I came across this today. She is so spot on about this. She is also funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poE7NABxzkI
Edited to say some may not agree with it. From the outset she sounds very balanced. Further on it might not be to everyone's agreement and I certainly don't agree with everything she says. It's great to be out of the org to be able to disagree respectfully and not get taken into a back room with 3 men telling you that you absolutely must agree with everything.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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The Governing Body KNEW CSA was happening at Bethel
by Newly Enlightened inhttps://youtu.be/btryr_z7elg.
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I have only just came across this one now. I wonder if this can be used as evidence when I get called in front of the Scottish Government.
Around 4 months ago, I drew up a petition with the help of the UKXJW's support group and had quite a number of signatures. With Scottish petitions, you don't need a large amount of people signing, you only need 1 for them to look at it, yours.
Unaware of that, I sent out the question to ask in all forums including in this one, if people would sign it.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4833344146636800/pe1905-public-inquiry-into-response-religious-organisations-allegations-child-sexual-abuse-since-1950
I am awaiting the call to the Scottish Government togive more information as you can see in the statement from them below that they do indeed want more information about how Watchtower handles (CSA) child s3x abuse allegations and how it has impacted on the community. Regardless, I am saving this information as it could prove useful that a prominent member knew, he knew that CSA was happening and they did nothing, I repeat nothing about it. They did not inform the police, the did not inform child protection, they kept it quiet as they did in mine and many thousands of other cases.
https://www.scottishparliament.tv/meeting/citizen-participation-and-public-petitions-committee-december-1-2021?clip_start=10:30:17&clip_end=10:34:53 -
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Defamation:
'Defamation means causing serious harm to a person's reputation by publishing material about them that changes the way people feel about them. A person who claims to have been defamed can go to court to get compensation for the harm caused. ... Compensation could be money or a public apology.'
Joey JoJo
I am in the UK. I contacted the police about slanderous false rumours being posted on Facebook about a child, my child. The perpatrators? My sister's friends.
The police?
"All we can do is talk to her and ask her to take it down. It is largely up to her whether she heeds our advice or not"
They can't do JACK in the UK for defamation whether true or false. It is difficult to gather clear cut evidence and would waste CPS time. That's what I was told by the police. I still retain all the evidence, but difficult to prove in court. Considering the people who are commenting here are commenting under aliases. -
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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I don't know about Croatia or the UK, but in the United States its against the law (Title 18, section 2423 if anybody wants to check my homework) to travel to a foreign country to engage in sex practices illegal in the United States. It is possible that Evans' legal problems are just starting.
Jeff, I can answer that for you but you need to be aware that English Law and Scottish Law are different and there is no such thing as UK law. A bit like EU law where signatories sign up to it, or part of it or not at all, the United Kingdom is somewhat similar with the nations in the union.
According to the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) it is an offence to persist loitering for the purpose of prostituition. You can read all of it here.
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/prostitution-and-exploitation-prostitutionSome of his financial dealings would certainly get the attention of the IRS. Again, I don't know about the UK
Again not as clear cut because I have no idea what it is you are referring to with his financial dealings. Is it income tax?
You can find what you are looking for as all the legislation is there for public consumption.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/primary+secondary?title=financial
Lastly I make no bones about my dealings with Lloyd. I find the guy to be like marmite. You either love him or can't stand him. I fall into the latter category simply because, when I agreed with him, he was friendly. When I had a difference of opinion, critqued his work on the CSA video he did, highlighting Panorama Suffer the Little Children (BBC 2002) of which I took part in anonymously in 2002 - he stated and I quote "Well it can't be that bad. Have some empathy for the victims"!
As a survivor of that abuse I was shocked at the level of contempt he had for me after using the segments of the documentary that I was party to. I stopped watching his stuff since then and heard from many other activists around about the same time that they too had been bullied by him. Everytime I hear or read his name now, a boiling rage and a bad taste is left in my mouth because I was hurt so badly by his comment to me. It was not supportive in the slightest.
My critical feedback of that video started with words to the effect of it being good and I really hope many watch it, but, the spinning around made me feel sick as I do have motion sickness (which is why I can never play VR games or watch anything that can trigger it) and my suggestion was to put that in the beginning of the video for people who have that problem.
As far as this whole Thailand fiasco goes, the only thing we all really want to know is, was it between two legally consenting adults. Because prostitution of minors in Thailand is rife. 7.1 million people in poverty and many young girls and possibly boys as well, being forced into this due to financial problems. Regardless, I will still never watch another video from him again, put money into his pot at all because of the way I was treated by him. The only people I am concerned about is his wife and kids.
If Watchtower or JW lurkers are reading, we are not all sexually deviant as Lloyd has insinuated. Many of us have left and continue to lead pretty moral lives regardless of being in Watchtower or not. The "worldly" people are not all drug addicts, sexually immoral, drunkards etc, as Watchtower insinuates. -
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PE1905: Public Inquiry into the response of religious organisations to allegations of child sexual abuse since 1950
by silentlamb_silent_no_more inhi guys.
i live in scotland.
i need help from the xjw community.
