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Listener asked
Does anyone know what happened to all the money that was donated to AAwA which Lloyd ran?
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He had been given some direct phone numbers and he ended up speaking directly to Tony Morris.
That in itself is suss. He's the only xjw who's managed to speak to a Governing Body member. I recall Apostate Jerky Boy who has phoned Bethel numerous times and never managed to get through to a GB member. I know of other xjw's who have tried getting through to ask them some questions and not had any success - but Lloyd has.
As you quite rightly pointed out, he had an opportunity. He had the opportunity to ask about the CSA database and why they were doing it. He had the opportunity to tell him that all they need to do is apologise, change their policy in line with Romans13 and that would be it.
But no. He targets Ant Mo on his "Tight Pants" ideology instead - which a majority already know, is a stupid claim to make. Ant Mo makes himself look silly with those claims. No need to point it out. The CSA issue does need pointed out and Watchtower need to do better. Get it in writing. When a minor alleges CSA to the elders, call the police. Then call bethel. It's that simple.
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Good question(s) in this video.
Is it a conspiracy to frame a guy or is it real? Either way, we would want to know if Watchtower did a serious cover up of a guy who allegedly harmed children, or if another guy went out of his way to play on our emotions and try to frame someone?
Still erring on the side of caution. Even alleged CSA, I'm staying well clear of it, not clicking his videos or nothing. Thank goodness I was never a patreon either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUnR6kKBCLg
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I am clearly tired. I've just re-read what you wrote ^^^ Ignore last comment.
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So on Kim's interview today, she said that Djiana knows about screenshots
Possibly the same info we all have. Screenshots were made available to the public and I strongly urge you not to read them if you have a weak stomach. It has alleged CSA in it.
The letters? Do you mean from the alleged PIMO elder? I heard that on JW Updates channel. I think Kim is getting the information she has now, from where we got them from. Does not mean to say she knew about it.
Or she did and as legalese knows, you say nothing until after a trial and conviction.
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Simon says - what would you do if your husband was caught living the life he has and was unapologetic about it?
I would kick that loser to the kerb, never to look back.
Story time
When I was 19 I was seeing a guy who was 17 - don't get too excited guys - consenting age in Scotland is 16. Our relationship started, shortly after I had left the cult back in 1999. It lasted four months because I found out he was cheating on me - WITH A THIRTEEN YEAR OLD! - DUMPED him on hte spot! Oh it hurt - badly. And just like back then, not realising I could go to the police about it, I obviously never took it to the police. I did make a statement about it some years later to the police, but unless she came forward, then nothing they could do. She married him - would you believe it?
When you cheat you are breaking trust and it is very difficult to recover from. Just last year I helped a friend go through one of the worst breakups. She seen pictures on her partners computer. Adult pictures of him with his bit on the side for the 9 of 11 years they were together - and other pictures that police have as they seized the computer.
My friend took the children and fled - even though he had moved out and went to live with his bit, she didn't feel safe staying where she was. She was deeply traumatised by it all and still is to some extent. It's been 13 months since that discovery.
So I would kick him to the kerb and never look back.
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@Newly Enlightened
Kim and Mikey.
On your recent video "This Mess Leads Back To Watchtower..." there is a scammer bot on it.
Here is the link to someone exposing this type of scam for your information. Many xjws are vulnerable and open to exploitation.
The scammer bot is going by the name 'Harry Tim'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNXk1q95oP4
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It's like when people are outside court for someone like Bill Cosby, you have to wonder, WTF is wrong with you?! Don't you have any standards?!Absolutely. Even a sniff of alleged CSA on anyone and I would be keeping my distance. These cedarites have crossed a line. The same line incidentally that JW's cross when accusations come out about them covering up CSA - which is 100% true, but they think we're all apostate liars. Same with Cedarites.
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Oh I should have added - on the back of IICSA I drew up this petition.
Still waiting for Scotgov to get back to me on this. I will update as things become more apparent and I don't want cedars within sniffing distance of it.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4833344146636800/pe1905-public-inquiry-into-response-religious-organisations-allegations-child-sexual-abuse-since-1950
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@silentlamb_silent_no_more Are you Frozen Willow on Twitter? As we have been on the same topics and I'm from Scotland too.
Shucks, I've been outed.
Yes @notsurewheretogo I am.
Recap
Anon in BBC Panorama Suffer the little children.
Met Cedars on this very forum years ago.
Got cyberbullied by cedars in 2016?17 when he released the CSA video critiquing BBC Panorama and the validity of the numbers on the database Watchtower currently holds on paedophiles. Cedars private mailed me to say "Have some empathy for the victims" after I critqued said video he did.
Got blocked by him on facebook meaning I could not even respond to that - Hey I'm responding now - Cedars you wankstain!
Revealed my story to the newspaper in the UK The Daily Record and Sunday Mirror in 2017 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/girl-abused-jehovahs-witness-dad-10370979
Parent who had reinitiated contact with me, decided to shun me again because she has stuck by my father, as has many other family members (not all) but some. I wrote about that here
https://silentlamb2silentnomore.wordpress.com/2018/05/03/after-i-went-public/
Sued Watchtower - can't legally divulge outcome - sorry.
Went through therapy during the year 2017-2018.
Came back stronger, went to college and gained my NC Admin with medical, then HNC admin with medical and I'm currently studying my HND Business Admin (Diploma) Signed up for university this year and have been accepted for my degree.
Not been paying much attention to Cedars or anything really with Watchtower, but kept up to date with the highlights from Mikey and Kim. This Cedars thing has really plauged my mind these past couple of weeks and I worry for his girls, and for the alleged victims.
Caught up
