Out of one cult into another. Simon is the worst offender. Just because someone on the left said or did something wrong doesn’t mean the right is automatically correct. It’s all garbage. Go back to science and reasoning and stop encouraging these laundered ideas that claim to be truth cause they sound true.
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I'm now turned off by this site
by purrpurr inin one form or another i've been a member of this site for almost 10 years.
in the past this was a great place for debate, news and support for ex jws.
i logged on several times a day and posted several times a week.
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Chat AI shows Jesus was not god
by enigma1863 intitle: jesus' perception of himself: a nuanced view of equality in a patriarchal society.
introduction:.
the perception of jesus christ's divinity has been a subject of theological debate for centuries.
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Title: Jesus' Perception of Himself: A Nuanced View of Equality in a Patriarchal Society
Introduction:
The perception of Jesus Christ's divinity has been a subject of theological debate for centuries. One argument that arises pertains to Jesus' self-perception and whether he considered himself equal to God. This article aims to explore the idea that Jesus, in the context of the patriarchal society in which he lived, did not view himself as equal to God, drawing upon the notion that in such a society, a father holds a greater position than a son, while brothers are considered equal.
Understanding the Historical Context:
To comprehend Jesus' self-perception, it is crucial to consider the cultural and societal norms of the time. The patriarchal structure prevalent in ancient Judea assigned distinct roles and hierarchies, where fathers held authority and prominence. This framework serves as a backdrop to examine Jesus' relationship with God and his understanding of his own divinity.
The Father-Son Analogy:
In various biblical references, Jesus frequently used the metaphor of a father-son relationship to describe his connection with God. In a patriarchal society, the father figure is inherently seen as greater than the son. This metaphorical language implies a hierarchy, suggesting that Jesus perceived himself as subordinate to God the Father.
John 14:28 - "You heard me say, 'I am going away, and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I."
This verse exemplifies Jesus' acknowledgement of the Father's superiority. By stating that the Father is greater than him, Jesus reveals an understanding of his subordinate role in the divine hierarchy.
Sibling Equality:
In contrast to the father-son relationship, the biblical narrative also emphasizes equality among siblings. Jesus is described as the "firstborn among many brothers" (Romans 8:29), implying an equal status with believers. This equality, when juxtaposed with the hierarchical understanding of the father-son relationship, supports the idea that Jesus did not perceive himself as equal to God.
Implications for Understanding Jesus' Divinity:
Interpreting Jesus' self-perception as not equal to God does not negate his divinity. Rather, it acknowledges the complexity of his understanding within the societal and cultural norms of his time. Jesus' unique role as the Son of God was characterized by both subordination to the Father and equality with fellow believers, emphasizing different aspects of his divine nature in various contexts.
Conclusion:
In the patriarchal society in which Jesus lived, where the father was deemed greater than the son, Jesus' self-perception can be understood through the lens of this cultural framework. His usage of the father-son analogy suggests a recognition of his subordinate position to God the Father. Simultaneously, the notion of sibling equality among believers emphasizes a different aspect of his divine nature. By exploring Jesus' self-perception within this historical context, we gain a nuanced understanding of his relationship with God and his divinity.
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Sparlock 3d Printer
by enigma1863 inso i have access to a 3d printer for a short time and i want to print out a 3d sparlock i don't have time to design my own.
does anyone know if there is a stl or any 3d files available to print out a sparlock?
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Planning for the future: Funerals
by enigma1863 inmy dad is now the only jw in my family.
i am technically inactive.
i am concerned about when he dies.
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One of My greatest fears happened last year. He passed away from Covid. The funeral was ok, very small. Most people didn’t show up which was sad. Some blamed it on Jw Covid protocols.
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Depends on what the meaning of the words"Last Days" is
by enigma1863 indo the jws still say "we are in the last of the last days" ?
i don't even know what that means any more.
they will say the end is coming soon but according to their god a day isn't a day.
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I have now come to realize that no book of fiction has contradictions. They just have figurative poetic language. We just didn’t fully understand the details authors story.
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Waze app for JWs
by enigma1863 ini don't know how many of you have used the waze app.
it's a useful navigation app that alerts you to police and construction zones in route.
a lot of people use it to keep from getting a ticket.. i thought it would be funny to have one that alerts you to jws in neighborhood..
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ReResurrection😅
You don’t need gps tracking devices. Just enough people willing to report them on the apps. You could probably get JWs to report themselves. I know they do in some neighborhoods to alert the police of their presence.
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Details of Noah’s Ark
by enigma1863 injw magazines have claimed the flood story has so much detail that it couldn’t be just a made up story.. is it detailed?
name one person outside of noah’s family.
name one nephilim.
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I would love to see a Christian reality show where they would take a much larger cruise ship with a lot less zoo animals and watch them fail miserably trying to maintain a full year in the middle of the ocean without any contact with the outside world.
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Details of Noah’s Ark
by enigma1863 injw magazines have claimed the flood story has so much detail that it couldn’t be just a made up story.. is it detailed?
name one person outside of noah’s family.
name one nephilim.
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Great point Blondie…
also what is gopher wood? Is it some magical extinct wood?
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Details of Noah’s Ark
by enigma1863 injw magazines have claimed the flood story has so much detail that it couldn’t be just a made up story.. is it detailed?
name one person outside of noah’s family.
name one nephilim.
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JW magazines have claimed the flood story has so much detail that it couldn’t be just a made up story.
Is it detailed? Is it a fable/fairytale/myth
- Name one person outside of Noah’s family
- Name one Nephilim. Give some detail, how did they know they were mighty men? We’re they giants?
- How many animals were on the ark
- Besides the materials of gopher wood and pitch what did Noah use
- How many compartments were in the ark?
- How big was each room?
- If I have a carpenter a blue print for a house and only gave the dimensions and materials would he really praise me on the details?
- Did Noah use traps to catch the animals? Did he build cages?
- Did the ark have ladders or stairs?
- Did they use ropes and pulleys
- How did they see inside with one window? lamp oils?candles?
- There is more detail in the ark of the covenant than the ark of Noah.
- Only three chapters on Noah. Three small verses describing the ark and its construction.
- Exedus 37 9 verses building the ark of the covenant with an additional 20 for the table lamps and incense.
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If death is the result of sin, why do animals die?
by Orgull inmy first week of posts here were very serious and all the wonderful, encouraging replies helped me very much.. so now i want to ask something semi-frivolous.
(actually it's one of the many things that don't make sense to me about "the truth").
why do animals die?.
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You’d think god would have killed Adam and Eve a little sooner. Able dying before they did kinda reveals the injustice. I mean Cain isn’t even threatened with death.