Posts by TheWonderofYou

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Illogical illustration of “the rich man and the poor man Lazarus” (Luke 16:19-31)

by venus in

illustration of the rich man and the poor man lazarus indirectly hints that the materially rich would go to hell and the poor ones to heaven.

if one reads between the lines, one can discern that this illustration is a later adoption intended to exploit the rich using the poor as a means.. i have friends who are extremely rich (net-worth in billions) and also who are materially very poor, and have found both are living in hell because of their attitude.

the excess the rich have prevents them from enjoying it (and even the affluent find a huge gap between income and desires, hence find themselves often in conflict and competition) and whereas the deprived compare themselves with the haves which prevents them also from enjoying their lives.. jesus would not provide an illustration that undermines his own most favored statement: “happy are those poor in spirit because kingdom of heavens belongs to them” (mathew 5:3) and his own explanation that heaven is the condition of one’s heart (luke 17:21) obviously he had in mind those who do not have the baggage of attachment and sense of possession, those few people of simplicity that belong to both the categories—the rich and the poor. simplicity is the ultimate sophistication, a stage where every possession serves a purpose living a life that is deliberate and intentional (not one that someone else has scripted for them) and wanting to feel more complete (not more objects of the world), at ease.

TheWonderofYou

Vanderhoven7: Everyone in Jesus' audience understood

I am wondering - perhaps this has been already mentioned by others - why the writer of Luke when he composed his gospel he comes up with this exemplary story.

I wondering if he used it because of the interesting original setting in a conversation with pharases or because of a more general benefit for Luke's audience who were the educated pagans and the jewish-christians. He who was worked so accurate and made use of confident written sources, why did he insert this examplary story about a rich man in his text?

A pagan audience would not have been aware of inner-jewish terms or interested however in the inner-jewish dispute between pharasees and rabbi Jesus and for it also the satirical value of the story and Jesus rethoric ability to mimik their teachings in the original setting might have been of little value, at least it would have been no easy stuff.

Although all other gospelwirters forgot about this story of the rich man, Luke didnt want to be this little story to be forgotten. He thought it would be interesting for his 2nd generation community and even for non-jewish people.

Now indeed it would be exciting to know what was his idea about this story,

- was he excited of Jesus as satiric and did he want to present Jesus as great rethoric?

- was he only acccurate and didnt want to forget this little story?

- did Luke use the story as exemplary story to show that God doesn like hypocracy?

- was it because Luke generally liked to enjoin one not to forget the poor?

Something in this story must be special that Luke decided to pass it on. Certainly the original setting might be very important to understand, the correct understanding of the terms just as well, but because the scenery is fictionary to which action does the story stimulate us then?

Perhaps Luke had a certain Lazarus in mind when he took up this story in the gospel, as a doctor he was certainly interested in such gruesome treated poor people, treated as unclean and anyway helpless, people who were "refugees" in their own country, whom dogs licked their sores, because they could not move from the place, where they were deposited.

Did Luke leave the story over for us to interprete it?

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Can the GB be directed by Holy Spirit and at the same time be not inspired ?

by Chook in

yes god directs our writings but they're not inspired, so gods directions are staggered and overlapping , so the genuine innocent believing jw has a wonderful life of overlapping bullshit.

so next time you meet a jw priest ask them what is the difference between being directed and inspired, then i promise you will hear first hand an example of overlapping bull..

TheWonderofYou

Brother Jackson e.g. in this scene spoke (not inspired) that simply wanting to remain loyal is not enough, exclusive devotion to Jehovah means not to deviate from his principles! As if there would be no other examples for this he mentioned the situation of a woman suffering poor health. The non-inspiried words he found were:

"Granted ....poor health may cause us great suffering, when experiences such distress we must always remember that violating Jehovah PRINICPLES is N - E -V- E - R a solution, but taking a firm stand on jehovahs side....."

One could assume that he speaks of not resigning from faith in this situation of suffering caused by the long suffering. His (non inspired) words are twisted.

But be careful, he wants to use the woman's poor health for showing that it it not enough to remain in faith, but even to be no-holds-barred prepared to decide against her own life saving therapy.

For Jackson it is not enough not to resign from faith in poor health ,Jackson awaits from that the woman exclusive devotion to Jehovahs PRINCIPLES.

As he is a weasel trained by his law office (not spirit-directed but law office directed) he doesnt speak out such an extrem demand publicly over TV for what he could be held accountable, but better lets the slaving WTS creative department insert a background image as propganda tool which shows how the already poor woman avoids a bloodbag to be connected to her. In this situation she needs to pray not only to remain a believer at all but to resist also the seduction of this uncooperative wordly doctor who insists on that blood bag which could save her life.

So he (not inspired) let us believe that a sick person has to be ready to give up his life and avoid a life-saving therapy, while the WTS- creative department (not spirit-directed) inserts a foto to provoke a certain necessity of obidience, pressure and fear.

