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  in honor of the simpsons

  by dark clouds in

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  this thread was inspired by all the brujaja superstitons of the borg so in honor and defense of the simpsons to which i video tape on a daily basis i start this thread in the name of fun :.

  post your favorite simpson qoute along with the character who said it.

  .. "i've noticed your house smells like feces, not just monkey feces either"--- homer

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  RunningMan

  "I know Ned, no foot longs. They make you uncomfortable." - Mrs. Flanders
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  Hmmmm

  by openminded in

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  i am reviewing my notes for a psych.

  exam and am going over the syptoms of mental illness and schizophrenia in particular.

  i am noticing something that may be well known to most of you educated folks.. symptom 1. delusions of grandour(god has me on his speed dial)(miracle wheat).

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  RunningMan

  Here's another one that I noticed while browsing through a psychology textbook.

  When businesses and government are screening people for sensitive positions, they
  ask questions to determine the person's stability. One of the questions commonly
  asked is, "Do you believe that there is only one true religion?"

  Apparently, a positive answer indicates that a person is inclined toward instability.
  ie. Don't give them the keys to the bomb.
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  For Randy Watters/Freeminds.org...

  by sf in

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  hi randy, .

  how ya doing?

  hope you are feeling well these days.. i just checked in to your homepage, as i do every single day to stay up-to-date and caught the new net soup menu re: why so manyy wts pages and/or related pages that are harder to access via net.. i spend a great deal of my time providing man urls to sites where i know they will be seen and booked.

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  RunningMan

  Here's an interesting piece of logic for you:

  If the society says that the presence of cyber-
  terrorists is a reason to avoid the cyber system,
  then the existance of eco-terrorists is a reason
  to avoid the eco system.

  I think the society should avoid the eco system.
  They are already a questionable part of the
  bio system.
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  Privacy legislation - let's make some trouble

  by RunningMan in

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  as of january 1, 2001, canada has new privacy legislation (bill c-6).. similar legislation has been adopted in the u.s., although i am not.

  familiar with it.

  some highlights that could pose problems for the society.

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  RunningMan

  I would just like to add one comment regarding charities,
  religious organizations, and non-profit organizations. I work
  for a non profit organization, and we have just spent a
  considerable amount of work on complying with the privacy
  legislation. All of our member communications must now
  include a privacy statement and provide an option to
  opt our of future mailings. We also have appointed
  a privacy officer, and will make any records available
  to individuals on request. The privacy statement also
  appears in our magazine, at least annually.

  At the current time, the legislation applies to finanicial
  institutions, and any organization that shares information
  accross provincial lines. It will likely be extended further
  in coming years. I am not aware of any exemptions.
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  Privacy legislation - let's make some trouble

  by RunningMan in

  1. jw
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  as of january 1, 2001, canada has new privacy legislation (bill c-6).. similar legislation has been adopted in the u.s., although i am not.

  familiar with it.

  some highlights that could pose problems for the society.

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  RunningMan

  As of January 1, 2001, Canada has new privacy legislation (Bill C-6).
  Similar legislation has been adopted in the U.S., although I am not
  familiar with it. Some highlights that could pose problems for the society
  include:

  Consent: The knowledge and consent of the individual are required
  for the collection, use or disclosure of personal information.

  Individual access: Upon request, an individual shall be informed
  of the existance,use and disclosure of his or her personal
  information and shall be given access to that information.

  There are also limitations on the use, disclosure and retention of
  personal information.

  The act also provides the federal privacy commissioner with
  extended powers to investigate and publicize complaints.

  The Society is clearly offside on this legislation. They keep
  house to house records, maps, not at home lists, and RV
  lists - all without disclosing to persons that this information
  is retained, or obtaining their consent.

  I would love to lodge a complaint with the federal
  privacy commissioner, but unfortunately, I am still an
  active JW. Would someone like to lodge this complaint
  in Canada? I could assist in some ways.

  Our U.S. friends will probably find the same situation.
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  WTS publications and words counting....

  by MacHislopp in

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  i have notice a certain interest in .

  words statistic and i would like to share with you .

  ***from the cd-room 1999. faith.

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  RunningMan

  Here is another statistic for you:

  If the Society has been publishing one magazine of 32 pages, four times
  per month since 1879 (which I know is a bit overstated), and one 192 page
  book per year, and two 32 page booklets per year, they will have printed
  218,624 different pages of information. This doesn't count tracts, or
  reference books like indexes, concordances, etc.

