none, weren' they told to make always personal decisions, only being allowed to ask for spiritual assistance. So it would be wise to follow there spiritual assistents without causing public sensation or eclat and shaking off the yoke of responsibiliy
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What is the current policy on blood?
by stillin inhas there been anything recent?
the last i knew, certain fractions were considered a conscience matter.
blood derived vaccinations were cleared, saying that the blood part has been removed.
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Beautiful New "Kingdom Hall"
by Sea Breeze inthese images were posted on one of my fb news feeds.
they are legit.
looks like an upscale commercial bldg.
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TheWonderofYou
Who would ever guess that such halls would be ensnarled in idolatry or worship? Nobody would idolize such a hall. Only see it as commercial building, for commerce seems more anyhow more appropriate for them this is their strenght. They woild never leave out a chance for profit. Therefore simplicity and commercial style is good enough for these snakes. Jw abhore idolization as much as they fear abuse victims. The center of idolization and emotional abuse is however not a building but Jw.org. Dont click it, not get ensnarled!
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Hidden history of the Watchtower religion
by TerryWalstrom inthe deeper you dig--the less impressive jw’s become!___________________you may think you know the men who are vitally important to the birth of the religion--but chances are good you’ve been kept in the dark.. _____________.
did you know?the 1st case heard by the supreme court of the united states concerning the watchtower society involved a director (an officer) of the watchtower, william franklyn hudgings.. a brief description of hudgings and his character.hudgings was an attorney, quack doctor, self-identified ‘scientist’, a pro-zionist, and religious enthusiast who over the years held various director and officer positions in the watchtower society, and the affiliated people's pulpit association and international bible students association.
at the time of this particular case, william hudgings acknowledged being the corporate secretary of the people's pulpit association and acknowledged that his daily duties included the administrative charge of printing of the watchtower magazine, the bible student's monthly, the kingdom news, and other watchtower publications.. (hudgings was also re-elected to the watchtower society board of directors in january 1919.
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Dr. H.A. Ironside, short H.A.I.
Terry wrote: Ever hear of the famous 20th century Evangelist, H. A Ironside?
This preacher had been using a peculiar phrase to identify his followers.
He used the term “Jehovah’s witnesses.”
Ever hear of that phrase as occurring BEFORE 1931?
Judge Rutherford didn't even have sufficient imagination to capitalize the "w" in "witnesses".
No--instead even *borrowing* the use of the lowercase "w" in "witnesses", just as H. A. Ironside had already been using in his multiple Biblical commentaries and published sermons that Ironside had authored at least as early as 1909, and as was the "Jehovah's witnesses" notation in Ironside’s personal Bible next to Isaiah 43:10.
This surely was the whisper of “Jehovah’s witness” in Rutherford’s ear!
H.A.I, who had already used the term "Jehovah's witness" in 1911 for Israel, thus long before the Rutherford in 1931 had the inspiration to call the little flock of IBSA or the slave class also "Jehovah's witness".
Why did he, the genius, come up with that new term “Jehovah’s witness” 20 years before Rutherford?
Did God let fall his work into oblivion because he was overhasty and rushed on ahead Jehovahs chariot? Did Rutherford copy his idea 20 years later after reading his work?
First, there is no doubt that he was an outstanding bible scholar although he had no formal education!
Then, Dr. H.A.I. served in the Salvation Army, the Plymouth Brethren and the Moody memorial church with 7000 sermons and hundreds of books as well as bible commentaries. He promoted dispensionationalism in America.
And further, despite his lack of formal education, his tremendous mental capacity, photographic memory and zeal for his beliefs caused him to be called, "the Archbishop of Fundamentalism”.
So it was his special method in bible reading, his creativity that lead to call Israel Jehovahs witness?
Perhaps. Think only of the fact that besides his devotion and homiletical methods it was kind of marking the bible with sayings, ephitaphs, poems, diagrams, and even chinese characters, which he studied for recreation. So he marked here and there the great themes of the Bible, and so his comments written by him in margins and scattered over 1500 pages are the richest treasure to study.
Here some more of the honours given to him:
"He was probably the most famous exponent of vers-by-vers exposition of our generation. Literally thousands of sheep crowded the great Moody Church week after week for over eighteen years, because better pasture could not be found anywhere else."