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We (my sister and I) have both appeared in the media amongst other brave survivors - in BBC Panorama Suffer the little Children where I was anonymous.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/2114320.stm
Further to that and still not content with Watchtower's policies on this matter, I contacted the UK's papers "The Mirror and The Daily Record"
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/girl-who-abused-dad-five-10367995
I have to date, amongst other survivors, taken both abusers to court. The first got 5 years in jail and the second got 7 years. Both did half of that time on "good behaviour"
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PE1905: Public Inquiry into the response of religious organisations to allegations of child sexual abuse since 1950
by silentlamb_silent_no_more inhi guys.
i live in scotland.
i need help from the xjw community.
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@Anony Mous
I have already taken my abusers and Watchtower down legally. This is to get a law in place for mandatory reporting. Like I said, I won't go into the politics of it all between Scotland and England but basically, we could not go for our own Inquiry in Scotland until IICSA had concluded theirs. They have now concluded their inquiry which can be found at the link below.
I will not stop until Elders are required by law to report to the authorities and furthermore be held accountable if they do not.Child protection in religious organisations and settings Investigation Report
https://www.iicsa.org.uk/reports-recommendations/publications/investigation
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PE1905: Public Inquiry into the response of religious organisations to allegations of child sexual abuse since 1950
by silentlamb_silent_no_more inhi guys.
i live in scotland.
i need help from the xjw community.
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@Zachias
Thank you for your support. I will be sure to ensure that the parliament know about the Four Corners programme as that will give them more of an insight into this organisation. I think that programme is really good because it shows the doctrine, the insularity, how many victims and preds and how many were reported to the police - which we all know was none.
In regards to Watchtower, if they really were God's one true organisation on earth, they would have fessed up, admitted their mistakes, said sorry and would fully co-operate with governmental organisations (which are placed here on earth BY GOD) says so in the bible. But they don't. They lie, obfuscate cases like these which tells me, God is not in this organisation at all. In fact, the complete opposite is in this organisation sadly and too many people are blinded to the real truth because it is a narcissistic abusive organisation in itself and keeps on manipulating people to not hear the real truth about the insidious things going on in there.
I've been out since 1999 and it's taken us this long to get where we are at. Stressful at times, but I am not giving in until every child is protected. All I ask of watchtower is to cooperate with the governing authorities and change their policies. When they hear of an allegation of abuse, call the police - it's really that simple. Stop shunning people - it is not a loving arrangement, for the shunned or the shunners. Stop sacrificing children on surgery tables. -
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PE1905: Public Inquiry into the response of religious organisations to allegations of child sexual abuse since 1950
by silentlamb_silent_no_more inhi guys.
i live in scotland.
i need help from the xjw community.
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Hi guys
I live in Scotland. I need help from the xjw community. I understand that anyone in the UK and in Australia as it happens, can sign this petition.
I am Angela. I was born in 1980 and my parents converted to "da troof" shortly after my birth. So I guess you can say I was a born in. In the years 1991 - 1995 I was molested by my father. I took this to the elders and of course we all know the story from each and every survivor who has told it, they did nothing. They didn't call the police, they didn't phone child protection in fact they sent me and my sister home with our abusive father even though he confessed. We were both minors.
Further to this, one of the elders on that judicial committee, seen this story as an opportunity. He had already struck in the 1970's which would become apparent to us later on when we watched him being given his sentence. He continues to this day to say he is not guilty and that we all made it up, colluded together to ruin his life. I never knew of the other victims, bar one - my sister.
IICSA (The Independent Inquiry on Child S Abuse for England and Wales) has recently published it's findings. I won't go into the politics of this all, but basically, we could not budge in Scotland until England had concluded there inquiry.
My petition is now live and I have 4 weeks to gather signatures. Could you all please try to sign this and if it is a case where only those can sign it from the UK and the former colonies, could you please share it out? We need as many signatures as we can get for the Scottish Government to consider it.
Thanks.
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Does anyone have a copy of the Jan 1st 1989 Watchtower I can buy
by mickbobcat ini want to buy a copy not a copy of one but the actual copy of a 1989 jan 1st watchtower.
let me know i would like to have one to show someone i am talking to about it.
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I take it you want the hard copy?
This is the digital copy of course.
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Earthquake in Victoria Australia
by smiddy3 ini ,along with many other victorians in australia,experienced my first earthquake this morning about 9:15 am.. it was recorded as a 5.9 magnitude.and an after shock of 4.0 magnitude.. i was having a lay in bed due to the fact my wife had a bad night due to her health problems which affected my sleep as well.. and i thought geeeze she`s making a lot of racket coming up the passage to the bedroom with her walker and then the bed started shaking like crazy .
i thought my computer`s going to hit the deck along with the printer as other things started to fall over.. our house sits on concrete stumps and the thought went through me that the house could collapse ,but thankfully there was no structural damage that i could find.. apparently it was felt far and wide covering most of victoria / nsw and even tasmania.. anybody else here had a similar experience ?.
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I have never experienced an earthquake, however my understanding is that they are scary. Keep safe.