Of course we can't assume that. But we also cannot assume he is a phony. This needs a proper investigation by the authorities. Dijana needs to kick James Lloyd Evans out and be repatriated back to the UK. Then we deal with him. Unless that happens, as another poster verified - nothing can be done.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Define real. Can you be sure any of us are real here? What about people on Twitter? Are they real?
This forum was/is a place where doubting JW's would come to in the past and now, to discuss their doubts and come to their own informed conclusions about Watchtower.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Has anybody been able to verify that Marko Petrović exists and is a relative?
I am surmising what I know already. That Dijana's parents are still JW's. That JW's may at some point want to have their say, but remain anonymous (as I did in Panorama) about bad things happening within the org whilst not giving away my identity at the time.
Did any of you become sceptical when you watched BBC Panorama about what I was saying? What about when the BBC did the Victoria program with the two anon ex JW's there who were talking about the shunning? Did you question their validity?
These are the questions we must ask ourselves. Why would anyone make this up? People question me on what I know about an exJW, since deceased btw, with very official people who told me to keep my children away from this guy whilst he was living because of something he done. -
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Lloyd tells Sky News he left the the church because of the way child abuse was handled by the Watchtower Society. In a video he posted, he tells the real reason why he attended his judicial meeting and why he left left the church.
OMGoodness he cannot keep his lies straight anymore! That's a good find. Someone grab that video of his quick, before he takes it down.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Branch committee members don’t involve themselves with Judicial committee meetings in Croatia, or anywhere else….Unless it’s off the wall crazy shit…
Exactly! Anon in BBC Panorama Suffer the little children here. They sent "Jonathan Briggs" from UK Bethel to sort things out at my old congregation and became Presiding Overseer, (That title has now been removed if I'm correct?) Anyway, he demoted all of the elders there at the time and appointed new ones.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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The great apostate said something 2.5 years ago. I miss his videos. Anyone in communication with him?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Lloyd's theme song.
Dijana take the hint. You deserve better and so does everyone else.
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Thank you Mike and Kim for resurrecting this. I never got to watch it the first time around.
To answer your question "Have I ever been verbally abused by John Cedars aka James Lloyd Evans?" Yes, yes I have. He did it in a private message on my old facebook account. I spoke about this further up in this thread on page 15 if anyone wants to read it because I'm so not repeating myself.
It has been a tiring week for us all and watching the current Evan's Gate followers cements it for me, that he's not going to go away. They were asleep in the org and they're still asleep now. They just replaced one leader for another. I have replied to comments, had my comments banned, deleted, reported from Lloyds faithful sheep. I have noticed the same language that current JW's use when we shout against Watchtower's bad policies and doctrines, as for those who are following Lloyd.
I help to administrate a group on Facebook and I am so done with all of this. If people are not going to listen and use their perceptive powers about this narcissistic abusive individual, then I don't know how much more help I or anyone else can be for them. There have been several people he has hurt and he still keeps on going. He's committed one of the most heinous sins, one that you can actually get executed for in Afghanistan and he still keeps going. People flock to him. Just like they flocked to Watchtower.
He could have used those funds at any point to help those girls out of the situation they found themselves in. He could have used those funds to set up a sanctuary for ex JW's who get kicked out of their JW parents homes for no longer wishing to be JW's, like what happened to me. He didn't. He used it for self gratification, hurt his wife and his children and then turns it around on anyone who says how they actually feel about this horrible, disgusting act and makes it out that Kim S is responsible for his sh!tty behaviour. What a horrible, horrible individual.
Bible or not, this disloyalty brings shame to his wife and he caused that, no one else caused it but him alone with his selfish degrading actions. She could get all of his money in a divorce because he was unfaithful to her. I hope she sees her self worth and I hope she realises just how much she could destroy him for this. I personally hope she does it because he does not love her. If he loved her, he would not have been unfaithful.
I am empathising with the community who are really angry at this and yet again, have it turned around on us, anyone who dares to question Lloyd. Rant over. Love to you all.
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I think we really should get a timeline of all the things he's done to this community and have it out there for people to refer to, because everything he has done to people from that day to this day, oh boy. There are tonnes of people who have been hurt by this man. Some he's apologised to, some he's not and actually just blocked them because they disagreed with him.
This one came to my attention again. I'd forgotten about this one. Timely reminder.
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That's just one picture that has leaked. Remember he said 3-4 years regular custome
So if the young lady in the photograph is recent and around 18 years old, 18-4? Even if she is 20. 20-4? Under the UNCHR a minor is someone under the age of 18 regardless of what it is in your birth country or the country you reside in!