This kind of bible study method like the vers-to verse reading seemed to have inspired people like Rutherford.
"H.A.I.'s manner of marking the bible is a fascinating study itself".
"What a giant intellect and spirituality Dr. Ironside was".Another comment reads
"The very dust of whose writings is gold." (In his biographc of the late Dr. H.A. Ironside, Dr. e. Schuyler English mentions that Richards Bentley's the above description of Bishop Pearson can well be applied to Dr. Ironside)
A.I's commentaries on the Bible - 32 volumes
Russel another genius did not come up with the name JW in 1911 but it was Dr. Irsonside
And again 20 years another genius – Rutherford- he called JW a new people.
“Author Chandler W. Sterling refers to this as “the greatest stroke of genius” on the part of J. F. Rutherford, then president of the Watch Tower Society. As that writer viewed the matter, this was a clever move that not only provided an official name for the group but also made it easy for them to interpret all the Biblical references to “witness” and “witnessing” as applying specifically to Jehovah’s Witnesses. In contrast, A. H. Macmillan, an administrative associate of three presidents of the Watch Tower Society, said concerning that announcement by Brother Rutherford: “There is no doubt in my mind—not then nor now—that the Lord guided him in that, and that is the name Jehovah wants us to bear, and we’re very happy and very glad to have it.” Which viewpoint do the facts support? Was the name ‘a stroke of genius’ on the part of Brother Rutherford, or was it the result of divine providence?” (1931)
1911: Ironside: In his "Lectures on Daniel the Prophet" he referred to the Jews to whom the promises of Isa.43 would be fulfilled as “Jehovah’s witnesses”. Quote
"These shall be Jehovah’s witnesses, testifying to the power and glory of the one true God, when apostate Christendom shall have been given up to the strong delusion to believe the lie of the Antichrist.” Page 152http://jwawake.com/tag/rutherford/
How many of those GENII Jehovah uses and was not Russel a genius too, why did he not use Charles Taze Russel the genius to call his people JW but Irsonside when they lived anyway in the same time period? Why did Jehovah allow people to go to Irsonside and that "better pasture could not be found anywhere else" including the first usage ot the term JW although Russel had also written much creative stuff?
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How to peddle Doomsday for Fun and Profit
by TerryWalstrom injames ussher (1581-1656).
your name is ussher – james ussher – and you are the archbishop of all of ireland.. you are living in the 1600s and are obsessive-compulsive when it comes to speculative ideas.
you are convinced that you alone have the intellect to figure exact dates of all the major events in the bible actually.
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TheWonderofYou
THIS is insight, lambs don't know of.
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The case of Jamal Khashoggi
by LoveUniHateExams injust been catching up on the case of jamal khashoggi.. khashoggi was a saudi journalist who 'went missing' on 2 october after visiting the saudi consulate in istanbul.. he visited the consulate in order to get paperwork that confirmed he was divorced from his ex-wife and free to marry his turkish fiancée.. the details that are emerging are harrowing and show just how barbaric the saudi regime is.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6288131/jamal-khashoggis-apparent-murder-follows-disappearance-three-exiled-royal-princes.html.
these assassins are the kinda people my government (uk) and other western governments are doing business with, propping up, and acting all smiley with in front of the cameras.. i suddenly feel the need to take a shower ....
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The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia ratified the International Convention against Torture in October 1997 according to the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights.
Wikipedia
State is breaking international law
The Saudi Arabian delegation's abstention of ratifucation of human rights andwas prompted primarily by two of the Declaration's articles: Article 18, which states that everyone has the right "to change his religion or belief"; and Article 16, on equal marriage rights.[21
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The Murderous Rule of the Hasmonean King (and High Priest) Alexander Jannaeus
by fulltimestudent inalexander janneaus ruled (and also served as high priest) in jerusalem between 103 and 76 bce.
the books of maccabees provide information for the start of this historical period, brought to an end by herod the great now archaeological evidence has emerged in jerusalem of his murderous reign.
this times of israel article diuscusses the evidence and how the story was put together.
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As the time between 537 BCE (God's people returns from captivity) to 14 .CÈ Tiberius becomes ceasar)is not part of our bible, what happened in this time - whether cruel or not - is not important. It lays in the dark for bible readers. The only thing relevant was that the temple was rebuilt and so we know that the jehoba again blessed the people whom he allowed to be scattered before and gave inn the hand of their enemies Such of a story I would have to believe if the written is all
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Annual meeting topic
by asp59 inhow many think they will announce in the annual meeting they just gonna have one meeting a week?
if they dont it will be astonishing, amazing and other things..