Why does he not say it forthright with his mouth that he is not inspired nor directed o say such things in the name of God. Why does he not say that each one should decide free without fear or necessity of obidience.

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Young ones performing for parents on Youtube

by TheWonderofYou in

49900 likes .... nice and she knows the text really "by heart".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an3cacyjkjk.

over 70000 likes ..but here.

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This is not possible - you only thought

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Cart Witnesses Today - I am not impressed

by pale.emperor in

just approached a cart then with two jw girls holding out mags.

they continued chatting to each other about car insurance when i took the watchtower from one of their hands.. ok, so it looks like i'll have to get the ball rolling.

i asked if they were jehovahs witness.

TheWonderofYou

Supermodel Coco Rocha is out on service - are you now impressed? A fake but nice.

Here for Glamour

A practicing Jehovah’s Witness since childhood, she has clauses in her contracts barring nudity and cigarettes, religious icons or war-related and political messages in pictures.
“Early on it was a little more difficult for me to voice my opinion,” says Rocha, who advocates for models’ rights and helped pass a New York State law protecting underage models. “Now it’s common knowledge: [I] will only wear certain things or do certain things.”

http://nypost.com/2014/10/30/model-coco-rocha-on-pregnancy-religion-and-her-signature-style/

'No religious artifacts, no government artifacts. If I’m shooting with a male model, what is he exactly doing with me?
'What is he wearing? If I’m working with other models, what are they wearing? Are they playing something that I don’t want?,' she described.

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Young ones performing for parents on Youtube

by TheWonderofYou in

49900 likes .... nice and she knows the text really "by heart".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an3cacyjkjk.

over 70000 likes ..but here.

TheWonderofYou

Parents exploiting children

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UK Branch Relocation - Before and During Pictures (Chelmsford / Temple Farm)

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

following on from wifibandit's post with the summer 2017 newsletter here:.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5651340170625024/june-29-2017-all-congregations-re-branch-relocation-newsletter-uk.

fwiw here's a before and during view as you fly over the site:.

TheWonderofYou

In the second PHASE might be other residence buildings if the need is yet.

Before, branch site July,2015

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What does it take to qualify for cart/trolley work?

by Londo111 in

if memory serves me, when it was first introduced elders had to fill out a form to grade a jw, and only those who made the grade could do the carts.. i didn’t realize until sir82 said something on another discussion that the process had changed.. what is the process nowadays?

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Will the witnesses quit their loyal walks along the front doors - two in two and equipped with beliefs? Does the church no longer believe in its ancient strategy? Linda Nagel, who has a number of hours at the Jaarbeurs entrance of Utrecht Centraal, has to laugh about it. "We do not really stop there (at the doors), but...
we notice that people are less at home, here (at the station) we reach people who are looking for something themselves."

really less at home?

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UK Branch Relocation - Before and During Pictures (Chelmsford / Temple Farm)

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

following on from wifibandit's post with the summer 2017 newsletter here:.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5651340170625024/june-29-2017-all-congregations-re-branch-relocation-newsletter-uk.

fwiw here's a before and during view as you fly over the site:.

TheWonderofYou

the 5 residence buildings mentioned would then correlate with these 5 houses in the middle section.(?)

http://brebuzz.net/2017/06/19/first-ever-breeam-communities-innovation-credit-is-claimed-by-temple-farm-development/

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5152526483587072/chelmsford-green-lighted?page=development has 5 houses

5 buildings at http://www.templefarmdevelopment.co.uk/

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Aust 2016 Census observations: JW's getting older, more kids leaving, and 30+ group aren't returning

by shepherdless in

1. median age.

experts will tell you that if you want to know if a population is in growth or decline, the best single number to look at is the median age of the population.

i have extracted aust census data and calculated the following approx median ages:.

TheWonderofYou

Good sheperdless analysis.

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Jehovah's Witnesses on BBC World Service radio

by jw news 2017 in

it is supposed to shape every facet of the lives of its 8 million followers around the world.its beliefs set it apart not only from non-believers and other christian faiths.but what has emerged in recent years is an alleged catalogue of sexual abuse that has gone unreported and unpunished due to this adherence to the literal word of god.david cook meets the survivors of years of abuse who say their claims were ignored because of the lack of two witnesses to the crime, a major law of the organisation which it says is enshrined in the bible.jehovah’s witnesses deny they shelter any abusers but he will hear how some alleged abusers were allowed to remain part of the organisation because of the lack of witnesses.he will also investigate how this insular worldwide community is responding to mounting pressure to turn over decades of testimonies which could expose thousands more cases of abuse... "~ quoted text, and video image, from the web page:http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p056p7wgaudio of the programme:'heart and soul ~ witness protection' ~ broadcast on bbc world service at13:32 uk time, on 30th june 2017© copyright bbc world service © copyright bbc heart and soul

TheWonderofYou

I downloaded it.