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  From the Spirit Realm: Weird Interview: Russell and Rutherford

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  russell: oh my yes!

  russell: oh my no!.

  russell: certainly.

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  Archangel Gabriel asks Rutherford who is standing in front of a gate with the inscription ""The little flock", guarding the entering of the newcomers.

  "How many will come yet with heavenly call?"

  Rutherford counting: " 144.003, 144.004, 144.005, 145.000, 148.000 ...OHH, Christ Jesus, my christ Jesus, I should have completed the calling already 1975 or 1940 with my death. Now already everybody wants to achieve the heavenily reward. I made an ass of myself. They dont like the paradise earth.

  Gabriel: "JUDGE!?".

  Rutherford: "Some have to be replaced. Lets sum up the pros and cons. Gabriel, forward the scrolls."

  Russel unamused: "Judge, you will not replace me, you dare ha ha?
  Will you send me back to earth paradise like you did with Bro. Franz? Its really damnable what you are doing as guardian of your "little flock" GATE. Why are you counting at all?"

  Rutherford: "Shut up bro. Its not up to you to speculate whom I will send back to earthly paradise and who remains in heaven. I am prince."

  Voices of a crowd of little sheep in the little flock "We want to remain in heaven, pleeeeaaaase, we liked the rapture, Im sheep 133.333, i like my number" and "we wont go back and there is no paradise yet on earth, its a lie, the world is really so evil at the moment. Your promise of paradise did not come true Judge, Theres no place for us on earth, Shall we go back to our graves?"

  Other newbies who thought they had heavenly hope already achieved in front of the gaite waiting to get entry.
  Gabriel "Hey Prince Rutherford, dont let em wait! Are you completed?"

  Heavenly called ones: "It would have been better to remain in our graves than to wait here in this intermedium state".

  Rutherford: "Wait, there are coming new ones from a new generation, let us wait only a little bit of time yet. Let me write a petition to the Almighty, my doctrin shall not be changed, let us only shift the generation that will be blessed by him."
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  From the Spirit Realm: Weird Interview: Russell and Rutherford

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  russell: oh my yes!

  russell: oh my no!.

  russell: certainly.

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  So we see how impressivly direct your channel from STAR*BUCKS up to our stars (Russel, Rutherford, Franz) in heavenly Jerusalem must be. I should visit a Starbucks too.
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  Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents

  by Simon in

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  2. scandals

  judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.

  imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.

  by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.

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  They still think that in this - unwillingness to follow court orders - they are obeying God more than men.
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  100-million man hours

  by Coded Logic in

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  the james webb telescope is set to launch in october of 2018 and will allow us to study the formation of first generation stars, the molecular clouds that became the first galaxies, and directly image exoplanets.

  roughly one hundred times more powerful than the hubble space telescope the jwst is going to push back the current boundaries of science.. this is what 100-million man hours can accomplish.. .

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8p0samsz7m.

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  Faszinating at 21:00: the installation of 18 mirrors, surfaces are polished to a spec of better than 20 nanometers surface figure area, near atomic level! Wow.
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  More misleading content on JW.org

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is “the end of the world”?the phrase “the end of the world,” which appears in many bible translations, can also be rendered as “the conclusion of the system of things,” or “the close of the age.” (matthew 24:3;english standard version) it refers, not to the destruction of the earth or of all humanity, but to the end of the framework of human society.—1 john 2:17.. conveniently leaving out that according to current numbers and doctrine, 8.000.000 people will survive at max.. technically is not a destruction of all humanity....but it comes so close it deserves to be mentioned.. of course it isn't mentioned, because that would sound so extreme, cultish and unkind.

  we wouldn't want people to get the right ideas about jw.organization now, would we?.

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  The problem:

  Does the idea of "End of the world" contradict "Armageddon"?

