Referring to Moscow, the "house of culture" appears here as the "Freedom hall".
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-jehovah-s-witness-ban-upheld/28621481.html
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Russia - Who Will Get the Property of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by OrphanCrow inhttp://www.interessant.ru/politics/komu-dostanietsia-imushchie.
who will get the property of jehovah's witnesses?.
the sect "jehovah's witnesses", recognized as an extremist organization and banned in russia, owned real estate worth 4 billion rubles.
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Family of Jehovah's Witness who died after refusing blood transfusion can't keep suing doctors
by pale.emperor inhttp://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/07/court_nixes_lawsuit_by_family.html.
the family of a jehovah's witness who died after repeatedly refusing blood transfusions can't sue the hospital where doctors begged for a chance to save her life, a state appeals court ruled.. the case, outlined in an opinion by superior court judge jacqueline o. shogan, involves a convergence of religion, medicine and the law.. its focus is on what happened before terri seels-davila, a jehovah's witness missionary, died after giving birth at hahnemann university hospital in philadelphia in november 2010.. seels-davila, who had been serving on mission with her husband in nicaragua, chose hahnemann because of its "bloodless medicine" program for patients who won't agree to having blood transfusions, including jehovah's witnesses, shogan noted.
the treatment plan for seels-davila called for recycling her own blood back into her system.. yet that proved to be inadequate when complications of her delivery required seels-davila to deliver by cesarean section.
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This is the decision of the Superior Court of Pennsylvania
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/pa-superior-court/1868129.html
On November 19, 2010, Seels-Davila and her father met with Iris Jiminez, one of the clerks at Hahnemann's Center for Bloodless Medicine. N.T. 4/24/15 at 12-13, 41. After talking with Ms. Jiminez, Seels-Davila signed a form entitled “Hahnemann University Hospital Center for Bloodless Medicine and Surgery Medical Directive/Release” where she indicated the following:
I, Terri Elaine Seels-Davila ․ request that no blood (whole blood, red cells, white cells, platelets and plasma) be administered to me during this hospitalization. I will accept the use of nonblood [sic] volume expanders (such as dextran, saline, or Ringer's solution or hetastarch) and other nonblood management.Seels-Davila also indicated on this form that she consented to the use of a cell saver machine, if necessary, for intra-operative blood salvage and, below the signature line, handwrote “I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses. No blood.”
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Family of Jehovah's Witness who died after refusing blood transfusion can't keep suing doctors
by pale.emperor inhttp://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/07/court_nixes_lawsuit_by_family.html.
the family of a jehovah's witness who died after repeatedly refusing blood transfusions can't sue the hospital where doctors begged for a chance to save her life, a state appeals court ruled.. the case, outlined in an opinion by superior court judge jacqueline o. shogan, involves a convergence of religion, medicine and the law.. its focus is on what happened before terri seels-davila, a jehovah's witness missionary, died after giving birth at hahnemann university hospital in philadelphia in november 2010.. seels-davila, who had been serving on mission with her husband in nicaragua, chose hahnemann because of its "bloodless medicine" program for patients who won't agree to having blood transfusions, including jehovah's witnesses, shogan noted.
the treatment plan for seels-davila called for recycling her own blood back into her system.. yet that proved to be inadequate when complications of her delivery required seels-davila to deliver by cesarean section.
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It appears as though the (paid) JW staff of the bloodless center replace the HLC duties for the hospital. Note that the HLC were never mentioned in the court document.
What sounds practical and patient-oriented! Why should a suffering patient have besides the clerks so much persons of the HLC to talk with or to argument with. Why would one who is already standfast need to talk so much with HLC guys at all?
Would it not be the best patient oriented way to minimize contact of HLC and let this job do a little circle of clerks who does the daily nursing job, with whom one likes to talk, is already familiar a JW staff that does also the daily routine work at your body, the JW clerks who do their job and will it do bloodless and patient orientated-
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Family of Jehovah's Witness who died after refusing blood transfusion can't keep suing doctors
by pale.emperor inhttp://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/07/court_nixes_lawsuit_by_family.html.
the family of a jehovah's witness who died after repeatedly refusing blood transfusions can't sue the hospital where doctors begged for a chance to save her life, a state appeals court ruled.. the case, outlined in an opinion by superior court judge jacqueline o. shogan, involves a convergence of religion, medicine and the law.. its focus is on what happened before terri seels-davila, a jehovah's witness missionary, died after giving birth at hahnemann university hospital in philadelphia in november 2010.. seels-davila, who had been serving on mission with her husband in nicaragua, chose hahnemann because of its "bloodless medicine" program for patients who won't agree to having blood transfusions, including jehovah's witnesses, shogan noted.
the treatment plan for seels-davila called for recycling her own blood back into her system.. yet that proved to be inadequate when complications of her delivery required seels-davila to deliver by cesarean section.
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The following information would bring us to the sad number of 208 maternal deaths for 14880 births in the US. alone.
At least this would be 208 - 431 women who are in big danger and high risk patients and are treated with the care of the HLC in special clinics.
