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Illogical illustration of “the rich man and the poor man Lazarus” (Luke 16:19-31)

by venus in

illustration of the rich man and the poor man lazarus indirectly hints that the materially rich would go to hell and the poor ones to heaven.

if one reads between the lines, one can discern that this illustration is a later adoption intended to exploit the rich using the poor as a means.. i have friends who are extremely rich (net-worth in billions) and also who are materially very poor, and have found both are living in hell because of their attitude.

the excess the rich have prevents them from enjoying it (and even the affluent find a huge gap between income and desires, hence find themselves often in conflict and competition) and whereas the deprived compare themselves with the haves which prevents them also from enjoying their lives.. jesus would not provide an illustration that undermines his own most favored statement: “happy are those poor in spirit because kingdom of heavens belongs to them” (mathew 5:3) and his own explanation that heaven is the condition of one’s heart (luke 17:21) obviously he had in mind those who do not have the baggage of attachment and sense of possession, those few people of simplicity that belong to both the categories—the rich and the poor. simplicity is the ultimate sophistication, a stage where every possession serves a purpose living a life that is deliberate and intentional (not one that someone else has scripted for them) and wanting to feel more complete (not more objects of the world), at ease.

TheWonderofYou

Obviously he had in mind those who do not have the baggage of attachment and sense of possession, those few people of simplicity that belong to both the categories—the rich and the poor.

Cardinal Schönborn, Vienna: "The Gospel of the poor, begging for a gift in the doorstep of the rich, exhorts men to do what is most important in the sight of God. This admonition in the parable of the "rich and poor Lazarus" is not connected with a condemnation of the rich by Jesus, emphasized Cardinal Christoph Schönborn on Saturday evening in Vienna's St. Stephen's Cathedral.
"Jesus himself had rich friends in Bethany," recalled the Cardinal. If, in the parable of the nameless rich man and the poor Lazarus, he made a harsh judgment, it was not because "the rich man is attracted to brandname clothing, but because the rich man does not see the poor before his own door."
The "dramatic" and actually sinful in the lives of most people are not the mistakes, but the omissions, the Viennese archbishop said: "What we miss, what we do not perceive what we overlook." Everyone must ask themselves, "Where is Lazarus in front of my door?"

or how another commentator wrote: "there is no way to god, except with Lazarus".

Another comment by this archbishop to the sunday gospel reading about Lazarus is this "who is your Lazarus"

..."I do not believe that Jesus sees this as something automatic: the poor are good in the poor, the poor are good. His message is rather: It depends on what you do now, how you behave today. There are rich that have a great heart. There are poor that close their hearts. Your eternal lot does not decide. It's in your hands today. Look outside your door! Who is your Lazarus?

https://www.erzdioezese-wien.at/site/glaubenfeiern/christ/bibel/gedankenzumevangelium/article/52361.html

ECONOMIC SITUATION IN ROMAN PALESTINE

Another important factor we should consider is the soical economic background of the story. The jewish society was very solidarian. A poor one had pratically a public right for a support. It was regulated so.It was usual to invite poorer on holidays:

“Go, my son, and find one of our poorer relatives captive here in Nineveh, someone who pays attention to God with all his heart. Bring him here to eat with me. I will wait here, son, until you return.” Tobit 2,2

There was an instituionalised right for social services. Supporting widows and orphans (fatherless boys) got proverbal. Much is about this matter in the literature under the subjects jewish welfare, i stop because i am missing time now, however one important thing: about 90 % of jewish people in roman palestine have been according to a source poor people, they were wageworkers or slaves. Other sources say that it was not so bad.

Therefore such a religious welfare institution was absolutely necessary and seldom one was let completely alone in this community network. About the roman jews was said that jewish children learned from the youth to beg, they were known as beggars in Rome. Besides them there were the cynics, people who decided volunatarily to live poor and to beg.

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Mother let die child

by TheWonderofYou in

emotional scene with children, mother, doctors and priest, .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qdtafrbcm8.

