Posts by TheWonderofYou

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JW babies don't always get blood transfusions

by OrphanCrow in

it is a common misconception that a jw baby who requires a blood transfusion will get one through a court order.

this does not always happen.. the following study demonstrates how a jw baby is vulnerable to being used for experimental procedures.. sn-mesoporphyrin interdiction of severe hyperbilirubinemia in jehovah's witness newborns as an alternative to exchange transfusion.. the condition that these two jw babies had was hyperbilirubinemia (jaundice).

in both cases, the parents refused to give permission for their babies to receive an exchange transfusion after the standard treatment of phototherapy didn't work.

TheWonderofYou

HLC let the doctors and ethic committees believe that (excerpt of the guideline):

"Children of witnesses Jehovahs have no social disadvantages in their family or in a blood transfusion to expect their social environment. This will be clear from relevant publications. The Jehovah's Witness Local Hospital Relations Committee also has confirmed this.
As a rule, Jehovah's Witnesses also accept the legal obligation of the doctors, if necessary to interfere with parental responsibility, provided that the persons entitled to care have refuse consent to medically necessary treatments with blood transfusions.
Likewise, parents usually understand the crisis of conscience of doctors, if they would not treat children."
Askepios clinics Sankt Augustin, 2011
http://www.ethikkomitee.de/downloads/leitlinie_sa_zj.pdf

Other german information

EMERGENCY TREATMENT OF JW

https://www.thieme.de/viamedici/arzt-im-beruf-aerztliches-handeln-1561/a/medizinrecht-zeugen-jehovas-4620.htm

MEDICAL LAW - JW ABORTION, FERTILISATION

http://www.medizinrecht-stickler.at/02_Medizinrecht/02-01_Grundlagen/Jehovas_co.htm

In case of imminent danger - in case of emergency, the doctor must treat arthritis according to accepted scientific methods and perform a required blood transfusion!

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What are the "inner rooms" of Isaiah 26:20? The answer may surprise you !!!

by jwdoctrine in

"go, my people, enter your inner rooms, and shut your doors behind you.hide yourself for a brief moment until the wrath has passed by.

"(isaiah 26:20).

one of the questions that seem to trouble the governing body of the jehovah's witnesses in recent year is this: what will jehovah's witnesses be doing during the destruction of babylon the great?

TheWonderofYou

I guess it is the place where you are closest to the center of worship... in its heart... warwick, where the core team works.... behind the temple curtain ...which is the latest digital 4.o firewall and secret publisher ID..

Indeed astonishing hypocrisy of GB:

They are urging others to fear persecution and fearmonger about hiding away and install a centralized database with all private info ever about all JW members at the same time!!! Risking so getting easy hacked by the persecutors!! @How contraproductive and irresponsible so short before the attacks! Knowing there is no 100 ÷ secure data protection

As if in our age ecaxtly the enemy- hacker will not be interested and able to get to anyones names from a JW database, e.g. activties, place of living or health situation of lical elders.

GB is indeed not fearing anylonger seemingly or fearmongering over private data LOSS of its members to possible persecutors in the tribulation how heartlesy and nonresponsible

But they wont give their own data into the system I suppose but I wont speculate od course about the things in the future. Lets see then if the records of GB members will be printed out by the UN data specialists when the attacks start persecuting them at the coming " Babylon Great courts" by using hacked publisher ID with data.

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Gloom and Doom from 100 years ago -- Watch Tower 1918

by FatFreek 2005 in

i thought it would be enlightening to see what jws said 100 years ago.

it's no different as we check out the jan 1, 1918 watch tower and herald of christ's presence.. .

TheWonderofYou

100 years: Rutherford and seven other Watch Tower executives were imprisoned in 1918 after charges were laid over the publication of The Finished Mystery, a book deemed seditious for its opposition to World War I.

A public talk titled "The World Has Ended; Millions Now Living May Never Die" was first delivered on February 24, 1918 in Los Angeles, California. Five weeks later, on March 31, 1918 the title was changed to indicate absolute certainty:

The World Has Ended; Millions Now Living Will Never Die."

The public talk continued to be delivered under that same title until 1925. The material was published as this book in 1920. This book may be of interest to students of human psychology and students of religious movements, particularly millennialist apocalyptic, "prophetic" religious movements."

Millions_Now_Living_Will_Never_Die.html?id=uFn7PQJeorwC&redir_esc=y

1918 was the begin of a new epoche of biblestudents. They were urged to preach with the focus on the "millions now living will never die" talk and the earthly resurrection of OT heroes. This teaching only stopped 1925.

About this epoche 100 years ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jMuE9d8wvnU

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Personal Data Permission (Spain)

by paradiseseeker in

jw
friends

i had the meeting yesterday and there it was announced that there will be a new law passed in spain regarding personal data.

that law makes it compulsory for the wt spanish branch to collect a signed permission from the publishers to keep and utilize personal data.

no choice was given to us, we were just told to make sure we hand in our signed permissions before may 18th.

