Posts by TheWonderofYou

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If Watchtower can use a non-sequitur to say that Jesus now knows the day and the hour, despite Matthew 24:36 ....

by Island Man in

... where's the good sense preventing them from again making a date prediction for the end and using a non-sequitur to justify their claim in the face of matthew 24:36?

"... but christ has been empowered in heaven to wage war against satan's world.

(rev 19:11-16) thus, it is reasonable to conclude that jesus now knows when armageddon will occur...." - watchtower july 2016, page 14, par.

TheWonderofYou

In heaven there are not guns, knives, bombs and samurai swords to execute any judgment. These belong to the physical realm. The waepons with which Jesus fights are not of the world! On the contrary they have divine power to demolish strongholds.(2. Cor. 10:3-5).

Note that not alone Christ is fighting against the demons but we men on earth according to Ephesians 6:12, we are putting on the armor and fight! "For our [daily] struggle is not with flesh and blood but with the principalities, with the powers, with the world rulers of this present darkness, with the evil spirits in the heavens"

Already since Paul wrote Ephesian 6:12 about the armor of God Christians have learned to fight and are leading this spiritual battle, Christ fighting in the battle in the first line.

Jesus' weapons in the spiritual warfire against the demons therefore are since 2000 years:

Fighting with TRUTH,

RIGHTOUSNESS;

GOSPEL OF PEACE (not Armageddon)

Word of God,

Prayer.

Therefore, put on the armor of God, that you may be able to resist on the evil day [everyday that passed over the last 2000 years!] and, having done everything, to hold your ground. 14 So stand fast with your loins girded in truth, clothed with righteousness as a breastplate, 15 and your feet shod in readiness for the gospel of peace.16 In all circumstances, hold faith as a shield, to quench all [the] flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. (NABRE)

So tell me anybody, where the hell Jesus is fighting here. We alone have to armor us and to fight, Christ help us though. Let me smith my Smurai Sword for any case.

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Stuck

by Cindy in

i feel so stuck.

i am married to a wonderful man.

i have been married for almost a decade and adore my husband.

TheWonderofYou

I have read your words as well. Gratulations for the love between you and your husband, I have never had "spiritual" bonds, praying together and this stuff. I think the love is a gem that is worth to condone some other bad circumstances in the religion. You are already doing what is good for you, never accept activities that are boring or make unhappy. Variety in activies and vacations with husband would be for me on 1st place to get over actual situation. I was depressed and bought St. Johns wort herbs and took them in the winter months to care for health.

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The shunning has started and... I like it!

by oppostate in

so not having turned in a time-slip in a loooooooong time and making fewer and fewer meetings, and from time to time attending a local church service... the majority of local dubs are overtly shunning me.

there are those who i talk to and who visit our home from time to time, but this last meeting i went to hardly anyone made eye contact, when i greeted folks passing by me, they ignored me.

it actually felt good.. i was surprised at my reaction.

TheWonderofYou

in a nutshell.... ya finally.

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... The Teacher Appears

by TerryWalstrom in

text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s2nu2bw_em6i9kp7wugj4yjqmhps2yio-ytehl4jbmy/edit?usp=sharingthe teacher appears.

he was paul miyoshi.. i passed by him; he raised his head with flashing white hair and set his gaze serenely upon me that first time.

the pupils of his eyes were black, mysterious, as from another world.“konichiwa” he spoke with a smile wrapped in mischief.. there had been a slight bow which triggered a mirrored response.. over the next year and a half, i’d get to know this man much in the way a box within a box reveals more boxes.

TheWonderofYou

Perhaps it is not the art or my creative talent nor my wisdom but my ignorancy that will help my to survive anything. I already survived an accident with an ambulance car and the regime of watchtowerslaves.

I was ambulance man and made my alternative service.

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Who writes Awake! ?

by Drwho in

just a quick question.

who actually writes the awake!

and the watchtower publications ?

TheWonderofYou

In the latest Sept 2016-JW-broadcasting edition starting at 28:00 reports about the former and todays work at the Art Department that is under direction of the Writing Committee.

There are many informations about how the work is organised and illustrations and texts are discussed before print. You even see the sisters and brothers working there now in the Departments.

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... The Teacher Appears

by TerryWalstrom in

text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s2nu2bw_em6i9kp7wugj4yjqmhps2yio-ytehl4jbmy/edit?usp=sharingthe teacher appears.

he was paul miyoshi.. i passed by him; he raised his head with flashing white hair and set his gaze serenely upon me that first time.

the pupils of his eyes were black, mysterious, as from another world.“konichiwa” he spoke with a smile wrapped in mischief.. there had been a slight bow which triggered a mirrored response.. over the next year and a half, i’d get to know this man much in the way a box within a box reveals more boxes.

TheWonderofYou

Hi I began to read at the end and the finger on the water caught me.

