Definition of surmise
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: a thought or idea based on scanty evidence…
Well, you certainly did surmise something..
DD 🤔
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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?
by DATA-DOG indr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?
by DATA-DOG indr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
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“Anti Vaxers like DD don't seem to care enough about people.”
That’s just inaccurate. I think you know it.
DD
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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?
by DATA-DOG indr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
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DATA-DOG
Is it appropriate to have a healthcare system that utterly fails to address prevention which leads to reacting to crises instead of responding? Is it appropriate for an extra 20 million ( UN estimate ) people in Africa to die as a result of unnecessary lockdowns that stopped supply chains for food? How do you feel about that? Do you know what another lockdown will do to disadvantaged people in 3rd world countries?
I don’t have to be smarter than any government official, although the bar is low these days, I just need to quote someone who is. I’m certainly smarter that Trudeau.
It’s been proven over and over that prevention and early treatment work. You either don’t care, or haven’t seen the information due to censorship. The rampant censorship and money trail should be a GIANT red flag for anyone with common sense. Repurposed drugs have also been extremely successful and saved lives, yet because of greed and politics they have been suppressed and discussions have been censored. It that appropriate?
People die every day for some reason. It could be the flu, Covid-19, Congestive heart failure, ect. People dying doesn’t justify lockdowns and censorship and coercing medical treatments or mandating them, and it certainly doesn’t justify the banning of discussions involving proven experts in the fields of Virology, Micro-biology and Pathology, ect.
There are plenty of experts who aren’t “anti-vaxxers” who recognize that nothing has been handled appropriately from the start of this whole mess. Or, they have been handled exactly the way you would expect if the ultimate goal was money and more power.
DD
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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?
by DATA-DOG indr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
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“Only thing you do DD is pull biased selective information from somewhere that supports your biased position, kind of like JWS trying to support their doctrines”
Wrong. Also a very weak argument. I’ve encouraged everyone, not just you, to look at multiple sources of information, especially experts from around the world who have been censored, ect. I’m not sure how that equates to bias in your mind. Also, your argument does nothing to address the issue of naturally acquired immunity. Have you done any research on this subject? It’s fascinating.
You’re trying to attribute dropping case numbers with vaccination programs alone which is simply not true, but it is the easiest answer to give.
DD
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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?
by DATA-DOG indr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
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DATA-DOG
“The fact is that unvaccinated people have more of chance of suffering worse symptoms from this virus with its new variants.”
Really? I’ve heard the exact opposite from Virologists who don’t get a platform. They say the Delta variant is much more contagious but not nearly as deadly as Covid-19.
What are these symptoms? Will I feel like I have the Flu for a week versus 2 days? What are the ultimate risks for my long term health if I take a vaccine vs staying in bed a few more days?
One of the issues surrounding this subject is that certain folks refuse to read information because they are convinced in their minds that the source justifies dismissing everything said on a certain subject. That’s throwing the baby out with the bath water and mentally lazy.
For example: You’re convinced ( usually without doing any research because research is hard ) that Dr X is a wacko because Company Z tells you so on its website that this is the case. So, when someone shares a link that you “know” is sharing “misinformation”, you refuse to look it up. Why should you? Company Z told you what to think.
DD
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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?
by DATA-DOG indr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
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DATA-DOG
Your raise an interesting point Jeffro. An analogy is an process where we take meaning from one subject and transfer it to another, i.e, “The human brian is like a computer.”
She’s trying to make a comparison between being unvaccinated ( As the “expert” she should make the distinction between whether or not she is speaking of persons who have natural immunity or persons who have never come in contact with Covid-19, the latter being virtually impossible at this point ) and being a drunk driver which is a completely false and irresponsible thing to say, especially when given the platform to reach millions of people.
There is no similarity between the two subjects so as to make an analogy. There is simply the appearance of similarity, much like the JW/Baptism/License comparison which is also false.
“That sound is like nails on a blackboard .” Is a metaphor. The sound could be very different from the actual sound of nails on a blackboard, but the reader has to understand the meaning of the metaphor and recognize that the “sound” is not analogous to nails on a blackboard.