TheWonderofYou

"Alexa whom should I talk or let me say .help .so that I get the most efficient results in the evaluation without being mingled in others affairs and without being accussable for non correct help?"

"You better sh* up" and dont make the same mistakes like Zuckerberg."

"Alexa... you dont understand me.. cough.. who is worthy ... for. ... pri..vi...le..ddzze 😁?"

"You are not worthy for privil-edge yet.. moment .. you have to wait .... 30 years.. 2038 minimum @armageddon. ..just kidding bro. ... my program is not.... yet optimized... a proposal: meet and greet grandma sister Luzi Sue 2 times pray eith her. She "has-not-been" online or meetings for ....5 months phffff long. Yes call her."

"Alexa this is not much exciting.. any other faster possibility to climb up faster and get the real cool priviledges ....less work but more adoration .., look again in my database I served 30 years after all?"

"You take the emblems?"

"I'm quite confused about that buuut ....yesss. although i dont know whether I am worthy for that at all" 😊

"Then you have got your best priviledge. Dont care if it doesnt pay out, thats the same with all the others too cause its program to mislead you."

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Life during the 1,000 reign???

by Joliette in

jw
friends

me and my brother recently got into a discussion about the 1,000 reign.

i told him that even after armageddon, you know that you still have to work for your salvation??

he says yes, that he is prepared to work for jehovah (wth), and that it will be a wonderful time.

TheWonderofYou

The Satans will be travelling sheperds who recover from your farm a certain tribut each month for the earthly prince who is selected for 400 yesrs and lives in luxury. He cannot be dropped of office cause he is was elected by the slave who survived the final war. You wont have even time to complain about your fate in paradise but you will drudge all day long to meet up with the prince'es measure of labour.

Farming building learning repeating sitting pressure, donating.

They may even use your body as guinea pigs cause all research will have gone lost. Everything will be new ever again.in jubilee circles. You will have to register for all programs- available , accountable. A prolonged spiritual paradise.

As blood will be forbidden there will be massive need of illegal donated red blood cells from apostae donators to produce allowed bood products - slices. As apos will trade with slices and make a living of it on the cost of the bleeding faithful ones. There will be only three groups -apos (rebels) and slaves and nobles.

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Biotech company Amgen helping JW with Anemia

by TheWonderofYou in

oiwhen a jw is in a life threatening anemia situation or needs a coronary artery bypass in case of dialysis-dependent chronic renal failure there is bloodless solution: .

epo ....this stands for "erythropoietin" also par in "epoetin" "epogen" and replaces the lost blood seemingly.

it counts to the allowed bloodless therapies.. what was jehovahs part in it?

TheWonderofYou

The following academy took also place this March in Europe. Again Prof. Hofmann presiding in the school and teaching about "iron deficiency anemia".

Networking.

http://medahead-fortbildung.at/event/eisen-akademie-3/

Progam with Prof. Hofmann's talks:

http://medahead-fortbildung.at/wp-content/uploads/2018_Eisenakademie_Einladung.pdf

The eventmanagement medahead organises in Austria seminars and conventions for doctors at the highest level. Networking.

http://medahead-fortbildung.at/

...and is part of the "Medical Opinion Network" an association for support of interdisciplinary communcation in medicine.

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Biotech company Amgen helping JW with Anemia

by TheWonderofYou in

oiwhen a jw is in a life threatening anemia situation or needs a coronary artery bypass in case of dialysis-dependent chronic renal failure there is bloodless solution: .

epo ....this stands for "erythropoietin" also par in "epoetin" "epogen" and replaces the lost blood seemingly.

it counts to the allowed bloodless therapies.. what was jehovahs part in it?

TheWonderofYou

I wouldn't call it "unkowingly" associations, though. Not at all.

Of course my statement was intended ironically. Innovations like that can only happen in good network surroundings. Thank you Crow for your suppementary informations.

An example for a PBM network is the "European Network" that initated the March 2018 symposium in Germany at the Goethe university Frankfurt at which Jehovahs witnesses representatives also are networking in the Biochtech industry. (Flyer below) Under the speakers that spoke last month about the Patient blood management perspectives were famous players like A. Hofmann as well as A. Shander and D. Spahn.

https://www.patientbloodmanagement.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/2018_01_30-Flyer-Global-PBM-Symposium-2018-_ENG_LQ.pdf

Among the Sponsors was the the Hospital Liaison Committe Germany representing presumably the European branch in Selters.

Bronze Sponsors (1,050€)
BBraun Melsungen AG • CODAN pvb Medical GmbH • CSL Behring GmbH • Ferring Arzneimittel GmbH •
KVK Zeugen Jehovas • Radiometer AG •

Under the speakers about the Patient blood management perspectives were famous JW Hofmann as well as A. Shander and D. Spahn, cited in the Awake of 2000.

