Posts by konceptual99

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Explosion on London Train

by cofty in

there was an explosion on a london tube train at parsons green station at 8:20 bst this morning.. there are pictures online of a plastic bucket that seems to be the source.

witnesses are reporting seeing a large wall of flames coming through a packed train carriage.

people are now being taken to ambulances with significant burns..

konceptual99

Well, the suspects shouldn't get any pay outs. Some can be released and monitored, maybe, but no pay outs.

Too late fella - it's already happened....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/22/17-british-guantanamo-detainees-20m-compensation-fund-now/

I get the difference between what happened in Ireland with the fundamental Islamist problem, I just question the long term realities of lancing the boil with yet more violence and preemptive "justice". I can't argue with the fact that certainly it would stop terror attacks happening in the short term plus the idea of pushing the problem back to it's geographic source and regaining our peace of mind is certainly attractive, it's just you are dealing with an ideology, a mental conditioning that can only be changed if the bottom up mindset changes. That's where the wider Muslim community comes in but we are looking at decades, if not centuries, before the majority of Muslims globally are close to where the secular population is.

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Explosion on London Train

by cofty in

there was an explosion on a london tube train at parsons green station at 8:20 bst this morning.. there are pictures online of a plastic bucket that seems to be the source.

witnesses are reporting seeing a large wall of flames coming through a packed train carriage.

people are now being taken to ambulances with significant burns..

konceptual99

Lock up all the suspects on their 'terror list' and any outspoken sympathisers. Anyone who lives in the UK and calls for terrorist attacks on UK soil should also be rounded up and locked up.

I don't entirely disagree with you however the US did this with Guantanamo Bay with little impact on Islamic terrorism. Worse still was the fact that some known jihadists came out with big payouts for their treatment there.

Internment without charge happened in Northern Ireland as well yet did not stop the terror. What did work was the people on both sides getting fed up with the violent minority and calling them out. So called moderate Muslims need to grab this problem by the balls and weed out the extremists from within and build a secular majority. But as you already rightfully point out they are not going to do this. The number of secular Muslims is tiny thanks to the religion being so backwards.

On a side note, this is a really interesting interview where a former CIA interrogator is clear about the benefit of what happened in Guantanamo.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04xtpwr

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RUSSIA - September 2017 - Jehovah's Witnesses appeal extremist label and Supreme Court decision

by jwleaks in

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jehovah's witnesses appeal russian decision on declaring them extremist organization.

https://jw-russia.org/news/17091115-214.html.

[40 page court argument with 166 points.].

konceptual99

I have never supported the ban as I think it is symptomatic of a wider problem with the suppression of free speech and progressive values by the Russian government. We all know that the WTS has some nasty teachings but most followers are harmless and now are facing persecution and problems in everyday life due to state sponsored discrimination.

The same is happening with many other minorities and in decrying one injustice you have to look at them all.

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Explosion on London Train

by cofty in

there was an explosion on a london tube train at parsons green station at 8:20 bst this morning.. there are pictures online of a plastic bucket that seems to be the source.

witnesses are reporting seeing a large wall of flames coming through a packed train carriage.

people are now being taken to ambulances with significant burns..

konceptual99

What Sadiq Khan actually said was that part and parcel of living in a great global city is being prepared for these things. He wasn't passing it off as something to dismiss or resign ourselves to, rather as a danger residents and visitors need to be cognisant of.

The fact is that until Islamists join the rest of progressive and secular society there will be extremists who look to take advantage of a free and open society to perpetrate this type of crime. I don't ignore it when I travel in London just as I don't ignore risks of other crimes like robbery.

Awareness is not the same as acceptance.

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We don't take collections like other religions do...

by Alfred in

i think this screen shot says it all... need i say more?.

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konceptual99

So you can donate your loyalty points to the org. That will do the GB nicely next time they need a 5* hotel room.

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"The purpose of reporting field service time is for encouragement"

by HereIgo in

i was told this when i was an aspiring jw, aka unbaptized publisher.

the above explanation didn't make sense to me then and it never did make sense throughout my jw career.

over time, it appeared to me the real purpose of field service time reporting was to gauge one's spirituality and for the ceo *cough* co to make sure the elders were on top of things during his visit..

konceptual99

The purpose of the field ministry and reporting it is whatever it needs to be to justify any one of a long list of cult control mechanisms.

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My Story

by Lee Elder in

this is the first of a multi-part article that tells my story, and how ajwrb got started.. https://www.openmindsfoundation.org/saving-thousand-lives-year-reform-watchtowers-policy-blood-transfusions-part-one/.

konceptual99

Always thought it was strange the way the WT talks about blood and conscience, and the need for the doctors to respect it. At the same time, very few of the friends understand all of the various blood products that are permitted. They will frequently say no until an HLC member comes along and says, "its ok - the WT says so". Then of course they routinely accept it.

This ^^ * 100. It's a complete and utter nonsense. Conscience means that a Witness should be free to choose their treatment without sanction yet nothing could be further from the truth.

P.S. Lee - did you have a point 1 in the above list?

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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

by mrmagic in

due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!

konceptual99

Maybe, but wt can do whatever they legally like with their property same like everyone else can too.

This is true and I respect anyone's right, including the WTS, to protect their copyrighted material however we all know that it's a hammer to crack a nut. It says everything that the WTS, a global corporation with a reach into the lives of millions of people chooses to spend some of their vast resources in trying to stop a couple of home brew, amateur activists from using some of their publicly available content just because they can.

One may say "two wrongs don't make a right" but no one has actually proven a wrong has been committed. The WTS takes this path because it's easy for them and youtube is never going to question it.

It's petty bully boy tactics and will never stop the WTS being hoist on the petard of their own words in the long run.

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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

by mrmagic in

due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!

konceptual99

Thanks for the info David - it is indeed a highly subjective and grey area.

With that in mind I suspect that youtube rarely take the time and trouble to investigate the rights and wrongs of a copyright infringement claim, resorting to a path of least resistance in favour of the complainant.

The irony is that the WTS has a history of quoting out of context yet are highly sensitive when detractors present arguments backed up with source material in full context.

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Help! Mike & Kim videos all being deleted by Youtube

by mrmagic in

due to watchtower flagging the mike & kim videos on youtube for copyright, youtube is giving them 6 days before they are shutting down their entire youtube channel.

can you help with a mass downloading program and then reuploading them on a mirror ?

would hate to lose all those good videos!

konceptual99

@F

I agree any party has the right to protect their copyright however there is also an element of fair use for certain purposes. I don't know what M&K use and how much nor do I know the details of copyright v fair use however I don't think anyone is claiming that M&K (or most other anti-JW sites) is using material out of context or in a way that seeks to claim the WT's work as their own.

The WTS is not protecting it's copyright, it's using strong arm tactics to silence criticism where the proof is right there from their own publications and digital content.