  This is approximately 160 times more information than is found in the Bible.

  So, for an organization that claims to base everything they do on the Bible,
  they have obviously gone considerably beyond it. So far beyond it, in fact,
  that it can barely be seen.
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  Does D to D work reduce converts?

  by RunningMan in

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  i have a theory that i would like to bounce off some of you.. jw's are undoubtedly the most aggressive recruiting organization.

  in the world.

  they spend over 1 billion hours per year going door.

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  RunningMan

  I have a theory that I would like to bounce off some of you.

  JW's are undoubtedly the most aggressive recruiting organization
  in the world. They spend over 1 Billion hours per year going door
  to door.

  However, other religions that do not go door to door are actually
  more successful in gaining recruits. For example, the Seventh
  Day Adventists, whose doctrines are every bit as goofy as JW's,
  and who started around the same time, number around 11 million.
  Scientologists, who started only 40 years ago, number around
  8 million.

  The door to door work is obviously no more effective than other,
  more conventional media. Besides, most JW converts these days
  come from inside the organization. I would say that 80-90% of
  baptisms originate with reproduction, not with return visits.

  Here's my theory: The prospect of forced door to door recruiting
  actually scares away more potential converts than it gains.

  What do you think?
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  Did you burn the sacred documents?

  by LovesDubs in

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  ...or did you shred the shit out of em so even the garbage man wouldnt become accidentally sucked into this cult like i did?

  during the time i read crisis of conscience i went into a two week long rage.

  i was angry all the time for being duped and i hated every witness on the planet, mostly for being as stupid as i was, and the upper echelon at the society...i just wanted to castrate them.

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  RunningMan

  An interesting and very vivid account, luvsdubs. But personally, I don't agree with the approach.
  What you did was undoubtedly theraputic, but I consider it to be destruction of evidence. The
  Society would like nothing better than to gather up all of the incriminating old material that they
  printed over the past 120 years and destroy it, leaving only the present truth.

  I will keep my JW library, all 9 shelves of it. As each year passes, it becomes more embarrasing for
  them.
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  Elders/former Elders, help with this?

  by wasasister in

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  actually, i don't care if you ever were an elder if you can find the appropriate reference in the wt for the following situation:.

  with all the discussion lately about the need for "two witnesses" to make an accusation valid, i've been thinking about divorce (and ultimately, remarriage) on the grounds of adultery.

  in most cases, an adulterous mate does not commit the deed in public.

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  RunningMan

  This policy had some very interesting ramifications.

  A relative of mine broke up with her husband. (Actually it was the husband who was
  the relative). He left and took up residence with a string of women, never bothering
  to get married. Anyway, 15 years pass, and the woman wants to get married.
  Unfortunately, her husband, although disfellowshipped, has never acknowledged
  any adultery. He was disfellowshipped for other sins. She, therefore, was not scripturally
  divorced, even though she was legally divorced for years.

  In order to prove adultery, an elder had to phone the husband, and ask him if he
  was indeed sleeping with the woman that he was living with. After he finished laughing,
  he hung up. So - still no scriptural divorce.

  Eventually, after several months of grief, the elders decided that, because his
  commonlaw arrangement was acknowledged by the community, it could be assumed
  that they were indeed having sex. She then got the divorce and remarried.

  Strange, but true - every word of it.
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  Special assembly day

  by comment in

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  i attended a local special assembly day yesterday.

  didn't seem like too much had changed overall.

  however, i've got some questions.. 1) when did the society decide to revert to allowing witnesses to study more than one book with their bible studies?

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  RunningMan

  I suspect that someone in Bethel discovered a stack of old publications,
  and realized that there was no way to get rid of them under the new (old)
  policy.

  Actually, this is yet another example of WTS inconsistencies. I'm not sure if
  this was local, or if it was official policy, but does anyone remember the
  prohibition on saying "John the Baptist". For several years, they used the
  phrase "John the Baptiser". Then, apparently someone realized how patently
  stupid they were being, and simply started putting it back in.

  Another example was the phrase "Jehovah's plan". It was explained that with Jehovah,
  everything is absolute. He never "plans", because that implies uncertainty. They used
  the word "purpose". That change, too, has simply gone away.

  My guess is that the one-publication study schedule was unworkable in the absence
  of throngs of willing studies, so it was just quietly forgotten.