-Bravo, Martina Radstaak, Simon Santourlidis,
Foued Ghanjati, Teja F. Radke, Olympia E. Psathaki, Gunnar Hargus, Jan Kramer, Martin Einhaus,
Jeong B. Kim, Gesine Koegler, Peter Wernet, Hans R. Schöler, Peter Schlenke, Holm Zaehres

Peter Schlenke /Graz and Isabel Dorn

Univ. Dr. Peter Schlenke, Member of the Board of the University Clinic for Blood Group Serology and Transfusion Medicine, Medical University of Graz, has recently been awarded a prize at the 48th anniversary of the German Society for Transfusion Medicine and Immunohematology, in recognition of his outstanding and innovative research in the field of immunohematology and related disciplines Basel with the Philip Levine Award. The prize of EUR 10,000.00 is awarded for two years to the memory of Philip Levine, an American immunologist and hematologist, and an outstanding pioneer of blood serum serology. https://www.medunigraz.at/neues/detail/news/blut-grazer-spitzenforschung/

Artificial blood substitute in the center of Graz's research
For a long time, the committed scientist, who has just moved from Germany to Austria last year, and his team work on the artificial generation of red blood cells (erythrocytes) from adult, fetal and so-called inducible pluripotent stem cells. This basic-oriented research is of interest not only for a possible "artificial" blood substitute, but also serves for a better understanding of non-malignant diseases of the red blood cells (eg, sickle kinaemia, thalassemia)
Peter Schlenke and his life partner Isabel Dorn, who wants to "get going" in spring 2016 in Graz, are researching the pathophysiological connections between the haemolytic-gland and the human body, together with scientists from the Institute for Hygiene at the University of Münster (Prof. Helge Karch, Prof. Johannes Müthing) Uraemic syndrome, a feared complication of infection with enterohemorrhagic Escherichia coli, the shigatoxin of which may inhibit the formation of red blood cells (erythropoiesis).

http://www.lifescienceaustria.at/stammzellforschung-rote-blutkoerperchen-wachsen-im-labor-klinischer-einsatz-ohne-infektionsrisiko-als-zukunftsvision/

http://www.haematologica.org/content/early/2014/10/14/haematol.2014.108068

https://www.medunigraz.at/neues/detail/news/stammzellforschung-rote-blutkoerperchen-aus-dem-labor/

presstext

https://www.medunigraz.at/fileadmin/medunigraz/oeffentlichkeitsarbeit/presse/2014/presse_info_stammzellen1014_versand.pdf

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Im "Going To Die In Armageddon"

by pale.emperor in

3 missed calls from my jw brother last night.

i didnt answer because he's actively shunning me and when he does ring it always to preach to me about how we're so close to the end and how i should "humble myself before the mighty hand of god" .

he then texts me saying "we need to talk".

TheWonderofYou

FIVE EVENTS TO COME:

Proclamation of “Peace and security!”
Nations attack and destroy “Babylon the Great”
Attack on Jehovah’s people
War of Armageddon
Satan and his demons are abyssed
Should your family not wait for the proclamation of Peace and give you a little time?
Like it was at Jerusalem, first the troups marsh up, draw back and return to destroy. Dont bother, There might be yet a time to flee if Jehovah acts like with Jerusalem.

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Child abuse royal commission: Justice McClellan warns churches to change or risk illegitimacy

by OrphanCrow in

child abuse royal commission: justice mcclellan warns churches to change or risk illegitimacy.

every major australian church has been cautioned to better protect children or risk illegitimacy.in a speech to the national council of churches, the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse chairman justice peter mcclellan urged religious leaders to act on his recommendations.

"what we can be certain of is that any institution which does not acknowledge past wrongs and the need for change will lose the confidence of australians," he said via a recorded video.. read more and watch video of speech (26.02 long) at link:.

TheWonderofYou

OrphanCrow:

Do those who give up their personal power to a god turn around and act out their need for power on those who are the most vulnerable? ...Divine power appears to be a perversion of power.

Certainly a combination of several special conditions in the congregation of JW.

Reminds of the dicussion on this forum lately - in which you gave a good comment too about a perverted POWER and perverted FEAR-atmosphere - started by flipper about "WTS creating atmosphere which spawns child abuse in congregations". Some citations her and much more on this challenging thread:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5450380668305408/wt-society-creates-atmosphere-which-spawns-child-abuse-congregations

flipper: Then it becomes even more dangerous once one of these predators gets appointed to a power position of elder in a congregation as other JW's are even more intimidated by the power this elder wields and possesses. So if anyone comes out with accusations of child abuse towards an elder- the JW's are trained to doubt the validity of the child abuse charges- because THEY are told " Oh no ! Brother so and so is SPIRITUAL - he wouldn't molest children - he's an elder, or a pioneer ! " You see my point. JW's minds are conditioned to trust too much and give most fellow JW's , especially elders and the GB the benefit of any doubt.
simon: Yes, they are guilty not of the abuse (unless they knew about it and covered it up) but because they create the perfect environment for such abuse and know that they do so.
They put protection of their own position and power and growth of the organization ahead of welfare of the children and for that they are guilty.

