Just saw this post and wish I saw it long ago. My wife is a true believer and I have no use for it. I don't believe there is a liberal jw. You are in or you are not. My belief is that it has destroyed our marriage. The fights about the kids doing normal activities or going to meetings created too much conflict. My hope is one day she will wake up and see that it is nonsense but it seems to be a one in a million shot. Unfortunately when she was prostelyzed 15 years ago I was ignorant of the wt ways and stupid and naive. It was never for me as I never was a religious person and probably never will be. The pioneers are sneaky crafty bunch who really have no conscience about what they could do to a family. My opinion is that very few families can withstand the stress of a divided family in terms of jw/any other religion. The jw's are too invested in their brainwashing. It is disgusting that religion comes first and family is second. Zana I know this post is a couple years old but I hope things are going well for you. Unfortunately this has not been my experience. My advice to anybody who's spouse receives a visit from a jw while you are at work providing for your family is to do everything in your power to nip it in the bud. It might cause a small conflict because you will hear how they are "so nice". But believe me when I say it will save a lot of suffering. Thanks for letting me vent.