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Undeserved kindness

by life is to short in

just a side note that i found interesting and sort of upsetting, the wt that the jw's will study on sunday the 18th of september has the words undeserved kindness mentioned 50 in just 19 paragraphs.

really they need to beat it into their people that they are very worthless and do no deserve anything from god?

so much so that they use the words over and over, don't they.. lits .

TheWonderofYou

My assumption is that the usage of "undeserved kindness" got popular to in the associaciation to the theology of salvation by grace. The salvation by undeserved kindness would be the opposite to the salvation by deeds.

If these connections exist, then the expression "undeserved kindness" might be part of so called "false doctrine of christianity" that should be avoided.

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Looking For WTS Quotes

by Vanderhoven7 in

for practical reasons (a study next week).

i'm looking for wts quotes that claim.

the religion of jehovah's witnesses is the only true religion.

TheWonderofYou

The religion of Jehovah's Witnesses is the only true religion

Awake 2008

Chapter: Who Should Determine True Religion? ... http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102008082#h=14

Today the idea that God deals with mankind through only one religion may seem extreme and unpalatable to some. Yet, it is the conclusion to which the Bible points. In the past, many individuals who had worshipped in their own way came to grips with this fact. They joined themselves to the true worshippers of Jehovah, and any initial misgivings gave way to great blessings and joy. For example, the Bible says that after one Ethiopian man accepted Christianity and was baptized, “he kept going on his way rejoicing.”—Acts 8:39.

Chapter: The religion of Jehovah's Witnesses is the only true religion

Jehovah’s Witnesses have made such an examination. That is why they believe that they have found the true religion. And they invite you to make a search of the Scriptures so as to identify who is practicing true religion today.

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Is changing the "truth" / presenting "new light" really so bad?

by Zana in

jw
friends

playing devil's advocate here.... what's the difference between the gb changing bible interpretations compared to parliaments all over the world changing laws?

although the us constitution (=bible) remains untouched, congress passes i don't know how many new laws every year.

and of course people are expected to follow them.

TheWonderofYou

For a witness of jehovah it is important to ask what means "BEING IN THE TRUTH" actually.

when jesus asked "what is truth" this could be understood as hint that human awarness is limited. Human awareness of truth....the new testament teaches that faith and revelation of god himself overcome the limitation and that the way to this truth is a way of relationship between man and god.

Nobody disposes of this truth absolutely, it can be made accessible time and again anew along a way, as pope Francis wrote in La Republicca, 9/12/13

„You ask me further if it is an error or or a sin to believe that an absolut truth does not exist. First I would say that also for a beliefer we would not speak of an "absolut" truth - for a christian the truth is the Love of God to us in Jesus Christ, thus a relationship! and each of us goes from own impulse when he adopts the truth and expresses is: dependent from his culture, history and situation ..... This does not mean that truth is subjective or changeable in contrary. But it offers itself to us as a way and as life. Did not jesus himself say: I am the way, the truth and the life? (translation mine)

Being in the truth - What do JW understand ?

a) being in the state of having all correct understandings of any doctrinal matter ..... certainly not

b) always telling the truth except in cases where Jehovahs name is in danger ... certainly not

c) living in harmony with JehovaH and his organisation, being in the way in the protected group .... more probably

d) accepting the gospel as "truth" ...less? probably

e) jesus is the truth and all words that he said? probably

...

in hebrew bile the word "truth" means something like "Amen"..... reliabilty ~ loyality and the gamut of reality

http://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-meaning-of/hebrew-word-29e078e450ad7b4ef8d3a9ea7f6ef7d3951dd9c0.html

If this was seen as the key christian teaching than authority of the GB would not be so important but the relationsship with god.

Summary:

The christian "truth" is not

a speculation about philosophical absolut truth
nor an organisational value systems/ legal system/doctrine
nor everlasting new flashes of light or explanations/prophesies from a channel

but simply the relationship of love between God and men in Jesus.

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Is changing the "truth" / presenting "new light" really so bad?

by Zana in

jw
friends

playing devil's advocate here.... what's the difference between the gb changing bible interpretations compared to parliaments all over the world changing laws?

although the us constitution (=bible) remains untouched, congress passes i don't know how many new laws every year.

and of course people are expected to follow them.

TheWonderofYou

Changing the truth ? If you speak a true statement than thats truth, If you speak a false statement than its not truth, but an error, a lie or a mistake. You can change a mistake, correct the mistake to speak then the truth, but you are not changing the truth but changing the mistake, you are making conformity between the reality and your former false statement.

It turns around conformity to reality, facts and circumstance, purpose, sense as well as to conformity to own awareness experience and conviction = truthfulness.

But there are other meanings of truth in a certain , the conformity towards a matter, a person or a term.

Whether someting is true depends of the value system that is used like in formal semantics, maths...