Posts by Healthworker

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Pursuing higher education is comparable with having OCD - according to Gerrit Losch

by cedars in

after i posted my last "getting to know you" video where gerrit losch explains his "unique" views on armageddon, a couple of posters mentioned that other similarly controversial comments had been made by gerrit concerning higher education.. well, these comments were actually made in the same recording as the one i used in making the "armageddon" video, so i thought i should make the second video focussing on these.. here it is.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b7drwti-h4.

i realize many heavily indoctrinated publishers will try to defend these remarks by saying that, if it isn't in the society's publications, then gerrit losch's personal opinion is of no particular consequence.

however, the bible says that "out of the heart's abundance the mouth speaks", so by making these videos i hope i am at least showing people what is in the hearts of the men who lead us, and who claim to act as the mouthpiece of the slave class.. .

Healthworker

Simon

You write: "Still entirely asinine but its not showing disrespect to OCD"

Some may think he does! First of all, he has no Biblical support for his view. Second of all, there is similarities between higher education and shooting oneself in the head. Third point: To use this poor person with OCD trying to commit suicide, as an illustration to warn against higher education, is unloving and showing disrespect towards this patient group.

How many of my brothers were struggling with panic attacks, OCD, general suffering of fear when he held that speach in Norway (he said the same thing here 2012)? How many dropped going to school this autumn because of fear of being killed spiritually! How many got twisted thoughts of getting a gun, trying this stunt!

Final point made: It's not okay to sacrifice our youth's future and lives, to sustain a doctrine that has no backing from God. Which is unhealthy, black-and-white, which disregards the true gospel of Jesus! That he gave his life for us, so that we should love each other, respect one another, take care of our families, our babies, father and mother, the old and the sick! This video exposes his true spirit, the man for what he is!

Love from your brother, Healthworker

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Pursuing higher education is comparable with having OCD - according to Gerrit Losch

by cedars in

after i posted my last "getting to know you" video where gerrit losch explains his "unique" views on armageddon, a couple of posters mentioned that other similarly controversial comments had been made by gerrit concerning higher education.. well, these comments were actually made in the same recording as the one i used in making the "armageddon" video, so i thought i should make the second video focussing on these.. here it is.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b7drwti-h4.

i realize many heavily indoctrinated publishers will try to defend these remarks by saying that, if it isn't in the society's publications, then gerrit losch's personal opinion is of no particular consequence.

however, the bible says that "out of the heart's abundance the mouth speaks", so by making these videos i hope i am at least showing people what is in the hearts of the men who lead us, and who claim to act as the mouthpiece of the slave class.. .

Healthworker

Amen Quendi!

Love Healthy

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My video recorded apostasy trial is now live

by RayPublisher in

part 3 (which is where the actual meeting begins) is finished.

it took my computer hours and hours to render and upload it!!

anyway, this is what i just posted on my youtube channel:.

Healthworker

Thanks, looking forward to seeing that NOW:=)

Love Healthworker

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Pursuing higher education is comparable with having OCD - according to Gerrit Losch

by cedars in

after i posted my last "getting to know you" video where gerrit losch explains his "unique" views on armageddon, a couple of posters mentioned that other similarly controversial comments had been made by gerrit concerning higher education.. well, these comments were actually made in the same recording as the one i used in making the "armageddon" video, so i thought i should make the second video focussing on these.. here it is.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b7drwti-h4.

i realize many heavily indoctrinated publishers will try to defend these remarks by saying that, if it isn't in the society's publications, then gerrit losch's personal opinion is of no particular consequence.

however, the bible says that "out of the heart's abundance the mouth speaks", so by making these videos i hope i am at least showing people what is in the hearts of the men who lead us, and who claim to act as the mouthpiece of the slave class.. .

Healthworker

Most brohers were offended by his speach. We are an educated people. Women here work. We send our children to kindergarden. We go to college.

We did not like what we heard. BUT, most brothers would drop this as a hot potato. They are trained to close their eyes and forget all sides that creates cognitive dissonance. Heck, they would rather go and get drunk before they dare to question the society! I spoke with an elder about this (one of many) and said I would do something about it. Make reform, that the GB needed help. He just got angry and said that I was way out and that the GB have the HOLY SPIRIT. What? It's their life insurance! Kill to live!

Love Healthworker

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Pursuing higher education is comparable with having OCD - according to Gerrit Losch

by cedars in

after i posted my last "getting to know you" video where gerrit losch explains his "unique" views on armageddon, a couple of posters mentioned that other similarly controversial comments had been made by gerrit concerning higher education.. well, these comments were actually made in the same recording as the one i used in making the "armageddon" video, so i thought i should make the second video focussing on these.. here it is.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b7drwti-h4.

i realize many heavily indoctrinated publishers will try to defend these remarks by saying that, if it isn't in the society's publications, then gerrit losch's personal opinion is of no particular consequence.

however, the bible says that "out of the heart's abundance the mouth speaks", so by making these videos i hope i am at least showing people what is in the hearts of the men who lead us, and who claim to act as the mouthpiece of the slave class.. .

Healthworker

Hoser:

"he has some nerve to tell others that they are materialistic by getting an education"

Yup, and he had some nerve comming to Norway telling the whole country this story not long ago, then selling of our property. Next time we will issue an arrest warrenty for him and send him to court for hate speach!

