Oh I should have added - on the back of IICSA I drew up this petition.
Still waiting for Scotgov to get back to me on this. I will update as things become more apparent and I don't want cedars within sniffing distance of it.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4833344146636800/pe1905-public-inquiry-into-response-religious-organisations-allegations-child-sexual-abuse-since-1950
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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@silentlamb_silent_no_more Are you Frozen Willow on Twitter? As we have been on the same topics and I'm from Scotland too.
Shucks, I've been outed.Yes @notsurewheretogo I am.
Recap
Anon in BBC Panorama Suffer the little children.
Met Cedars on this very forum years ago.
Got cyberbullied by cedars in 2016?17 when he released the CSA video critiquing BBC Panorama and the validity of the numbers on the database Watchtower currently holds on paedophiles. Cedars private mailed me to say "Have some empathy for the victims" after I critqued said video he did.
Got blocked by him on facebook meaning I could not even respond to that - Hey I'm responding now - Cedars you wankstain!
Revealed my story to the newspaper in the UK The Daily Record and Sunday Mirror in 2017 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/girl-abused-jehovahs-witness-dad-10370979
Parent who had reinitiated contact with me, decided to shun me again because she has stuck by my father, as has many other family members (not all) but some. I wrote about that here
https://silentlamb2silentnomore.wordpress.com/2018/05/03/after-i-went-public/
Sued Watchtower - can't legally divulge outcome - sorry.
Went through therapy during the year 2017-2018.
Came back stronger, went to college and gained my NC Admin with medical, then HNC admin with medical and I'm currently studying my HND Business Admin (Diploma) Signed up for university this year and have been accepted for my degree.
Not been paying much attention to Cedars or anything really with Watchtower, but kept up to date with the highlights from Mikey and Kim. This Cedars thing has really plauged my mind these past couple of weeks and I worry for his girls, and for the alleged victims.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Seems as though some people are going to a third party (investigator?) to try and just identify the victim because that would blow a hole in his denial there is no "Becky".
They definitely should not do that at all. They need to leave it with the police. As I said previously, the police tracked me down and name dropped a JW who had harmed me. Then pandoras box wa open. He got 7 years (not enough) for what he did to 8 girls, myself included up and down Scottish congregations and into Lancaster in England. Everytime he was caught, he fled to another congregation and the JW's, reappointed him as elder numerous times.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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Every video he uploads to YouTube will become a war zone between folks who want to expose him and his followers (sounds like a cult doesn't it?)
I would not waste my time even clicking into any of his videos Nicolaou. Another viewer means more money for him. Cut the food source. Don't click, don't engage with his videos at all.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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To Jehalapeno
"Many keep saying CONTACT THE AUTHORITIES! WHY HAVEN'T YOU CONTACTED THE AUTHORITIES?We did!
Back in 2017, many of us contacted the British authorities, only to be told "Without a victim, without first-hand knowledge, like his wife, AND the perp fled the country,...NOTHING can be done"
Croatia authorities were contacted, "The crime was committed in Britain, so unless a crime is committed in Croatia, nothing can be done"
That was posted on this thread quite a number of pages ago. These screenshots would have been laughed at in a police station. Because it cannot be verified. Which again, tells me, something else has come out that we are not privvy to. We are privvy to what was shown to the police back then and not what the police have now.
Speculating but maybe they have the victim herself? Maybe she has come forward. Maybe they have a witness to the crime - someone who knows all about him. Maybe they have more than has been shown - who knows?
But what I do know as a CSA survivor is this. The police knocked on my door and mentioned the name "Harry Holt" -
"I know a Charlie Holt, but not a Harry Holt" I told them
"Can we come in, we need to speak to you?" they insisted.
Of course and I had my children removed from my presence because what I was about to discuss had just been unlocked from my brain. The surname 'Holt' brought back painful memories for me. I had hidden those memories in my brain somewhere. Since then, Pandora's box was open.
Harry Holt was imprisoned for 7 years (Shit sentence imo) for abusing EIGHT girls in congregations up and down Scotland and down into Lancaster. DCI John Hogg said "I also hope this case sends a clear message to other abusers that this type of behaviour will not be tolerated and our specially trained officers will work to unravel your crimes and bring you to justice."
So if Lloyd is reading on another pseudonymn account, he better be quaking in his boots if all of these allegations are true. Because the police are very thorough. And Watchtower better be quaking as well, because if they knew about all of this? - OH BOY! -
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Here is something to think about.
These screenshots were handed into the police in 2017. Nothing could be done. So, what has come out that we are not privvy to, in relation to these screenshots that the police now have?
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I hope the police can get to the bottom of it. Trying to work it out is beyond most of us here, unless there are any actual detectives. There are forensic linguists who work with the police to solve cases like this. It’s a very interesting subject and there are all sorts of ingenious techniques they can use to work out identities and the veracity of sources.
So do I. I hope they do extensive police work on this, exhaust all resources to find the truth. You do know that there are hunters out there who hunt and expose these crimes? Team Shades, S.T.S. Newcastle Hunters, STOP Stings, Predator Awareness and many, many, many more groups out there who use decoys. These decoys pretend to be young girls and boys and bait and wait. When someone starts chatting to them, they immediately say, they're, 12, 13, 14 or whatever and see what the person contacting them will do. The chat logs are similar to what we have all seen in this instance with Lloyd. These chat logs and the predator are handed over to the police. They do end up in a UK court, in a UK jail, even if they have not touched a child - the intent was there to do so. In England you can make a citizens arrest but you can't in Scotland. On the basis of this filthy chat you can end up in prison in the UK.
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Nevertheless I wouldn't send this anywhere until you are sure it's true people.
That is for the police to determine. They have this in their possession right now. They will investigate, thouroughly. The evidence that needs to come out is the victim which they will find because they are good at finding victims. I know because they knocked my door and uttered the name of one of my abusers. Instantly, it was like a key. Everything came flooding back.
It is up to the Met to investigate now. If they have evidence that JLE has harmed even one child, then he better have a really good lawyer. -
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Could you give a short summary? I don’t think I want to read it.
I knew he was a nasty piece of work, but I am still really shocked.
Just think, if he had followed Kim’s advice then none of this would have come out. What a colossal idiot. Thank goodness!
To be honest, I could not get past the 3rd page and I can't put a gauge on the anger I feel right now.
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I've read the evidence he supplies and it is sickening...it's damning...this will finish him as an activist.
I was actually sick. Having went through CSA I could not get past the 3rd screenshot.