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Sadly I am merely spanish beginner. So it may last longer.

The son denunciates his mother and calls her the killer of his brother.

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Illogical illustration of “the rich man and the poor man Lazarus” (Luke 16:19-31)

by venus in

illustration of the rich man and the poor man lazarus indirectly hints that the materially rich would go to hell and the poor ones to heaven.

if one reads between the lines, one can discern that this illustration is a later adoption intended to exploit the rich using the poor as a means.. i have friends who are extremely rich (net-worth in billions) and also who are materially very poor, and have found both are living in hell because of their attitude.

the excess the rich have prevents them from enjoying it (and even the affluent find a huge gap between income and desires, hence find themselves often in conflict and competition) and whereas the deprived compare themselves with the haves which prevents them also from enjoying their lives.. jesus would not provide an illustration that undermines his own most favored statement: “happy are those poor in spirit because kingdom of heavens belongs to them” (mathew 5:3) and his own explanation that heaven is the condition of one’s heart (luke 17:21) obviously he had in mind those who do not have the baggage of attachment and sense of possession, those few people of simplicity that belong to both the categories—the rich and the poor. simplicity is the ultimate sophistication, a stage where every possession serves a purpose living a life that is deliberate and intentional (not one that someone else has scripted for them) and wanting to feel more complete (not more objects of the world), at ease.

TheWonderofYou

Gorge Storrs influenced Ch. T. Russel.

I found a comment by him about the Lazarus story. He of course supported the doctrine of the "dispensation" and could not resist to adopt it to this story.

while the obstinate unbelieving Jew from the time of Christ, or from the introduction of the Christian dispensation, has been "tormented:" and the "gulf" between the two dispensations is "impassable"-

http://centrowhite.org.br/files/ebooks/apl/all/Storrs/The%20Rich%20Man%20and%20Lazarus.pdf

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similarities of WT and North Koria

by yoko N in

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TheWonderofYou

1. Leader of North Korea is treated like a God, people pray to a statue of him every day. All people have to attend funerals of the leader and have to cry for him under menace of a 6 month labor camp = concentration camp.

If you dont follow the humble and faithful slave you have not place in the congregation and get cut off. Most JW adore the GB. If you dont listen to the GB you get disfellowshipped and 6 month you have lost everything and you live furtheron like in a JW-style "concentration camp", you are separated from your peers.

2. You have to get a conservative hair cut, you have no choice. You have to choose from a government approves selection of 14 haircuts for men, 18 for women.
Surveillance cameras on public place to pull out people who dont have approved haircuts.

An attractive hair cut is important in the JW service as well as clothing, surveillance is organised by critics from the sisters and brothers.

3. Bibles, Torahs, Corans and religious practise are banned.

Non-JW religious literature is banned by JW, magical literature is burned, non-religious is treated as harmful. Higher education is harmful for the devleopment of a modest character.

4. Television. 2 channels available and strictly controlled by the state. Purpose is propaganda like public service talks about haircuts. Inaccurate news. critizizing and lying about US and allies.

TV is used as main propagand-tool in the JW religion, the content is much about "micro-managing" the life of a JW, e.g. how to dress correctly and modestly, how to change character to become a volunteer for the construction work. Printed editions of publciatons are avoided.

5. 1/1000 posess a car.

JW are mostly from the lower class and dont possess much cars either.

6. freetime: no room for that, one works 70 days straight, 6 day work day and forced extra day with volunteer work, people are seen as resources rahter then as people.

JW are overloaded with theocratical duties, there are pioneers who serve 70 h a month and besides that do yet extra volunteer work in building projects.

7. Photography banned.

Interviews with JW representatives are not wished, if it turns about critical question about the organisation. Leaders are ignoring that problems exist or are relevant and do everything to hide the real financial situation and reasons for doctrinal changes.

8. Women soldiers. brainwashing military camp. Learning frases like "We are killing Americans". Used in parades to make the country look good.