  EoW means thus: framework of society ends [no punishment, no destruction necessary, peaceful transition into new world possible]

  Armageddon means: INTERVENTION for gods people (but only if necessary) This does not mean coercively innihilation and certainly not revenge

  Then why someone is afraid of Armaggedon? Only because it is called a "war"? Lately Armageddon is nothing more than figurative speeking about how horrible could be the ultimative consequences of a world without a sense of duty, love and respect. Sometimes I think that we have already today a little figurative Armageddon.
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  Interesting Bit of History

  by Old Goat in

  1. watchtower
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  some of you have read schulz and de vienne's separate identity, vol 1. a rough draft of a chapter meant for vol 2 is on their blog http://truthhistory.blogspot.com/ .

  some don't like history at this depth, but i do.

  give it a look.

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  They awaited backthen the "glorification" of the "church". They thought only this little group was the church and true bride. Until nothing happened of that kind in 1914, all of them overlived 1914, and nobody got raptured. Because Jehovah had not manifested himself as they thought.

  Song 4 of the this first biblestudents songbook "Song No. 4 A little flock" = Russel and followers = church...

  Note: The "J W"-"theocratic organisation" did not exist before Rutherford invented it, but the name "J W" he learned from the Pentecostal Preacher Joshua Sykes who influenced the Watchtower teachings according to TerryWalstroms thread Two men who changed Watchtower history.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65oUWOG-E54
  
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  Background and History of Hayden Cooper Covington and the Watchtower

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  2. beliefs

  background and history of hayden cooper covington and the watchtowerthis link will open as a document:.

  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hloyotabej4kx4bs6izvglvpmt4xymuxfgo7h-vtbhm/edit?usp=sharing.

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  I never heard of that man before. Thanks. What a cup of narcissistic men that founded the J W org or built the basis for its legal victories!

  And how evil those strategicians when they used their members as sacrifice animals and planned attacks on them!

  The selfappointment story of Rutherford with the the end of the angels ruling over the org and now Rutherford ruling was interesting, although I I have already forgotten the dates and details, what I will look up later a second time to remember it better.
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  Printing presses, bye... bye...

  by sp74bb in

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  2. friends

  bye... bye.... no more new printing presses for jw.org... the growth is so tremendous (irony...).. all printing work in europe will be arrange in the next month only in selters (germany), but no renovation or upgrading in printing presses is expected... it will be a full outsourcing :).

  a worldly company axel s******* will be used.

  this company is known to be printing bild newspaper... the interesting part of it is the logistics will be as well outsourced.

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  This rumour can'b be true, what would happen with the grey bibles? The NWT was always printed on own MAN! Hey that cant be true

  Who would produce the advanced grey covers of the new-world-translation that are really made "sister-ready". Arent only "J-W" tm having such an insight in that production?
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  Start A Butterfly Garden!

  by Bonsai in

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  2. friends

  time to take a break from debating religion.

  take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?

  how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?

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  Does this flower have a butterfly a friend?
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  Tried One Last Time In The Kingdom Hall...

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so last thursday was meeting day.

  my wife knows my thoughts on this religion and respects my fade and is completely ok with it (which surprised me, and also made me love her even more).

  i think she must know it's all crack-pot stuff but seeing as her whole family are all in and about 98% of them cant even explain their beleifs without a watchtower on hand i think she's just going along for the friends/family/social side of it.

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  TheWonderofYou

  You delivered insight in todays pharasean selfrightious behaviour in the congregation.

  I remember a similar incidence: once upon a time after I had received a public reproof and had lost all my important offices in the congregation, it was that I tried to attend the assembly happily thinking about my lost appointments and the value of this reproof, then happened a strange thing. I must have been looking depressed and shattered while I held yet the mic for some imporant answers of loving brothers, the mic-slave service I had done over the last 10 years was the only remaining job for me.

  Than one of those anointed remnant members sat in a row and could not hold back commenting about me. While i passed him, he spoke silently but obviously attention-grabbing to his wife: "He will leave us, he is not one of us". He didnot know me privately at all and we had never been in service out over all the time but judgment over me was easy.
  That was really upbuilding.