Well, yeah. That doesn't stop people from thinking that it was an idyllic time. Personally, I look forward to the future.
But I know that there are people who gripe about how things are worse. I just want to know WHY.
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Does anyone here believe that things are worse than they were in the past?
by Trismegistus ini still hear this crop up every once in a while, so i figured that i'd open it up to a wide audience.. things are looking pretty good to me..
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Does anyone here believe that things are worse than they were in the past?
by Trismegistus ini still hear this crop up every once in a while, so i figured that i'd open it up to a wide audience.. things are looking pretty good to me..
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I would have thought that people would say the 1950s... Or has Mad Men negated the glamor of that time?
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Does anyone here believe that things are worse than they were in the past?
by Trismegistus ini still hear this crop up every once in a while, so i figured that i'd open it up to a wide audience.. things are looking pretty good to me..
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I still hear this crop up every once in a while, so I figured that i'd open it up to a wide audience.
Things are looking pretty good to me.
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Getting re-instated for fun & profit.
by Trismegistus inas i have previously mentioned, i have been df'd for about eleven years.
recent issues have brought me back to meetings for a bit.
of course, the elders desire to talk to me about my options.. .
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I suppose this wool-gathering is due to my general low self-confidence right now. I'm uprooted and currently lonely. While my parents love & accept me for my atheist ways (a rarity!), a difficulty in communication is to be expected.
This too, shall pass.
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Getting re-instated for fun & profit.
by Trismegistus inas i have previously mentioned, i have been df'd for about eleven years.
recent issues have brought me back to meetings for a bit.
of course, the elders desire to talk to me about my options.. .
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I dunno. Right now I'm bored and really have few people to talk to. Until I change that around, it's a good enough way to get out of the house.
Really, I'd post more specifics, but I don't know how tech-savvy some of the younger Elders in the congregation are. I mean, this site is the first forum on a Google search! Even the largest Luddite could find this place!
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Getting re-instated for fun & profit.
by Trismegistus inas i have previously mentioned, i have been df'd for about eleven years.
recent issues have brought me back to meetings for a bit.
of course, the elders desire to talk to me about my options.. .
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Eh, they scrutinized my private life & gossiped about me LONG after I left. And you get used to being treated like scum by the majority.
Still, there are current JWs that are only there for the fear of ostracism that I've already faced. And there was always the bizarre belief around here that it's OK to talk with faded/non-baptized exJWs.
I figure lying to get reinstated will be just as easy as lying to get baptised.
Editing for the additional comment: I suppose there's that aspect too. Just showing folks that they can't rely on the Elders to accurately gauge the real intentions. Their Holy Spirit would certainly be flawed to allow me back.
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Getting re-instated for fun & profit.
by Trismegistus inas i have previously mentioned, i have been df'd for about eleven years.
recent issues have brought me back to meetings for a bit.
of course, the elders desire to talk to me about my options.. .
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Thank you! I'm assuming- as always- that this is based on the congregation's elders?
What if the local elders have no contact information for you? Can they DF you based on this?
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Getting re-instated for fun & profit.
by Trismegistus inas i have previously mentioned, i have been df'd for about eleven years.
recent issues have brought me back to meetings for a bit.
of course, the elders desire to talk to me about my options.. .
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As I have previously mentioned, I have been DF'd for about eleven years. Recent issues have brought me back to meetings for a bit. Of course, the elders desire to talk to me about my options.
AT FIRST, my reaction was similar to my parents view- tell them vague promising things while attempting to get something out of them.
But then I thought about getting back & then dropping the whole shebang later. This would put me in a much better position to get things that I DO think are important- such as friends who don't believe, but for whatever reason won't leave. I can't put any judgement on them; I can think of any number of issues with leaving. I experienced some of them.
I mean, is there any way that I can have a disciplinary action put against me if I join and then ditch out? I didn't think that they could DF you if you don't go to the comittee.
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My not-so-grand arrival.
by Trismegistus inthis is mostly a test to see if the forum will allow me to write.
it didn't on a different browser that i was using- here's hoping!.
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I suppose some extra words are in order.
I was raised JW, and never believed. Through a combination of peer-pressure & a belief that there was something wrong with me, I got baptised when I was 18. I immersed myself in the JW experience for a few years- scheduled and impromptu talks, Regular pioneering, attendant, etc. The typical ubiquitous, high reaching brother.
After a few years of this, I pulled an abrupt stop. Stopped going to meetings, moved in with an ex-JW friend, met a girl. Through my sheer naive inexperience, she got pregnant & I decided to get DF'd. Went to the commitee unapolegetically, and that was that.
That was 11 years ago. Other things happened in this time.
Now I'm in a position where I'm back with my JW parents, who are loving and accepting of my (non)religious choice. They were not always loving or accepting.
As I shall write more on this quandry when I am able to create another topic, I'll skip that.
tl;dr: Unapologetic atheist with surprisingly good JW parents. Having a bit of a time being around the JW community again, and a bit paranoid to be more specific in the public areas of this forum.
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Hardest most awkward parts of being mentally out but physically in
by BU2B ini am still physically in but am completely out mentally.. i was curious for those who spent some time in the borg while being mentally out or are still in that position, what is the worst, hardest or most awkward parts... for me i intensly dislike attending the meetings however its bearable as i can just let my mind wander, but field service is awful.
i cannot try to bring someone in to a group that i am trying to plot a way out of.
so now i try my best to either spend the day driving around to others fruitless rv's (we have somewhat rural territory) or eating out at an extended breakfast or if door to door cannot be avoided, i try to work alone and not ring bells.
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I recognize that there are certain social benefits, which is why I'm thinking about being reinstated, even though I have no interest in being an honest JW again (I'm actually an atheist).
Around where I live, there have always been people who feel that they are able to talk with ANY former JW who wasn't baptised. The fear of reprisal comes from dealing with actual DF'd folks- the Western World's answer to Burakumin.
I was always under the impression that if you didn't go to the Commitee, they couldn't disfellowship you. Is this an accurate representation, or have I been lying to myself for these past 11 years? And if I'm right, what makes fading so difficult?