“It's just a metaphor for quickly comparing ideas. Most readers with a fairly basic education would understand the intent of the comparison the doctor was making.”
Sadly, the “intent” of the comparison is to make “most readers”, listeners in this case, believe that the “sound” is actually “nails on a blackboard” when it isn’t. She wants the public to view unvaccinated people as they would drunk drivers. That is completely false and irresponsible because one is not like other at all. The subject is far too nuanced, but that doesn’t matter as the “News” simply wants shock value to influence the fairly basically educated public.
This “fairly basic education” you mention doesn’t seem to exist given that fact that many, many people are swallowing the bait, hook, line and sinker.
“Analogies prove nothing, that is true, but they can make one feel more at home.”
- Sigmund Freud
DD
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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?
by DATA-DOG indr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
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DATA-DOG
Good morning,
Nice to see the usual suspects with their insults are showing up.. 🙄
I’m not saying there is a 1:1 comparison between her analogy and the JW/driver’s license analogy, although they are both meant to be manipulative. Her analogy simply reminds me of the baptism/license analogy. They don’t make sense when you step back, remove the emotional/fear generating aspects that all propaganda preys upon.
DD
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Logical Fallacy… can I get some help here?
by DATA-DOG indr. leanna wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… they have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had sars cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the mrna shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry big pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
it reminds me of the borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license.
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DATA-DOG
Dr. Leanna Wen is currently spreading the fallacy that unvaccinated persons should have vaccines mandated because they are like drunk drivers… They have the right to be drunk at home she says, but wanting to be part of society at large without being vaccinated is like driving drunk and putting others at risk.
Besides ignoring the science proving that persons who have had SARS cov-2 have natural immunity that equals or exceeds anything that could be imparted from the MRNA shot, without the side effects or need for boosters, ( sorry Big Pharma, you’ll be losing $$$ ) this illustration just smacks of illogical reasoning.
It reminds me of the Borg comparing getting baptized to getting your driver’s license. I just can’t put my finger on the exact logical fallacy it falls under.
Anyway, the talking heads of the Leftist media are eating it up. If you haven’t heard this latest whopper you may want to look it up.
DD
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45K Death Count from Covid Shot Lawsuit
by was a new boy inhttps://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/3c6a0774-cfad-46fa-aa97-af5aa5e74f00/jane%20doe%20declaration.pdf.
https://renz-law.com/45k-whistleblower-suit.
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DATA-DOG
If you believe paid “fact-checkers” then you still believe bullshit. If you trust the S.I.F.T method of thought ( read that article…from the NYT.. I think..) then you don’t have a clue of how to do actual research. Just turn off your brain… No wonder there are almost zero journalists left..
Gotta love the snarky, personal attacks from all the folks who have done zero research and have listened to zero Virologists, Microbiologists, Doctors, ect outside of the Mainstream narrative.
Believe the people that hold the patents to Sars COV-2 and the “vaccines” if you want to. That’s your choice. Believe the people that ran Gain of function research and lied about it if you want to. Believe the people that sent out “vaccines” with no ingredients info or blank papers in the boxes to Pharmacies if you want to.
It’s one thing to believe the BS that the whole world is evil and all people are serving Satan, and it’s another thing to just blindly believe Career Politicians and The Clinton Foundation and Bill Gates, and the UN and Big Tech and Big Pharma.
There’s a middle ground, and in my opinion, blindly believing groups like the FDA who actually tried to outlaw natural supplements because they can’t patent them and make $$$$, is not the middle ground. Neither is blindly trusting the Media and the $$$ that runs them..
DD
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45K Death Count from Covid Shot Lawsuit
by was a new boy inhttps://img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/3c6a0774-cfad-46fa-aa97-af5aa5e74f00/jane%20doe%20declaration.pdf.
https://renz-law.com/45k-whistleblower-suit.
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DATA-DOG
I believe whatever Me.Wonderful says. He or She/ They/Them/Zimmzure whatever the hell seems very intelligent. Joined 3 days ago too..
DD