Tally The Debunker,
I would be remiss in not acknowledging my appreciation for your kompliance in the unveiling of the Fraud that is...
riz
first the 1880 teaching:-.
"the seventh trumpet .. reaches to 1914.. christ entered upon the official work of king in 1878.. but what becomes of the idea of those who now oppose us in these things, that christ does not come into possession of his crown, until after this day of wrath?
will they not be compelled to admit for consistency's sake that the harvest and the treading of the winepress must be located away beyond 1914?
Tally The Debunker,
I would be remiss in not acknowledging my appreciation for your kompliance in the unveiling of the Fraud that is...
riz
things have gotten desperate in the us for the borg.
they lowered the hours required by the pioneers to 70 and there was this little surge in the number of pioneers and yet there was a negative "increase" in this country.
so...desperate times call for desperate measures.
dubs,
:Imadeadun...
LOL. You kill me sometimes. Love your work.
riz
first the 1880 teaching:-.
"the seventh trumpet .. reaches to 1914.. christ entered upon the official work of king in 1878.. but what becomes of the idea of those who now oppose us in these things, that christ does not come into possession of his crown, until after this day of wrath?
will they not be compelled to admit for consistency's sake that the harvest and the treading of the winepress must be located away beyond 1914?
Focus The Exposer,
I will be so reckless as to take the ground that you are to be commended. Your diligent efforts in unmasking the charlatans is greatly appreciated.
riz
i hope this is a friendly place, because i could sure use some friends.
this is my first try at posting on a discussion board, though i have been lurking here and at a few others on the same subject for a few weeks now.
about 4 weeks ago i took the plunge and decided to see just what all the mystery and danger of reading "apostate" material was all about.
truman,
please don't think that you are evil. you are certainly not evil. the wt would like you to think that, of course, but rest assured it is not true. you are simply an honest hearted one who can't go on believing the lies that you have been taught. trust me, i have been there and i know what it's like to have a conscience that is racked with guilt. but that is how they try to control you, by indoctrinating you with guilt and fear tactics. once you know in your heart that you are a good person, and you don't need an organization to be close to god, (if you choose to believe in god), your fear will subside and you will begin to think more clearly. you will begin to form your own conclusions and that is so very liberating. and it's not wrong, either. it takes time. lots of time. but the outcome is priceless. please don't let them suck you back in. you've come a long way already. we are all here for you. you may email me if you wish. i am a good listener. take care, truman.
riz
to all those who have in some way left the organization (be it disfellowshipping, disassociating, dis-whatever):.
come now, i know the amount of people who "realized that wt doctrine was in serious error" and politely handed in their letter of resignation has to be very small.
the level of bitterness and hostility towards the closest-to-what's-biblical organization has to develop some other way.. what did you do?
still,
:and if that makes me a loser... YEAH! A LOSER I AM!
so we agree. little word of advise... don't come in here attacking or assuming. you will leave with your tail between your legs.
riz
to all those who have in some way left the organization (be it disfellowshipping, disassociating, dis-whatever):.
come now, i know the amount of people who "realized that wt doctrine was in serious error" and politely handed in their letter of resignation has to be very small.
the level of bitterness and hostility towards the closest-to-what's-biblical organization has to develop some other way.. what did you do?
still,
:Thought it would be kEWL to support a system that's based entirely on greed and the misfortune of losers?
that's the main reason why i LEFT the borg. the other reason i left is because of self righteous buttholes such as yourself.
riz
i just registered just today.
i am not a dissenter from jws--still an active member but i have an open mind and willing to listen to all who post here.
there have been some questions bugging me lately that have caused me to wonder about certain scriptures pertaining to being "born again.
dedalus,
i'm loving your posts... please keep them coming. heehee
riz
this is my first post in any network such as this.
i have been "lurking" around the "apostate" sites for the last year or so.
i am glad i have!
30years, mole, all other new ones,
Welcome aboard! I am looking forward to hearing more from all of you. Don't be afraid to speak up. This isn't the kingdom hall.
I am proud to be a part of this happy "family" and I hope you all stick around to enjoy the benefits of experience and wisdom that all of the people on this forum contribute.
riz
my dad asked the co about this one.
mat 27:52-53. and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, .
and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
welcome to the board, dmouse!
thank you for posting those funny stories. i hope to hear much more from you in the future.
riz
(still chuckling)
how many jw do you think are on the same ship?
the captain on the titanic told everyone to abandon ship,watctower leaders tell ones to remain loyal to the end never abandon the org, just how many see it sinking, you see the the unhappy looks on their faces on train stations, street coners, even going and coming out of their meetings, the zeal is gone.
one guess that reading so many posts of ones leaving, who wants to sit on a sinking and tilting ship, it makes one a bit sick in the tummy.
nojw,
i think they should make that wretched celine dion song "my heart will go on" into a kingdom melody. rather appropriate, i believe.
on stable ground,
riz