Posts by TheWonderofYou

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Biotech company Amgen helping JW with Anemia

by TheWonderofYou in

oiwhen a jw is in a life threatening anemia situation or needs a coronary artery bypass in case of dialysis-dependent chronic renal failure there is bloodless solution: .

epo ....this stands for "erythropoietin" also par in "epoetin" "epogen" and replaces the lost blood seemingly.

it counts to the allowed bloodless therapies.. what was jehovahs part in it?

TheWonderofYou

I wouldn't call it "unkowingly" associations, though. Not at all.

Of course my statement was intended ironically. Innovations like that can only happen in good network surroundings. Thank you Crow for your suppementary informations.

An example for a PBM network is the "European Network" that initated the March 2018 symposium in Germany at the Goethe university Frankfurt at which Jehovahs witnesses representatives also are networking in the Biochtech industry. (Flyer below) Under the speakers that spoke last month about the Patient blood management perspectives were famous players like A. Hofmann as well as A. Shander and D. Spahn.

https://www.patientbloodmanagement.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/2018_01_30-Flyer-Global-PBM-Symposium-2018-_ENG_LQ.pdf

Among the Sponsors was the the Hospital Liaison Committe Germany representing presumably the European branch in Selters.

Bronze Sponsors (1,050€)
BBraun Melsungen AG • CODAN pvb Medical GmbH • CSL Behring GmbH • Ferring Arzneimittel GmbH •
KVK Zeugen Jehovas • Radiometer AG •

Under the speakers about the Patient blood management perspectives were famous JW Hofmann as well as A. Shander and D. Spahn, cited in the Awake of 2000.

Moreover I googled and found that in March 2018 a seminary about PBM was held in Austria with guest professor A.Hofmann and other EU key-players in PBM organised by "Workinggroup perioperative coagulation".

https://www.oegari.at/arbeitsgruppen/arge-perioperative-gerinnung

Or course this group of Austrian top emergency doctors have contact in organisation and bringing forward technologies. You can see for yourself how much JW are thematized at such seminars.

Excerpt from programm

https://www.oegari.at/web_files/files_veranstaltungen/programm_pbm2018_1115.pdf

and that Prof. Hofmann (JW) is speaking for himself about the worldwide results in implementation of this school.

So the European networking is on top level this year also thanks to Prof. Hofmann.

But how is this all related to the subject Amgen? Actually here in this specific event Amgen was not directly involved

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Biotech company Amgen helping JW with Anemia

by TheWonderofYou in

oiwhen a jw is in a life threatening anemia situation or needs a coronary artery bypass in case of dialysis-dependent chronic renal failure there is bloodless solution: .

epo ....this stands for "erythropoietin" also par in "epoetin" "epogen" and replaces the lost blood seemingly.

it counts to the allowed bloodless therapies.. what was jehovahs part in it?

TheWonderofYou

OIWhen a JW is in a life threatening anemia situation or needs a coronary artery bypass in case of dialysis-dependent chronic renal failure there is bloodless solution:

EPO ....this stands for "erythropoietin" also par in "epoetin" "epogen" and replaces the lost blood seemingly. It counts to the allowed bloodless therapies.

What was Jehovahs part in it? Did he support development of it somehow e.g. by testing at JW patients?

Do you know who are the woman and men who produce EPO for JW?

EPOGEN® is a medicine that acts like the hormone, erythropoietin. EPOGEN® helps the body create more red blood cells and raises the hemoglobin level in your blood.

Epoetin is manufactured and marketed by Amgenunder the trade name Epogen. Johnson & Johnsonsubsidiary Janssen Biotech (formerly Ortho Biotech Products, LP), sells the same drug under the name Procrit, pursuant to a product license agreemen

Amgen History has its headquarter in Thousand oaks california, Conejo Valley. California and subsidiaries everywhere. 18000 jobs. Its the biggest biotech company and rich. Look at the biotech pioneer history. "Applied Molecular Genetics"

Amgen Inc is an American multinational biopharmaceutical company headquartered in Thousand Oaks, California. Located in the Conejo Valley, Amgen is the world's largest independent biotechnology firm.