As JW -women have nothing to say in the organisation they are used as propaganda tool in street service and building projects. They make the JW-country look good and not surpressive. This JW-style "army" is preaching "god is killing in Armageddon" or turning one into salt columns.

9. Family punishment. The country has a law: "3 generations of punishment". Parents, wife, kids or unborn are punished for ones crimes and come into labor camps.

JW likewise have a form of a family punishment, if one leaves the religion the JW family (grandpa, relatives, kids) and all other people from the peer punishes this person and they wont talk with it nor take up your call.

10. Everybody has to vote. As there is only once Canidate.

JW vote only for the invisible power not for human powers. The human power is exectued by the governing body anyway and one cant vote for it.

11. Sexual abuse is not a serious crime. They dont make a deal out of it.

At JW sexual abuse is treated as a sin but not as a crime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEPfHDNLahk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4qXUDp3FbY

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Quotes: "Since 1914 and 1918 enemies have become more vicious"

by TheWonderofYou in

this is a proof for 1914!.

enemies, .

https://archive.org/stream/enemiesbyjudgerutherford1937/1937-enemies#page/n11/mode/1up.

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This is a proof for 1914!

Enemies,

https://archive.org/stream/EnemiesByJudgeRutherford1937/1937-ENEMIES#page/n11/mode/1up

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Mother let die child

by TheWonderofYou in

emotional scene with children, mother, doctors and priest, .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qdtafrbcm8.

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Emotional scene with children, mother, doctors and priest, ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qDTaFRbCM8

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Childabuse/pedophilia consequences and different treatment

by TheWonderofYou in

research report 2014 - max planck institute of psychiatrychildhood maltreatment leaves long-lasting modifications on geneschildhood maltreatment not only harms mind and body but leaves long-lasting modifications on genes.

patients suffering from posttraumatic stress disorder who have or have not experienced childhood maltreatment, displayed distinct epigenetic profiles in immune cells.

thus identical psychiatric diagnosis can be accompanied by distinct biological signatures and possibly differential response to treatment.

TheWonderofYou

Prof. Dr Klaus Beier from the Berlin Charitè said that about 1 % of men (after the development of the sexual orientation) find children exciting or have pedophile fantasies and 1/3 of these men implement it. From those who feel an inclination, only 1/3 is active in child abuse. The other 2/3 of men are addressed by Prof. Beier to look for help

This would be a prevalence like the morbus parkinson. During the youth this sexual inclination can be changed therapied because after the sexual determination the pedophile inclination cant be changed anymore.

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Childabuse/pedophilia consequences and different treatment

by TheWonderofYou in

research report 2014 - max planck institute of psychiatrychildhood maltreatment leaves long-lasting modifications on geneschildhood maltreatment not only harms mind and body but leaves long-lasting modifications on genes.

patients suffering from posttraumatic stress disorder who have or have not experienced childhood maltreatment, displayed distinct epigenetic profiles in immune cells.

thus identical psychiatric diagnosis can be accompanied by distinct biological signatures and possibly differential response to treatment.

TheWonderofYou

Research report 2014 - Max Planck Institute of Psychiatry
Childhood maltreatment leaves long-lasting modifications on genes
Childhood maltreatment not only harms mind and body but leaves long-lasting modifications on genes. Patients suffering from posttraumatic stress disorder who have or have not experienced childhood maltreatment, displayed distinct epigenetic profiles in immune cells. Thus identical psychiatric diagnosis can be accompanied by distinct biological signatures and possibly differential response to treatment. This highlights the importance of the patient’s individual biography in defining disease subtypes.
https://www.mpg.de/7793371/MPIP_JB_2014

In the face of such studies should be asked how many children of JW are already born with genetic harm and psychiatric problems, because certainly such modifications are given further from one generation to the next.