Linke to page 507
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Family of Jehovah's Witness who died after refusing blood transfusion can't keep suing doctors
by pale.emperor inhttp://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/07/court_nixes_lawsuit_by_family.html.
the family of a jehovah's witness who died after repeatedly refusing blood transfusions can't sue the hospital where doctors begged for a chance to save her life, a state appeals court ruled.. the case, outlined in an opinion by superior court judge jacqueline o. shogan, involves a convergence of religion, medicine and the law.. its focus is on what happened before terri seels-davila, a jehovah's witness missionary, died after giving birth at hahnemann university hospital in philadelphia in november 2010.. seels-davila, who had been serving on mission with her husband in nicaragua, chose hahnemann because of its "bloodless medicine" program for patients who won't agree to having blood transfusions, including jehovah's witnesses, shogan noted.
the treatment plan for seels-davila called for recycling her own blood back into her system.. yet that proved to be inadequate when complications of her delivery required seels-davila to deliver by cesarean section.
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Are JW women aware at all about their high risk? Does anyone ever talk with pregnant? or does it happen only in case of ....when it is too late.
https://www.glowm.com/pdf/PPH_2nd_edn_Chap-72.pdf
A 2001 study by Singla et al. 14 concluded that ‘Women who are Jehovah’s Witnesses are at a 44-fold increased risk of maternal death, which is due to obstetric hemorrhage.’ Massiah et al. 15 in 2007 published a study of 116 deliveries over a period of 14 years amongst Jehovah’s Witnesses and reported one maternal death due to PPH, leading them to conclude that there was a 65-fold increase of maternal death amongst this cohort of patients. A more recent (2009) study from The Netherlands16 concluded that: ‘Women who are Jehovah’s Witnesses are at a six times increased risk for maternal death, at a 130 times increased risk for maternal death because of major obstetric hemorrhage and at a 3.1 times increased risk for serious maternal morbidity because of obstetric hemorrhage, compared to the general Dutch population.’ A comparison of these three studies is shown in -
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Russia - Who Will Get the Property of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by OrphanCrow inhttp://www.interessant.ru/politics/komu-dostanietsia-imushchie.
who will get the property of jehovah's witnesses?.
the sect "jehovah's witnesses", recognized as an extremist organization and banned in russia, owned real estate worth 4 billion rubles.
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The above house would be in Austrian possession.
For example, in order to return Mikhalkovo, it will be necessary to enter into a conflict with Austria, and in order to return Sunny, it will be necessary to conflict with the United States.
Interestingly this house already serves the community, as it appears as "House of culture"!
Obviously Austrian JW organisation already made a deal with the Moscow Towngovernment for a fair use of the house. And I think that this was already the case from the beginning.
It seems as Austria avoided such a conflict from the start and remains the owner but offered it free of cost as "house of culture" for other usage too. This is only my thoughts. However this could be a way and example for all JW posessions, kingdom halls ...become houses of culture,
And as JW are honouring all cultures anyway it is should be no problem for them to use some of the donated money for the creation of such "houses of culture" in whole Russia. What a witness if JW would support such a use of their money and property, be cooperative and so be able to stop persecution for JW. This would be a job for Austrian GB-member Gerrit Loesch, should he not visit pro-actively Moscow for checking the situation on the ground if this property serves really as house of culture and speak about future projects. Without diplomacy it will not come off to make progress.
Building a network with Moscow Towngovernment is certainly better than waiting for the attorneys and human right lawyers.
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Russia - Who Will Get the Property of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by OrphanCrow inhttp://www.interessant.ru/politics/komu-dostanietsia-imushchie.
who will get the property of jehovah's witnesses?.
the sect "jehovah's witnesses", recognized as an extremist organization and banned in russia, owned real estate worth 4 billion rubles.
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This would have been the Moscow WTS office 2016 if my assumptions and search is correct, it is an estate next the Golovinsky pond at the south-east door.
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Russia - Who Will Get the Property of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by OrphanCrow inhttp://www.interessant.ru/politics/komu-dostanietsia-imushchie.
who will get the property of jehovah's witnesses?.
the sect "jehovah's witnesses", recognized as an extremist organization and banned in russia, owned real estate worth 4 billion rubles.
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While the Solnechoye property was the Russian "Administrative Center of Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia" situated in St. petersburg (11.4 hectares of land) while the money was enought to efford a "Moscow branch office" ( 3194.7 sq. m,) which was in Moscow, at an estate behind these doors below. But this second property, which as bought illegally could not be sold to the Russian branch, but in remains in Austrian ownership, reportedly
Now if ound that it is for rent
http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapid=240779202
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Russia - Who Will Get the Property of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by OrphanCrow inhttp://www.interessant.ru/politics/komu-dostanietsia-imushchie.
who will get the property of jehovah's witnesses?.
the sect "jehovah's witnesses", recognized as an extremist organization and banned in russia, owned real estate worth 4 billion rubles.
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For Googlemap search just fill in the address for bethel " Sdrednaya 4" in google map and take time for a walkaround in the region.
I fist walked virtually from the main ul Tankisvtov to bethel at sdrednaya 4 and then around the whole complex at the small ways.
Later I looked for the first acdess to the beach, what would be the Dachnachy or the Petrovskaya where the " Atlantis restorant" is situated (below)
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Russia - Who Will Get the Property of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by OrphanCrow inhttp://www.interessant.ru/politics/komu-dostanietsia-imushchie.
who will get the property of jehovah's witnesses?.
the sect "jehovah's witnesses", recognized as an extremist organization and banned in russia, owned real estate worth 4 billion rubles.
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The bethel was next to the beach in the village of Sunshine on the Gulf of Finland N
Here the beach on a sunny day. (Google map "Solnechoye")
Entry
Entry is next to a property of "Petrobir" a beer brewery Privzavod Petrobir
which was the neighbour of the bethel family.
Beech