Amgen is supporting innovative technique like patient blood management research and information initiatives therefore it sponsors also presumably unknowingly associations that engage sometimes a JW speaker who promotes bloodless medicine.

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Info

www.amgenhistory.com/.../amgen/... pdf

http://www.amgenhistory.com

Stock price history

http://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMGN/prices/amgen-inc-stock-price-history

Erythopoientin for Jehovah's Witnesses

http://163.178.103.176/Tema3C/APortal/CardioCG/FisoCardio00/LaUIII/U3Ob1/ejw.htm

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Hospital refuses surgery on JW patient - Switzerland

by TheWonderofYou in

switzerland - .

jw files a suit because his surgery was refused!

supreme court decides against jw.. in the present case, the dilemma to which the hospital refers is not at all.

TheWonderofYou

Quote SFR

The man wanted to operate in a hospital in Bern because of a gang disc incident. The clinic turned him down because he did not allow him to be treated with blood transfusion if necessary. The person concerned claimed that he felt humiliated and traumatized. He subsequently sued the clinic for discrimination.

The Federal Court has now dismissed the plaintiff. Among other things, the Lausanne judges state in their explanatory statement that a clinic "with good reason" does not want to run the risk of bleeding a patient during the operation. In order to present a clear line and to be able to rule out any appearance of unequal treatment or discrimination, the clinic relies on a generally abstract formulated consent.

So the man has a right to medical treatment and respect for his beliefs. The doctors, however, have a right to rescue their patients in an emergency, according to the Federal Supreme Court. At the same time, the operation of disc herniation was not vital and the man could then be operated on in another clinic. Therefore he was not discriminated.

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Hospital refuses surgery on JW patient - Switzerland

by TheWonderofYou in

switzerland - .

jw files a suit because his surgery was refused!

supreme court decides against jw.. in the present case, the dilemma to which the hospital refers is not at all.

TheWonderofYou

Update : Lausanne federal court decided in March that hospital had good reasons not to risk that JW died. It was no discrimination to shun and avoid treatment of a JW patient who wanted bloodless therapy in a private clinics and suffered herniation. "Flashed off"

https://www.medinside.ch/de/post/zeugen-jehovas-blutransfusion-bundesgericht-bern-haykaz-zoryan

https://m.bernerzeitung.ch/articles/5ab2641fab5c370b09000001

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Apostrophe

by compound complex in

the lyrics to the song, "twinkle, twinkle, little star," are an example of apostrophe (not an apostrophe).

learn something new every day!.

twinkle, twinkle, little star, how i wonder what you are.

TheWonderofYou

Shakespeare's apostrophes

https://literarydevices.net/10-memorable-uses-of-apostrophe-by-shakespeare/

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Pope says "hell does not exist"

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

today the pope said in an interview that hell does not exist.. (we allready knew...).

g..

TheWonderofYou

only recently the Church had abolished the limbo for newborns who were not baptized und for aborted unborn innocent ones as well as for millions unbaptized been born before Christ, now why the hell had to give way just for a best friend of Francis named Scalfari who talks with him, doesnt make notes but later publishes what he memorizes as if he had an ecclesiastical magisterium is a mistery to me.

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Why did the Israelites need a 603,550 man army?

by eyeuse2badub in

jehober told the israelites at zechariah 4:6 .

“this is the word of jehovah to ze·rub′ba·bel: ‘“not by a military force, nor by power, but by my spirit,” says jehovah of armies".

why in the hell did he have them form a 603,550 man army according to numbers 1st chapter vs 46;.

TheWonderofYou

Here information about a more realistic counting or origin of the numbers.

http://thetorah.com/recounting-the-census-a-military-force-of-5500/

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ARC - Final Report - Jehovah's WItnesses

by berrygerry in

https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/religious-institutions.

one of our case studies examined the responses of the jehovah’s witness organisation to allegations of child sexual abuse.

we also held an institutional review hearing to provide an opportunity for the jehovah’s witness organisation to inform us of its current policies and procedures in relation to child protection and child safe standards, including responding to allegations of child sexual abuse.as of 31 may 2017, of the 4,029 survivors who told us during private sessions about child sexual abuse in religious institutions, 70 survivors told us about abuse in the jehovah’s witnesses.