Love bro Healthworker

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Pursuing higher education is comparable with having OCD - according to Gerrit Losch

by cedars in

after i posted my last "getting to know you" video where gerrit losch explains his "unique" views on armageddon, a couple of posters mentioned that other similarly controversial comments had been made by gerrit concerning higher education.. well, these comments were actually made in the same recording as the one i used in making the "armageddon" video, so i thought i should make the second video focussing on these.. here it is.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b7drwti-h4.

i realize many heavily indoctrinated publishers will try to defend these remarks by saying that, if it isn't in the society's publications, then gerrit losch's personal opinion is of no particular consequence.

however, the bible says that "out of the heart's abundance the mouth speaks", so by making these videos i hope i am at least showing people what is in the hearts of the men who lead us, and who claim to act as the mouthpiece of the slave class.. .

Healthworker

Cedars!

Very informative part about OCD in the vid. That puts his illustration in a perspective, showing the genuin lack of basic medical knowledge, aswell as poor Bible understanding. Paul warned about getting to hyped up about the BIG A in 2 Th 2:2 and he gave them counsel because they stopped working, 2 Th 3:10-14. Even Jesus warned about that in Luk 21:8.

So what is his agenda?

Thanks again!

Love bro, Healthworker

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Pursuing higher education is comparable with having OCD - according to Gerrit Losch

by cedars in

after i posted my last "getting to know you" video where gerrit losch explains his "unique" views on armageddon, a couple of posters mentioned that other similarly controversial comments had been made by gerrit concerning higher education.. well, these comments were actually made in the same recording as the one i used in making the "armageddon" video, so i thought i should make the second video focussing on these.. here it is.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b7drwti-h4.

i realize many heavily indoctrinated publishers will try to defend these remarks by saying that, if it isn't in the society's publications, then gerrit losch's personal opinion is of no particular consequence.

however, the bible says that "out of the heart's abundance the mouth speaks", so by making these videos i hope i am at least showing people what is in the hearts of the men who lead us, and who claim to act as the mouthpiece of the slave class.. .

Healthworker

Second Masterpiece!

Thanks Cedars!

Love bro Healthworker

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How old does someone have to get, to gain immunity for blood-guilt for being a part of JWs?

by King Solomon in

threads arise were elderly jw's are discussed, and we see thoughts that it's ok to be a jw if it makes them happy, or that it would be cruel to tell them ttatt after having spent their entire lives as a jw.. on the flip-side, other threads discuss teens who commit suicide after their immediate families (including their own grand-parents) shun them, as does everyone else in their kh.

the outrage rises to the point where the tendency is to accuse anyone who's a part of the organization of sharing in the blood-guilt.

that actually makes sense to me: jws claim that even being a cook in the military violates the neutrality principle, since it frees up someone else to carry a weapon; hence being a member of the military in any capacity is sharing in the blood-guilt.

Healthworker

King Solomon

What is the cut-off age after which someone doesn't share in the guilt of the Society and they earn immunity, a "free pass"? Is it 40? 60? 80? How old do they have to be to not be held responsible for the "crimes" they shared in as a member of this cult?

Don't think there's a cut-off age! If you teach the young to skip education, prospone having kid until the new order and live from day to day only "trusting" in God, then you definitely should be corrected now matter how old you are. It's not okay to sacrifice the lives of our youth in order to keep the illusion alive among the elderly.

Let's face the facts though! There are some good christians inside jw that see through the wts doctrine, caught up in a system! Also, there are some ignorant, happy, old-timers who are understanding and balanced not imposing the secterian teachings on the young (including the false blood doctrine). They may live their dream in peace. But for all others; they should most certainly be corrected. There's no excuse for people putting watchtower ideology above the simple and christian gospel of Jesus.

Love from your brother, Healthworker

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Can someone please explain why I'm NOT DF'd yet???

by Calebs Airplane in

i have been sending one "apostate" email after another to an elder in my congo (who frequently does circuit and district convention parts) and i'm still not df'd.... i've even sent him a free pdf copy of "crisis of conscience" twice in the last 3 months (sorry cynthia franz), as well as emails about the whole spectrum of bullshit (607, 144k, 1935, blood, proof of lies, false predictions, etc...).

he vary rarely responds but i know he's reading them because he said so in a recent google chat.... he even acknowledged that the wt got 607 wrong but then says that i should look at the positives and stop finding fault.... but still... i sent some really strong gb-bashing emails and i'n not df'd.... i mean seriously, i've pushed the envelope as far as i possibly can.. what the hell is going on???

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Healthworker

Calebs Airplane

I have been sending one "apostate" email after another to an elder in my congo (who frequently does Circuit and District Convention parts) and I'm still NOT DF'd.

Well, as long as you not make division in th congo, they cannot DF you, based upon some emails. He may arrange for a 2 witness meeting, that may lead to a JC, if you don't answer correct. But your are suppose to get help if your faith is weak. This elder may also see some of your points, as you mentioned. So, he would probably not do much, until you start sending email to several brothers in the congo and the matter becomes public.

You may evaluate your situation and reason over your next steps. How would you benefit from being DF? If you want to reach some of your friends with your new knowledge, then maybe you should relax a little, be patient and build trust. Besides you have false doctrines in all religions, so what are you aiming at. Some are better off not knowing TTATT. Others may profit from learning more about certain issues, in order to make their own descions according to their own conscience! This may include information about medical issues.

Good luck brother!

Love from brother Healthworker

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Billions of dead, possibly killed by divine radiation, all of whom will need to be buried... Gerrit Losch predicts the future!

by cedars in

i've finally turned my attentions away from anthony morris iii (just for the time being!

) and done a video about another governing body member... gerrit losch.. in this video, taken from a 2008 talk (given in sydney, australia), gerrit gives us his grim predictions for the future.... .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4bl_hzhjzm.

Healthworker

I wonder what the "cut off score" is for apostacy for Mr Gerrit Lôsch!

How far can he go, before they set him up for a JC!

Love from bro, Healthworker