Moreover I googled and found that in March 2018 a seminary about PBM was held in Austria with guest professor A.Hofmann and other EU key-players in PBM organised by "Workinggroup perioperative coagulation".

https://www.oegari.at/arbeitsgruppen/arge-perioperative-gerinnung

Or course this group of Austrian top emergency doctors have contact in organisation and bringing forward technologies. You can see for yourself how much JW are thematized at such seminars.

Excerpt from programm

https://www.oegari.at/web_files/files_veranstaltungen/programm_pbm2018_1115.pdf

and that Prof. Hofmann (JW) is speaking for himself about the worldwide results in implementation of this school.

So the European networking is on top level this year also thanks to Prof. Hofmann.

But how is this all related to the subject Amgen? Actually here in this specific event Amgen was not directly involved

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Biotech company Amgen helping JW with Anemia

by TheWonderofYou in

oiwhen a jw is in a life threatening anemia situation or needs a coronary artery bypass in case of dialysis-dependent chronic renal failure there is bloodless solution: .

epo ....this stands for "erythropoietin" also par in "epoetin" "epogen" and replaces the lost blood seemingly.

it counts to the allowed bloodless therapies.. what was jehovahs part in it?

TheWonderofYou

OIWhen a JW is in a life threatening anemia situation or needs a coronary artery bypass in case of dialysis-dependent chronic renal failure there is bloodless solution:

EPO ....this stands for "erythropoietin" also par in "epoetin" "epogen" and replaces the lost blood seemingly. It counts to the allowed bloodless therapies.

What was Jehovahs part in it? Did he support development of it somehow e.g. by testing at JW patients?

Do you know who are the woman and men who produce EPO for JW?

EPOGEN® is a medicine that acts like the hormone, erythropoietin. EPOGEN® helps the body create more red blood cells and raises the hemoglobin level in your blood.

Epoetin is manufactured and marketed by Amgenunder the trade name Epogen. Johnson & Johnsonsubsidiary Janssen Biotech (formerly Ortho Biotech Products, LP), sells the same drug under the name Procrit, pursuant to a product license agreemen

Amgen History has its headquarter in Thousand oaks california, Conejo Valley. California and subsidiaries everywhere. 18000 jobs. Its the biggest biotech company and rich. Look at the biotech pioneer history. "Applied Molecular Genetics"

Amgen Inc is an American multinational biopharmaceutical company headquartered in Thousand Oaks, California. Located in the Conejo Valley, Amgen is the world's largest independent biotechnology firm.

Amgen is supporting innovative technique like patient blood management research and information initiatives therefore it sponsors also presumably unknowingly associations that engage sometimes a JW speaker who promotes bloodless medicine.

.....

Info

www.amgenhistory.com/.../amgen/... pdf

http://www.amgenhistory.com

Stock price history

http://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMGN/prices/amgen-inc-stock-price-history

Erythopoientin for Jehovah's Witnesses

http://163.178.103.176/Tema3C/APortal/CardioCG/FisoCardio00/LaUIII/U3Ob1/ejw.htm

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Hospital refuses surgery on JW patient - Switzerland

by TheWonderofYou in

switzerland - .

jw files a suit because his surgery was refused!

supreme court decides against jw.. in the present case, the dilemma to which the hospital refers is not at all.

TheWonderofYou

Quote SFR

The man wanted to operate in a hospital in Bern because of a gang disc incident. The clinic turned him down because he did not allow him to be treated with blood transfusion if necessary. The person concerned claimed that he felt humiliated and traumatized. He subsequently sued the clinic for discrimination.

The Federal Court has now dismissed the plaintiff. Among other things, the Lausanne judges state in their explanatory statement that a clinic "with good reason" does not want to run the risk of bleeding a patient during the operation. In order to present a clear line and to be able to rule out any appearance of unequal treatment or discrimination, the clinic relies on a generally abstract formulated consent.

So the man has a right to medical treatment and respect for his beliefs. The doctors, however, have a right to rescue their patients in an emergency, according to the Federal Supreme Court. At the same time, the operation of disc herniation was not vital and the man could then be operated on in another clinic. Therefore he was not discriminated.

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Hospital refuses surgery on JW patient - Switzerland

by TheWonderofYou in

switzerland - .

jw files a suit because his surgery was refused!

supreme court decides against jw.. in the present case, the dilemma to which the hospital refers is not at all.

TheWonderofYou

Update : Lausanne federal court decided in March that hospital had good reasons not to risk that JW died. It was no discrimination to shun and avoid treatment of a JW patient who wanted bloodless therapy in a private clinics and suffered herniation. "Flashed off"

https://www.medinside.ch/de/post/zeugen-jehovas-blutransfusion-bundesgericht-bern-haykaz-zoryan

https://m.bernerzeitung.ch/articles/5ab2641fab5c370b09000001