Posts by SummerAngel

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question about the go bags.

by goingthruthemotions in

its been a minute since posting, have been trying to put this cult in my review mirror and just live life.

but you know this beast rears it's evil head.

my wife found my crisis of conscience book and out came the horns plus i guess what she is hearing at the meetings isn't helping either.

I can see that in US go bags are useful for natural disasters but in UK they are definitely put forward as Amagedon mongering. My aged and physically infirm parents badgered some poor sales assistant in a sleepy Coastal Sussex town for foil blankets and such like.

Don’t know whether to laugh or cry!! I did suggest that given they can hardly make it from their front door to the pavement carrying large boxes of water, tins of spuds and other rubbish maybe a struggle but apparently Jehovah will give them the strength. Haha.

If the GB really believed this crap surely they would stash for whole cong at KH and bunkers. Given aging nature of Congs the every man for himself approach is inhuman And ridiculous. In any other more caring group there would be proper measures in place to protect and help those less frail but then it’s a selfish cult that has never shown charity to anyone in or out. Also if the GB really believed the end was nigh then those PIMI wouldn’t just be given vague cryptic instructions there would be definite plans in place.

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Is attendance down in your location too?

by StarryNight9 in

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i was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.

memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.

my jw family has even mentioned it.

SummerAngel

Song my family go to has merged so at least one whole song gone, I last went late 80s used to get around 120 give or take numbers reported to be around 60 now.reported by parents who are PIMI. They are of course in complete denial and blame it on 'high local house prices ' funny how this doesn't affect other churches who are increading. I don't think they realise of believe decline is National. Area is South East UK

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What immodest clothing have you got in trouble for wearing?

by Addison0998 in

i personally have a very distinct sense of style and fashion which many of the fellow jdubs frown upon.

recently, i was told by a few specially self righteous ones that i looked like a prostitute in a pair of white boots!

a pair of 3 inch heeled, just a little taller than the ankle boots, with skirt that came down to my knees and a black long sleeve shirt that came up to my collarbone.

SummerAngel

Back in the 80s I dyed my hair pink in time for the memorial, that went down a storm I was 14.

Also any skirt with a split in it was a prozzie skirt. Oh and I also got spied out when I was 40 miles away at uni and reported back to parents Cong for wearing a above knee skirt with woolly tights and flat boots.

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Evening gala/ball

by Researchedandenlightened in

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can anyone tell me when, and why jehovahs witnesses hold evening gala,s / ball with full tuxedo,s and evening gowns ?

is it uk only as i have heard family throughout the uk attend these events (jw only) of course !.

what is the purpose of these events and how long have the dubs being doing so ?

SummerAngel

I think they basically a dating fest to meet eligible dubs outside your area. My brother went to them when he was single, cost about £60 dinner and dance ( or grub n a rub). He went about 10 yes ago I think most were London based often on a boat on the Thames. I think they were a fairly open secret amongst dubs

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who has been out the longest?

by stan livedeath in

who has been out of the cult the longest ?.

i'll start--i resigned in 1971, but attended occasionally as a non-interested husband to keep the wife sweet, untill my last circuit assembly in autumn 1980. no connection with the cult since then.

so--its either 47 or 38 years, depending on how you see it.. which begs the question--why am i on this site now ?.

SummerAngel

I was never baptised but started moving away aroung 1986 when i went to uni but had serious doubts pretty much as far back as i was able to articulate them around age 7 which would have been 1974. Remember 75 being annouced in 74 at Twickers assembly. When it didnt happen just compounded it even further. So so glad i didnt get bapped or marry a dub

most of family still in unfortunately.

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Support groups to assist individuals to leave high control groups such as Jehovah's witnesses

by UnshackleTheChains in

just watched ' one of us' on netflix about individuals who are trying to leave the hasidic orthodox jewish faith group (a high control group within judaism).. i found it interesting as those who rebel or leave are virtually ostracized from their community.

the documentary is an eye opener into their highly insular community.

one of the things i thought interesting is that there is a support group called footsteps to help hasidic jews wanting to leave the strict insular way of life so that they can move on with their lives.. this got me thinking.

SummerAngel

Reahout Trust in UK is Chriatrian based but has volunteers who will support people wanting to leave cults particularly JWs. They only suport those who want to leave. Obviously theyre support is from a Christian perspective but they are not about recruiting for Christianity they are about suporting people to leave a unbiblical high control cult. Me and Mr angel are violunteers.

My only issue is volunteers arent trained counsellors and i think if you are going to offer support in something as complex as leaving a cult that you should be. I am training now with a view to specializing in this later.

Ive been out aprox 30 years and i didnt even know there was an ex JW community until 2 years ago.

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Kingdom Halls sold.

by zeb in

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please list kh that you know of that have been sold..

SummerAngel

Osmond Rd Brighton UK

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Did You Ever Luke ANY Songs From The “Songbook “?

by minimus in

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i went on line looking for old jw songs and some of them were pretty good and some were just awful!.

did you ever like any of those songs?

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SummerAngel

Quite a few were blatant hymn rip offs, can't give examples been out too long. Pink songbook was better more recent have been awful. I also hate the way there is only 1 wedding song so you're stuck with it typical Borg 1 size fits all.

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Why do so many that leave wind up coming back?!

by nowwhat? in

i have seen so many that have left.

and their life turned into a dumpster fire.

most do not live the average life of living in suburbs, raising a family.

SummerAngel

I think many flit in and out for a while before jumping not sure how many return permanently. I think the WT does everything possible to prevent you getting a sense of real "world" life. Its all very much like the film 'the village" .

In terms of why when people leave they would appear to hit the skids I think its 2 main things- firstly you only tend to hear of the bad cases not the ones who just go on to lead normal lives as there's nothing interesting about those. But secondly something not yet raised I think I'd that JWs are brought up with at best skewed more likely no internal moral compass. Absolutely every decision is arrived at and evaluated via JW glasses. Even the most basic societal things- death of a loved one for example _ reaction is are they a JW if not well God would have destroyed them anyway, this just isn't normal. Every decision whether its clothing, sex, entertainment is led by what the organization finds acceptable. A person never learns by their mistakes or their successes in fact learning through life is something to be discouraged and feared.

Put this together with a warped perception of what worldly people do, drink smoke take drugs and shag as many people as possible its a recipe for failure, then when it all goes wrong it just goes to show the WT was right and God is punishing your sin rather than accepting consequences for actions just as we all have to.

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What Is The Most Ridiculous Thing You Have Heard From A Witness?

by minimus in

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i remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.

he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.

interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.

SummerAngel

The stuff that wouldn't burn story was circulating in SE UK too when I was a kid. There was another one about a girl who was strangled by her nightie due to demons.

We can scarevthe s***t out of our kids with this nonsense but can't let them play with fairies, unicorns or read Barry Trotter , absolutely ridiculous.