LongHairgal: The reason for ALL this is because the Witness religion tries to break down personal boundaries and attempts to erode people's natural instinct of self-preservation. This is done gradually.#

flipper: "SIMON- Very true. WT leaders knowingly put children in danger in order to promote position, power, growth of the organization, and financial wealth of the WT organization while throwing children's welfare to the wind. Very sick."
crow:
And then throw in all the sexual restrictions. The WTS is focused on controlling sexual behavior. Children are given inappropriate information about sex. So are adults.
Then there is the issue of power. Power is woven into the WT structure. Power at the top and filtered down, each rung down with less and less power. Until it stops at the man on the bottom. Women and children are below any level of power. The problem is that it is only an illusion of power. Those men who are given their power from above the ladder, know that they don't really have any. They know, deep inside, that the power they have been given is fake. They know they are powerless. That is reinforced every time they open their mail and get yet another BOE letter telling them in detail what to do. That isn't power and they know it.
A person's self empowerment is critical to emotional and psychological health. It is imprinted in our genes. We must have power to survive. A cult member does not have personal power. They only have the power of the cult. They have none of their own. And they are terrified of the One who has the most power of all - Jehovah.
But, a human being's need for power is fundamental to their nature - each and every one of us must have it in order to feel like we will survive. So, all those powerless people inside the WT's made-up religion, have to, and they will, seek power somewhere. And where better to find power than to take it from those who have no way of protecting their own? From the children. The powerless steal the children's power. Because they can. And because they don't know how to be powerful by themselves - their power has been stolen by the WTS. They have given their power to the cult.

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Child abuse royal commission: Justice McClellan warns churches to change or risk illegitimacy

by OrphanCrow in

child abuse royal commission: justice mcclellan warns churches to change or risk illegitimacy.

every major australian church has been cautioned to better protect children or risk illegitimacy.in a speech to the national council of churches, the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse chairman justice peter mcclellan urged religious leaders to act on his recommendations.

"what we can be certain of is that any institution which does not acknowledge past wrongs and the need for change will lose the confidence of australians," he said via a recorded video.. read more and watch video of speech (26.02 long) at link:.

TheWonderofYou

I already thought the storm moves off and calms down. The commisson would shake its head and find other plenty of work to do. I didnt anticipate this appell to yield to reason.

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Best Website in the world - JWORG

by TheWonderofYou in

jw believe that jworg is the best website and most translated in the world.. i heard this today in streetservice.

there was already a thread about this subject.

anybody can link it?.

TheWonderofYou

JW believe that JWORG is the best website and most translated in the world.

I heard this today in streetservice. There was already a thread about this subject. Anybody can link it?

https://www.tomedes.com/translator-hub/most-translated-website.php

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BBC Programme Re. Contaminated Blood - Dub Blinkers

by BluesBrother in

jw
friends

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08qhmhc/panorama-contaminated-blood-the-search-for-the-truth.

an experienced j w of my acquaintance , who had best be nameless, urged me to watch this t v programme because it "proves the society were right all along in warning of the dangers of blood.. well, yes , it does in a way demonstrate that the potential dangers of blood products was not fully recognized.

in particular this is shown in respect of the aids/hiv virus which was a new threat when it occurred.. there were some important points deliberately ignored by my dub associate , though :.

TheWonderofYou

Ruby: i honestly think blood medicine will be replaced by other methods eventually

I found this in a closing statement about PBM by the speakers of the Austrian platform blood, 20.-22th April, 2017

"Aus heutiger Sicht wird die Fremdbluttransfusion noch viele Jahre Standard in unserem medizinischen Leben spielen, da ein der Transfusion gleichwertiger synthetischer Ersatz noch lange nicht erhältlich sein wird."
"From today's point of view, foreign blood transfusion will continue to play a standard role in our medical life for many years as a synthetic substitute that is equivalent to the transfusion will not be available for a long time."
"Vienna blooddays" 2017
http://www.wienerbluttage.at/
(The closing statement is to be find on the bottom of the homepage)

On Saturday 25th Feb. 2017 JW and PBM expert Prof. Dr. Axel Hofmann has lectured about the international experiences on implementation of Patient oriented bloodcare in the practise in one of a series of talks entitled “Etablishing a new golden standard” at a PBM seminary in Austria. Another speaker was his co-author Prof. Spahn from Switzerland, who is also one of the board members of the International Foundation for Patient Blood Management IFPBM.

http://www.anaesthesie.news/2016/12/28/patient-blood-management/