TheWonderofYou

Europe: Now after the final report of the commission has been published, the story of this horrible failure of all religions to report offenders to the authorities has also achieved worldwide attention and Jehovahs witnesses are officially part of this tragedy.

German and Austrian daily papers wrote about the winking at child abuse like Spiegel, Berliner Zeitung or Salzburger Zeitung on 16th December. It is called a "national tragedy" or "horrible failure" of religious organisations.

The Salzburger Nachrichten e.g. gave 5 columns to this matter and headed:

"Covered up, concealed and relocated".

Here Jehovahs witnesses are mentioned immediately after the Catolic Church. Under the subheader Looking away should be punishable in the future" the paper writes: "Thus, the Catholic Church was no exception. Even the "Jehovah's Witnesses" should have tolerated 1,000 alleged perpetrators.". (The author seems to highlight this astonishing news ...even JW who so much condem the catolic church)

Der Spiegel prints also this table with 1,7 % share of JW victims.

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/australien-kommission-zu-kindesmissbrauch-empfiehlt-abschaffung-der-zoelibat-pflicht-a-1183438.html

This is not good news in pre christmas time.

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The Creation of Jesus

by berrygerry in

seeing a trinity thread.. can a jw apologist explain what (not who) is jesus?.

prior to the creation of everything 13.7 billion years ago (draw close book), jehovah created jesus as his firstborn, his only-begotten.. there was nothing else - no stars, no dust, no matter - just jehovah - and then, just jehovah and jesus.

so, what was jesus?.

TheWonderofYou

Jesus was what? A heavenly spirit-creature ( Pr. 8,22, Re 3,14: Jehovah himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the beginning of the creation by God). Jehovah did not use preexistent material.

Jehovah was what? A spirit creature and he doesn not need material energy. He is spirit and uses spirit to create.

This kind of divine spirit, the basis of gods creation, does not need any energy out from material universe to create heavenly persons. It was a creation process simply in "spiritual realm" where Jehovah exists and dwells. This also because it happened before the creation of the material universe.

And as the material universe was created by "active force" , spirit, ru'ach , which was moving over the surface of the waters, Ge,1,2 , this demonstrates how the heavenly spiritual realm and persons were also created by "active force" out of gods mouth.

So Jesus would be a spiritual "WHAT", a heavenly something, but not a material "WHAT". These are two separated spheres in which God is able to create creatures. here and there. When the word once got flesh and God turned Michael into Jesus the spiritual what got material what and this to an extent of 100%. The spiritual what changed to material what and back. A mixture of both is not possible. Either spirit person or man.

This would be my answer if I would be apologist of JW. I hope I didnt misinterpret any JW or intervene into personal agenda. I have no evidence except the watchtowers that taught me to think so.

One could however looking over this credo can also say that the pre-existing Jesus was never a "material" fact, but only a "spiritual" idea. Like a fantasy creature.An idea that evolved because Jesus was seen close to God, that they didnot see and difference any more between the material what and the spiritual what. A spiritual reality that must have existed ever alongside God. Their Jesus got then the middlesman between the spiritual realm and the visible world. The Jesus became Christ.

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Apostasy ~ The film, set in the Jehovah’s Witnesses community

by jw news 2017 in

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/cornerstone-films-worldwide-sales-jehovahs-witness-film-apostasy-1202536715/.

cornerstone films takes worldwide sales on jehovah’s witness film ‘apostasy’.

TheWonderofYou

http://www.tiff.net/tiff/apostasy/

https://twitter.com/danpkoko?lang=de

Family and faith come into conflict for two Jehovah’s Witness sisters in Manchester, when one is condemned for fornication and the other pressured to shun her sibling.