A german magazin calls it a widespread disease in Germany. https://www.welt.de/gesundheit/psychologie/article152551577/Kindesmissbrauch-weiter-verbreitet-als-angenommen.html

And how in other poorer countries or cultures were it is even tolerated, where childabuse is not reported? In the face of the worldwide childabuse in all countries and all ages, how much genetic harm has been done, and how many psychiatric problem have been caused.

According to Rörig, abuse takes place everywhere: in families, in institutions, in digital media, in refugee shelters or through organized crime. The forms ranged from sexualized language to rapes, even from babies and micro-children.

Pedophilia inclination

Pedophilia inclination can be scanned.

Brothers who spare much time and look much on young sister or are accused of abuse could be sent by the elders to the doctor to get a scan on pedophilia. The GB members should exemplary make this scan.

Much research is been done on how a pedophilia inclination originates and how the brain of pedophiles functions. Is it that pedophilia is only one sexual specificity .

He described the results as a "milestone" in research. They showed that pedophilia can be recognized by brain reactions and is one of the possible manifestations of human sexuality. It would be a disease if people suffered from it or caused other harm. Then one must intervene.
https://www.welt.de/wissenschaft/article141600623/Paedophilie-erkennt-man-an-Reaktion-des-Gehirns.html

Should not then the pedophe men be seen differently if the new research, and what are the consequences for the JW congregations?

Is pedophilia an illness or a sexual specification, a limitatble risk and not at all a crime per se , and only y crime if it is executed with or without violence?

And what about the commandments for the elders in the flock book?

Do JW treat pedophile inclination differently then violent criminale or is both the same sin.

Therapy

Pedophiles, these are not just adult men - even young people can feel sexually attracted to children. For her, there has been a special therapy offer at the Berlin Charité since 2014. The financing of the pilot project is now secured.

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Dutch JW convention hall for sale.

by Anders Andersen in

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as the newly expanded convention hall in swifterbant is now in use, the only other jw convention hall in the netherlands is now for sale.. https://congreshal.nl/english/ (congreshal means convention center).. note the links to the brooklyn and ibsa garage sales at the bottom of the page..

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An analysis about the Watchtowers' business model of exploitation of young people, who quit jobs to become workers in building projects for the organsiation. (automatic subtitles in other languages available)

The old convention hall:

This assembly Hall in Bennekom was bought and dedicated in 1975 and was remodeled during the 90's. In a few years from now it will be sold because at this very moment we are building a new assembly hall (with the capacity of 3200 persons) and additional housing and educational facilities in Swifterbant
Assembly hall Congreshal Kringhal Kringvergadering Circuit Assembly Bennekom The Netherlands Nederland holland Jehovah's Witnesses Jehovah's getuigen Jehova's getuigen Jehovas

the new convention hall was build next to the old and can be used as industrial object according to the architecture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAamNtU0Nww

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9bVVreuw-c

New hall in Swifterband

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQWRfhbBQwY

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

TheWonderofYou

The idea of God having a personal name, is mainly owed to the hebrew cultural surrounding in the phase of development of jewish religion, it was a polytheistic surrounding. A name served back then as a distinction to other gods. The proper name expressed the attributes of this godhead is a second factor, the name YHWY doesnt only make it addressable but garantueed a certain closeness of God to his people. The event of the burning bush with the revelation of the name became the saga, which expresses the thought that God is merciful.

The loss of the original pronunciation is owed to an inner jewish process. Using the proper name today would be the same like celebrating again the polytheism and going back to a time when names distinced gods like in old Israel.The loss of the pronuncation is not due to a loss of attentiveness but a widening of the concept of god to a universal god.

The jewish community has in the course of the time become aware of the fact that there is only one God for all men and therefore supported that the personal name got less important. If this already began happening during the time when Israel was dispersed and in babylonian captivity is possible. When the hebrew scripture were translated into greek in the 2nd century before christ already "Kyrios" had replaced the proper name in the jewish world, also in the Qumran spricpures the personal name was replaced with "El", God.