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TheWonderofYou
Shouldn't it start only after sunset in Pennslvenia, BY and Warwick ?
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Study Watchtower confirms shunning spiritually weak. How nice!
by Isambard Crater init really hurt to hear brothers and sisters commenting about this at the meeting yesterday.. "as in solomon’s case, one of the greatest threats to spirituality is friendship with those who do not understand or respect jehovah’s standards.
some may be associated with the congregation but may be spiritually weak.
others could be relatives, neighbors, coworkers, or schoolmates who are not worshippers of jehovah.
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A spiritually weak person = looser in the game: one who thinks yet for himself and doesn't everything what Mr Madwick desires. One who needs to feel shame for not being strong and not being a line. One who needs to be exposed publicly in the publication and through rebuke by exposers who only work with him for the purpose to change him, so that he is not a danger for the strong, to whom he is a permanent harm.and warning: never let me be like her/him
A strong minded : one who gave up own goals and totally agrees, who doesn't allow own goals to mix up with Mr Madwicks goals, nor does she/he allow herself to doubt anymore, nor does she he tolerate weak ones any more,cause being strong is cooler. Always on the platform, pulling, pushing, bullying. The player, the masked one with cynical insight, the Aaarrgghh guy., the awkward one who goes so far and exposes the weak one, proofes the weak one's testimoniaks and judges about her goals, because he has the might. (Org guy)
Strength is then positive, if it is true strength, true greatness, genuine love.
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The "Faithful And Discreet Slave Class" is it still a Doctrine / Belief ? of Jehovah`s Witnesses today ? 2018 ? or is it old light.
by smiddy3 ini have listened to steven unthank`s podcast and found it very informative and interesting and thought i would ask this question for anyone who is still a practicing member either a pimo or a pomo who only goes along for a family member ,whether this doctrine is still a part of the religions teachings ,or whether it has been dropped altogether .. your replies are much appreciated ..
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Funny quotes from the Sixties
" awake world-watchman, the “slave” class" haha.
"The facts show that during this time and up to the present hour the “slave” class has served as God’s sole collective channel for the flow of Biblical truth to men on earth" .channel for the flow....channel for the flow. ...haha
"through this unique channel actually as a miraculous evidence of the operation of holy spirit". Haha.
So, aside from the awake remnant of the “slave” class, all others of mankind were found to be spiritually asleep up to 1931. They were all fatally heading for Armageddon’s destruction. By 1931 the Catholic, Protestant and Jewish clergy were snoring in even deeper spiritual slumber than prior to 1914. Not an awake watchman among them.
in 1918, the remnant of the slave class was cleansed from worldly and religious defilement.
hahahaha.
follow the awake “faithful and discreet slave” class Your happiness now and in the future new world depend upon your working with the remnant
However identufication of collective FDS as remnant class has disappeared.
Now it's only a composite slave. But not any longer "class.
What anyhow remains is the
"bride class, lazarus class, anointed class, rich man-class, the goat class, sheep class, kings daughter class Jeremiah class phhhhhh
Short the class is the whole, the slave is the spiritual leader feeding... a kind of "upper class" not to mix up with gilead class.
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The "Faithful And Discreet Slave Class" is it still a Doctrine / Belief ? of Jehovah`s Witnesses today ? 2018 ? or is it old light.
by smiddy3 ini have listened to steven unthank`s podcast and found it very informative and interesting and thought i would ask this question for anyone who is still a practicing member either a pimo or a pomo who only goes along for a family member ,whether this doctrine is still a part of the religions teachings ,or whether it has been dropped altogether .. your replies are much appreciated ..
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In the late 18th century, the term "class" began to replace classifications such as estates, rank and orders as the primary means of organizing society into hierarchical divisions. This corresponded to a general decrease in significance ascribed to hereditary characteristics and increase in the significance of wealth and income as indicators of position in the social hierarchy.
Class is not a biblical term. So it had to cease after It got outdated. It was useful in its time to mobilise the rank and file and call it great crowd Class followers of the remnant or bride class.